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Or check out smoothtrack I think it is. An app that uses the camera on your phone that can work with opentrack to replicate trackIR for a fraction of a fraction the cost! I'll be honest - I've used TrackIR for years and it's been brilliant and wouldn't have done without it. But with the cost of TrackIR today, vs so many alternatives, and then vs the price of some VR head units - I don't think I would buy trackIR again if mine died now. I think I'd try out smoothtrack first, that's for sure.

Oh - I just found this post! Thank you. I've been wondering why the menu option keeps coming up and closing on the screen, in the end having to run DCS without VIACOM when using the Huey! Can't wait to try this tonight so I can get back to learning VIACOM! Thank you!

Thanks for your reply! I'm assuming when you say I shouldn't be limited in SP in the yellow - you're talking CPU, not GPU. All I'm talking about at present is the CPU. I figure if I try chasing both I'm going to get myself very confused, so I'm staying in SP to concentrate solely on the GPU at this time, so I know how what I'm changing is affecting the GPU only. I have the Logitech X56, not the winwing, so I don't think that is a factor but thanks for the tip. I already have the VRFPS app from steam. That's the whole reason for this thread. :smilewink: I have it - I just wanted to make sure I was using it in the correct way - not chasing the wrong things. When you're talking about your 'frame times' with winwing - can you please clarify - are you talking GPU or CPU frame times? If you're talking GPU - that's surprising that a peripheral like that could make changes to the GPU and maybe I need to look further into what's going on. (Or consider a second installation of my OS). It's pretty clean as it is, but maybe it could be 'cleaner'. Water is on medium. I'll try reducing that to low and see how I go. I'm getting the feeling that my expectations for having things clear in VR aren't going to be met for some time. Maybe I should have experienced the RIFT first and I might be appreciating more the HP Reverb... but the HP reverb is all I know and when I see fuzzy text at 100%, and it's much clearer when I raise it beyond 150 - I'd like to be able to read clearer without thinking I need glasses. (Which I don't - it's just that it's rendering that way for some reason).

I don't wear glasses in real life. I've got better than 20/20 eyesight (at least the last time I went and had my aviation medical exam last year :)). I can see clearly many of the things in VR (including the pixel lines) - it's just the text and DDI images that comes from DCS that appears blury in VR (at 100%. It get's better when I crank it above 150% - and looks quite amazing when I do 500% - but of course it's more like still clear photo's jumping from one to the other at that resolution). I find it confusing that given the same number of pixels and resolution that static 2D text (such as labels and the monitor) improves with increasing SS. It's such a pitty they haven't found a way to give nice clear readable text in the cockpit in VR without having to SS. Roger that with not chasing the green or red. I was just trying to figure out how to 'use' VRFPS correctly as I had concerns I was using it in an incorrect manner. I feel like I've spent more hours since I've gotten into VR over the past month playing with graphic settings than being ingame! :huh:

Aah - sweet. So the yellow isn't a warning that I'm over-cooking the cpu or anything and need to back off - it's just simply advising that I'm in 45FPS territory instead of 90. Great to know. :thumbup:

Thanks for the tips all. I've dialed the SS back to 120%. That makes me feel like I need glasses again, but it has reduced the FPS (although still not in the green). So going back to the original question in regards to how to work with FPSVR - can someone please advise if it's OK to run with settings where FPSVR is in "the yellow", or should I be looking at reducing my settings constantly until it's in the green? (If I now in the yellow is OK - I can keep playing with settings there, but if I'm doing the wrong thing and need to be keeping it in the green and that's the problem with stuttering - I'll have to compromise more, and maybe consider going negative with SS and give up on clear cockpits).

Thanks so much for your reply and sorry - I got my acronyms wrong. It's Anistorpic Filtering I had to 4x. SLAA isnt even a setting in the game - whoops. (SLRR is but that is already off). I've kept MSAA off. I read somewhere that you can either use it, or as a substitute increase SS to do a similar task - and if I get some spare overhead available I think I'd prefer the latter as it would make things even sharper again. I'd love to hit MSAA at 2x still to get rid of jaggies but at the moment I don't think I have spare power available - I'm chasing good image and smoothness first. I'll try turning Anistorpic filtering from 4x to off and see if that helps. Thanks I'll play around with the settings out of the game and see what I can find. I see there's a new driver available as of 2 days ago... so maybe that will help. Visual distance is set to High but I can try dropping that. I like it on high when flying fast movers, but with the helo's - if that's going to be a big boost in performance by dropping it - it'll be well worth it! Thanks for the tip!

