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yes I agree.. turbulences sounds has to be up.. etc..

I got more fps with steamVR smooth OpenXR is choppy

Not much trainned A real trainned pilot has much less movement which is similar to the setting i made.. But by doind so we feel more turbulence or plane action not head.. try for a flight not 3 minutes if possible Roll head is inacceptable ..

Have you tried in real life? This is so minimal.. and the absurd vertical axis is removed..

Test this if you want.. feels nice in VR or TIR.. More realistic feel.. 1- Turn ON "Head movements by Gforce" in "Misc" Tab 2- Go to ..DCS World OpenBeta\Config\View 3- Look for "View.lua" file -- 4- Edite this : head_roll_shaking = true head_roll_shaking_max = 30.0 head_roll_shaking_compensation_gain = 0.3 -- To those values.. head_roll_shaking = true head_roll_shaking_max = 0.005 head_roll_shaking_compensation_gain = 0 -- 5- Go to the properties of the file and make it "read Only" Much better feeling.!

mine on VR is 2

Very good point yes..

Thanks going to look.. Yes i used to touch this years ago with Track Ir but never tested with VR ( forgot about this )

Yes the effect are too much as i was saying divided just like 50% would do better... I wonder if there is a way to tweak this .. it seems it connect better with some external effects better but too much for the head.

Well this feel better on and I think we should all do click on this one.. VERY exaggerated on the Y axis.. way too much ! Our head have a great suspension anti shockd around so ..

You missed the point.. I really don't explain well.. But lets see a good talk about this would be fine.. I am not taking your piece of cake away.. we all love it but having some effects simulate some winds.. buffets and turbulence more would e a big change on the visual feel of DCS.. yesterday I landed virtually an Hellcat on a carrier and it's far far better effects than landing a P47 on a carrier in DCS.. So all we want is teh best .. we all want it

Ok At list you saw .. this is what would be fabulous.. I flew a lot irl. it's hard to explain via posts.. with out sounding annoying.. I know but I do have a quite important experience on MiG and Yak9 not 52 .. I will try to explain.. many have never experienced those effects.. lets take an example of a vehicle that can relate to aircraft on just 2 plains not 3.. lets take a Motorcycle since a many have more driven than an aircraft but the basics are the same.. you are on the road lets say driving at 180mph ( to have some good strong wind) then approach yourself from an other motorcycle going 178mph coming from behind you will feel and see the buffets then the absorption.. the sucking effects and the push effects etc.. or going through at speed .. it's easy to imagine .. but in DCS it feels like you ae riding on the freeway and you have those melted asphalt tires tracks slopping effect.. and that is only for your wake turbulence effect.. now for teh atmospheric effects it's an other story and I think because it's lacking of it that what is off to me.. we do not have the flight effects that we have on a real aircraft.. It is easy to simulate those kinds of effects riding a motorcycle more or less .. Now tell me if i am off my thought here.. a Flight "simulation" is first about flying and everything is built on top of it.. not systems and weather aircraft effects after.. I hope i am clear.. now i know you said that you guys are working on it.. well in 2010 it was the same even before with Lockon and on today... Would you tell us what are the work done or project direction for this long awaited focus ? this is from a stand point of view of a Pilot .. Thank you to spend time on this with us. remember this is nothing to do with aircraft FM and performances... ( the picture was very explicit ) We all have the passion for DCS

Those are like a car going through truck melted tire on a freeway.. due to the lack of the rest of the physics . really.. need tlc just important to see that .. what about this? When we speak about something that is not right you guys are very vague or dismissive or we feel guilty to ask.. but here it is ,, DCS in Atmospheric is lacking big time.. I will make a video and talk about this .. Can you tell us please what is on teh work? after 20 years i think it maybe time to lets us know the plan and what .. DCS is falling behind for sure .. what can you tell us ? Thx

Going to answer on a better way

Bignewy. I understand and I am trying to be constructive with out offend anyone.. I do not want .. there are a very nice amount of pilots trying DCS and others.. But there are some others that are actually fan of the Sims and equiped with good hotas and VR .. like myself.. we fly the sims and DCS for very different personal reasons and it is good and we dont take it as just a game but more serious .. No ego hete is good... I have been since the begining and made some mods etc. So i always try to get as much as real possible.. at list visually .. i understand the difficulties but I think what I say is very important to work on and making sure the Dev of DCS are aware that we want the flights to feel as real as possible too just not only rainbows . we all want this and same as you ofcourse.. but it would be good to have an open talk about it .. the community has a lot of very experienced and talented people in all field. I am experience on flying the Yak the MiG etc.. and do graphics as well . How could we help? Talk about? Been more transparent with this.. ? Etc.. I apology if i am abrupt but this is the phrase i can form with my English knowledge.. We all love it and wanting the best.. it is fun.. social.. educative and therapeutic. I will try to do a video to show a little in DCS.. Thank you for participating

That is the point.. its very badly done I understand.. having effect of the f14 getting buffets vibrations do not kill fps.. same

i am amazed of many of you do not want this implementation that is a huge priority for flight.. managing systems is fun but managing button systems with weathers effects is even more.. trying to land .. trying to fight.. trying to bombs etc with a weather effects is far more interesting.. harder yes .. but I am not here because it's easy.. i like it when there are challenges ..

Easy to find examples on youtubes

That would be interesting to know but I am going to test..

I understand and yes.. " aircraft systems are simulated very properly," yes but this is not the problem.. Take the MiG21 or F14 pull the stick on a heavy turn .. you'll see air friction buffets retalted to a visual effect corresponding to a turn etc. .. well this can be applied to turbulence as well but they are not at the moment.

Dragon1. Agreed

LoL yes. Interesting to compare with other sims with out saying names.. but DCS is great far better than others regarding the systems implementation .. and this is not in question.. but it is the most arcade alike of all of them in the atmospheric effects onto the the plane and that should be better.. Now i am going to retest one ww2 sim with a North African name that actually has both.. atmospheric and systems within. This is a good topic