Steelpanther

Dont get me wrong the currently existing ACM submodes bore (especially with JHMCS), hud scan, vertical scan are pretty good. But when is slewable coming? And markpoints would be great to use for viper ground striking I think to mark out where some targets are. That is all. I had a bit of a slump and and kinda lost interest in the viper for a while last month; I got the basics figured out already pretty well. There was not much new features in viper. But I went back to viper to learn air refueling and little bit about TACAN and ILS landings, to keep my mind busy so its ok. I've also been playing A-10cii and also enjoying the groundpound, its a very nice module for some relaxing ground strike in the afternoon. Keep up the good work squashing bugs and bringing new viper features ED. I think I will start playing some of my other modules like hornet soon also. Seems like its a very well fleshed out module with the carrier ops and ready made features. I will most likely go really confused about all the control binds though!

im gonna try it on PG map also again. I think the mission editor should show the ILS approaches and frequencies there at least. Im not sure if those show on f10 map once youre in the actual mission- I think Al Dafra has the problem that theres two runways 13 L and 13 R and only one ILS frequency shows for one of these on the F10 map ingame. Not sure if this is supposed to be this way. I just made a custom mission for myself on PG and it only shows one ILS for rw13

im having big trouble also intercepting and maintaining the localizer mainly and glide slope in Al Dafra Persian Gulf. I've been practising ILS in visual conditions just to be sure. I inputted the correct rwy 13 ILS into freq in T-ILS. I even asked Al Dafra ATC where to land, he said rw 13. (this could be good or bad because theres left and right thirteen actually there) Ok, so then I turn back north towards the coast and use TACAN to lineup with airbase for a straight in landing. Then I change the EHSI into PLS TACN mode for intercepting the localizer. Im on perfect approach to one of the runways 13 (there left). I intercept localizer but not yet glide slope. Then the localizer just goes crazy on approach basically.

I feel like in some situations I would prefer to keep like tanks, but jetison bombs. But I dont often run into this issue i think what I was trying to do was to find the enemy on boresight dogfight and then jettison centerline only. Other times you just get shot from long range when doing A2G either by SAM or longrange fighter like mig31. In that case I might want to jettison bombs but still evade and maybe continuie doing CAP. But since I made this thread Ive learned how to AAR also so Im not that dependant on droptanks nowadays. (like i think i can do AAR atleast in low lag server or SP)

it might be that im somehow misunderstanding the centering of the dogfight switch somehow but now im just utterly confused myself lol

I dont have a dog in this fight if what you say is true that the implementation as is should be correct for block 50 F-16. My impetus in filing this "bug report" was that I read both Chucks guide F-16 and the eagle dynamics F-16 early access manual. And the eagle dynamics manual was misleading in this regard then. if the current ingame implementation is the correct one. Because the ED manual F-16 claims on p.189 regarding sidewinder missiles the following eagle dynamics F-16 early access guide p.199 clearly as evidenced by the ingame tracks that I posted the underlined is wrong in the manual then. COOL is only selected automatically when entering the dogfight override mode, IF the AIM-9 was already selected as a weapon e.g. in the AAM mode. However if you enter dogfight override mode from AAM with AIM-120 selected as a weapon, you will instead receive in the dogfight override mode AIM-9 selected with WARM seeker Furthermore the COOL is not automatically selected with MSL override mode. In fact ingame what happens is that if you had selected AIM-9 and COOL in dogfight override mode, and transition to AAM, then still in this stage the settings are preserved for the AIM-9 in the AAM. But entering MSL override mode, the AIM-120 is selected and seemingly the AIM-9 seeker reverts back to WARM upon the change of weapons. eagle dynamics F-16 early access guide p.188 Perhaps an addition could be made here that AIM-9 seeker cooling will not be considered a saveable setting upon change of weapons from AIM-9-> AIM-120->AIM-9? I think atleast BORE/SLAVE will be preserved from what I've seen ingame

this doesnt work currently in game i just tested it

the only document i could find from google was multicommand F-16 handbook dated 1996 volume 5 (from f-16.net) It mentions fence in checklist. And under it it says put missiles to cool seeker. Implication is that the missiles would stay on cool seeker, because it is part of a fence in procedure prior to entering the combat zone. But maybe the behavior changed from the 1996 versions of F-16 and aim9 missile. In those days there must have been aim-9M in service https://www.f-16.net/downloads/F-16_Handbooks/11-f-16v5.pdf

3.1 – M61A1 GUN 3.1.1 – EEGS (Enhanced Envelope Gun Sight) Introduction. its in there atleast my pdf version of chucks guide f-16 viper

feel free to make a thread or post in my newly created thread to provide more information. you seem like knowledgeable guy on f-16 systems. I just went by with what I've read from chucks guide

Aircraft had amraams and aim9x loaded. Master arm set to MASTER ARM. Air-to-Air master mode selected. Amraam selected. Dogfight override mode entered and I always seem to get aim9x selected with warm seeker head. It was only after I exited from dogfight mode back into AAM with those aim9x selected, and then back again into dogfight mode again, that the cool seeker arrived with aim9x cool seeker selected. Master arm was on constantly. My control setup was warthog throttle and I used boat switch as the DGFT and MSL OVR switch in controls. Clearly my controls work, otherwise they would be unable to even switch between DGFT and AAM and MSL OVR. The controls I setup for the boat switch was called in its category designation "special for joystick, throttle grip, hotas" dogfight missile override switch dogfight/center, and dogfight missile override switch missile override/center. F-16_bug_report_dogfight_override_aim9_cool_seeker.trk F-16_bug_report_dogfight_override_aim9_cool_seeker_2.trk

so to reiterate the entering into dogfight mode only seems to cool the seeker of the aim9x, only if the aim9x was already selected weapon in the original mode with warm seeker e.g. in the Air-to-air master mode. Then when I press dogfight override it will actually go into dogfight override mode and select aim9x with cool seeker.

that is the case atleast for me that it wont go to cool seeker. Master arm was on with amraams selected. Air-to-Air mastermode was selected. Then I pressed dogfight override and I had bore aim9x with warm seeker selected. It was only after I exited from dogfight mode back into AAM with those aim9x selected, and then back again into dogfight mode, that the cool seeker arrived with aim9x cool seeker selected. Master arm was on constantly. I have the trackfile here but i dont know where to put the bugreport. My control setup was warthog throttle and I used boat switch as the DGFT and MSL OVR switch in controls. Clearly my controls work, otherwise they would be unable to even switch between DGFT and AAM and MSL OVR. The controls I setup for the boat switch was called in its category designation "special for joystick, throttle grip, hotas" dogfight missile override switch dogfight/center, and dogfight missile override switch missile override/center. F-16_bug_report_dogfight_override_aim9_cool_seeker.trk F-16_bug_report_dogfight_override_aim9_cool_seeker_2.trk

ok thanks for info. Chucks guide p.364 f-16 viper provided incorrect information on this matter, leading to me misunderstanding those 1-127 were wingspan profiles.

I don't know if it is working as intended but I doubt it. Obviously there is slots for multiple gunsight wingspans available in the jet from 1-127. Those slots are scrollable with increment switch. But setting one profile to a wingspan value sets it to all the profiles overriding all profiles. It is not possible to set multiple profiles at the moment. Seems very fishy from the look of it, but maybe it works like this. nvidia replay is currently uploaded to youtube so the quality might still be bit low but get better as HD version is processed at this time.