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you... 100% (220x2156) for "All Apps" 149% (2684x2632) for "DCS"

Yeah - that's my thoughts at the moment. Watching this solidified it: https://clips.twitch.tv/PatientHandsomeEchidnaBleedPurple Looks like its an easy way to get around VRS too. :music_whistling:

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Using the beta yes, and I'll have to go back and confirm the res (not at home at the moment to check), but if I recall it it was in the high 2,000's resolution. (Somewhere around 2,800 at a guess, but I will confirm when I'm able to)

Oh - I agree, but that is why I asked people to list the why they find that helicopter to be fun. :) That way I'm able to line up my priorities and preferences with fun to the posts that match and choose accordingly. Already chosen the Huey and have just started on it. I'll have to do a search for these video's. Thanks for the tip!

Hi, I'm running a 2080 Super on a 10900K with 64GB of RAM on SSD's. I seem to be getting less performance than what others are saying they're getting with lesser hardware. The one thing of note is that I'm running SS at 150% on a HP Reverb. (There's significant difference to me when reading screens and labels between 100% and 150%. When I go back to 100% I feel like I need to visit the optometrist and buy glasses). My main desire is to have sharp readable graphics in the cockpit followed by smooth frames. I don't care if the frames are only at 45FPS, or if textures outside the cockpit are not that great - as long as they're smooth and I can read clearly in the cockpit and I don't have the display flickering in my eyes. (Hence running at 90hz and not 60 in WMR). In VRFPS I'm showing GPU cycles at around 17-18ms on 'Instant action - Fly' in the FA-18, so there's no other units to worry about clogging up resources. CPU is in the green (often in the yellow with MP, but with instant action - flying only and no other units CPU seems fine in the green). FPS is at 45 (running re-projection), and the GPU graph is in the high 'yellow'. It doesn't go into red but I still get the occasional stuttering more often than I'd like especially when looking out the window to the side at lower altitudes. I normally fly the FA-18 but have just purchased the Huey and I'm concerned about the stuttering at low altitudes ruining the experience especially if I start going into MP (which I haven't yet - I'm crashing too much at the moment ;)). Is it normal and OK to run the GPU in the 'yellow' (in VRFPS), or is this doing the wrong thing and do I need to be aiming for running in the green with the occasional blip in the yellow? (My current thought was to run in the yellow but I read somewhere else someone saying that yellow is 'bad' and that you need to be in the green but I can't remember where and would like confirmation if my issues are caused by running the GPU too hard). Settings: Shadows are all off. MSAA & SSAA are Off. SLAA is 4x Grass is 0 PreloadRadius is around 70 Water is Medium Textures are High (although I have tried medium and didn't notice a huge difference). In Cockpit Display is 1024 Smoke is 1 VSYNC is Off edit: PD is 1.0 Windows Gaming mode is disabled. Antivirus is set on 'gaming mode' (ESET). WMR is at 90hz best quality. Nvidia power is set to best performance. I'm also running the current shader mod for better performance. I ran open beta for the first time in ages last night and it seemed to perform worse for me than the current stable release. I've tried afterburner. (I have no idea what I'm doing with overclocking - but basically I launched the app, ran an auto-check and saved as profile one. There doesn't seem to be any noticable difference with afterburner running, and turned off). I'm left with the conclusion that focusing on FPS may be leading me astray - that stuttering may not be linked to FPS's and I just wanted to double check that I'm using VRFPS correctly. Any thoughts as to what I'm doing dumb would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again all for your replies. Well, I've made my decision - and it's the Huey for me this time 'round. Many reasons lead me to this. The Gazelle while it would probably be a ball of fun challenging - there's too many question marks at this stage so I thought I'd give it a miss. I already have the FA-18, so sitting on station looking at screens inside as @wowbagger mentioned is something I can already do if I want. The Huey seemed as though it was going to give me the newest experience whilst still being able to be practical. After some sort experiments with it I found it to be more stable than I thought it would be. (This coming from a background of flying and hovering a R44 in real life before). In comparison I found the R44 was very twitchy and wanting to crash the whole time. The Huey (in DCS) by seems more sedate - but still challenging - I think it's the perfect combo for what I'm looking for after putting a little bit of time on it in DCS. But I have already experienced VRS - and I must say I do not like it! I can see that being a challenge for sure! :joystick:

