I've had the X 52 pro and loved it, was convinced to buy the Cougar and at first it was awesome! But poor quality parts made it crap in about 2 years or less. Now I have the CH Fighter Stick, Pro Thottle, and Peddals. Its good, you must get into the programing stuff but you can program the crap out it! If you're like me, I hate the programing stuff so I just get profiles from folks like Rugbutt and Crunch. You'll have a long lasting stick but it still feels like a toy. My understanding is thrustmaster is fixing the problems with their Warthog stick...I wait for reviews after 6 months to see if they have. One of my squad mates Jojo has had almost every damn stick made (ok, well a lot of them) and he swears by the X65F. He did tell me that it took some gettign used to as the stickj doesn't move. He mentioned you must bee tuned into to trimming your aircraft. But he also said he didn't think he'd fly other stick again. But....it's Jojo, he''s got five sticks, so we'll see. I also have a squad mate, Machingun that likes the Logitech G940. I've not flown that one but love the force feed back idea. I have a lot of Logitech gear and it all works perfectly!!! One thing I will probably get back to is all metal construction. If CH would just do that they'd be the perfect stick.