I'm having the screen blackout when going to F10 too on a multiplayer server. I think it's going to crash the game, and then what feels like an eternity, the F10 screen comes on. Unlike you though - the reverb comes back again. (Reverb with a 2080, 10900K and 64GB of RAM all on SSD)

Thanks so much for all the replies - and the extra details of why which are far more helpful than just "I like" by itself. :thumbup: It looks like I've gotten more than I bargained for though. I'm thinking the Gazelle may be what I'm looking for - but without being able to demo it - it may be too much for me to handle, so I may give it a miss for the time being (at least until there's a "Free to try" time period again just to see what it's like). For what I'm chasing - fly by the seat of your pants slam it in where I want it kicking rudder type of stuff but still a safe bet - it sounds like the Huey is going to be the safest play to start with, but I'm fast seeing that I'm going to probably be buying a second bird to go into battle if I get hooked on helo's. (I'm suspicious that it will probably be the Ka-50 or maybe Mi8 unless the Kiowa is released by then). In addition to seeing that I'm probably going to spend twice as much as I first anticipated (in the long run), I can see another money spender coming up... :D Thanks all!

Not flying a F-14 yet... this doesn't happen already? If not +1 for sure. It's a team effort. Pilot's get all the girls and the fame as it is - now they get the kills too? ;)

Thank you so much for this demo. This should be part of the DCS download as a free unit. Downloading and playing it to try out what helo's are like - I can see some $'s been spent in the near future on other modules! I would have done this ages ago if I had have had the same experience - I just never knew this existed! Thanks heaps!

You're assuming that the shortening of life is dramatic. If people were having their systems go that quickly - I doubt overclocking would be so popular. I think in most cases, the CPU outlives it's usefulness and people upgrade well before the CPU goes anyway. In the end, different people, different priorities, different focus I guess.... Hey... some people here might even have a gaming rig solely for running DCS with no other games on it simply because they enjoy it that much... not that I would admit to that with the wife being online. :smilewink:

Have been having "Hit and miss" with multiplayer servers also. Worth noting: It seems that it will work sometimes and then when another player joins or leaves the server, it drops out. (Then another player joining or leaving again can cause it to return again), as though it has to do with the number of people being on being odd or even?

I've only been playing night on Persian Gulf, but have the same problem. The whole town is lit-up like Christmas and there's a hole where the runway should be. Currently using NVG just to land and take off. :( Inbound calls make no difference.

Thanks. For the info - this is the kinda stuff I'm looking for. Sounds like the mi8 is worth ignoring for the time being - I'm wanting something with a bit more 'spirit' than being sedate even though I'm sure it's a great war platform. What's the AH-6 like compared to the gazelle? I'm assuming by looking at it that the AH-6 is a more nimble bird as well? And another vote for the Gazelle ey? ;) Thanks!

I was wondering about that. With it being so twitchy I thought maybe it would be more fun (first of all more versatile / can do more in it) plus more of a challenge to learn and conquer, but I didn't want to assume and wanted to get different thoughts on the subject while focusing solely on flight enjoyment. Thank you so much for that! A free helicopter to demo in DCS! That is fantastic - to at least give people a little taste of what's available! I'll be checking that out. Thank you!

So the counter-rotating blades don't reduce it's niftyness. You can throw it around just as much any of the other helicopters? I was put off by both the counter-rotating blades (maybe assuming incorrectly), plus discussions that it was a difficult aircraft to learn with 'many systems', but if it can be thrown around like other aircraft and not always 'horizontal' like counter rotating RC aircraft I may need to give it another look. Thanks!

Sure would appear to be the case...