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Will the other radar modes be coming at some point? Like the terrain avoidance and air-to-ground ranging? I see the BZ mode on the roadmap. I ask because I assume the roadmap is just the updates in the relatively near-future, not all of the updates. Also, forgive me if this has since been changed, but when the F1EE released, the trim felt much slower than the CE’s trim. Is it supposed to be like that? Or is it a bug? Again, forgive me if it’s already been changed. Thanks. I love your rendition of the F1! A truly excellent module. Looking forward to all that is in store. It was a good choice of aircraft to model because of its diverse history. Hopefully some more variants will come eventually. I think the community can universally agree on the worthiness of the South African F1AZ.

Actually funny you say that! Since writing my original piece in this thread, I actually emailed Aerges and let them know there was an EQ-6 in that museum and also that the EQ would be the absolute best, most significant, and most useful variant they could develop for DCS. They responded and said that they “will probably do that in the future.”

I’ve heard conflicting statements regarding weapons on Aerges’ Mirage F1 and I’d like to hear a solid answer from those from Aerges, or those who know Aerges’ intent. Spanish F1s never used Exocets, but I’ve heard that they were wired to fire Exocets. However, Spain was never a user of the Exocet. So, will the F1 be getting the Exocet on the basis that it COULD carry it? If so, the F1EE especially would be a great stand-in for the F1EQ, which is more-or-less completely off limits for DCS. While the F1EQ is a bit far-fetched for DCS, I suppose it is possible, albeit with a large headache for Aerges. Would Aerges be willing to sustain such a headache if the DCS community wants an F1EQ? It is the most appropriate variant for DCS, but on the other hand, the Aerges team would have to go to Iran. Plus, the Iranians are quite likely to refuse to allow some guys to come over and model their plane for a simulator. I know those in-the-know regarding the Mirage F1 in the DCS community would kill for an F1EQ, so if someone from Aerges sees this, I’d like you to know. I love your product! Would love to see more variants in the future. The F1AZ is a unique variant, with loads of information available online, several examples on display in museums, and a proven combat record.

The S530F is planned already, and will be on all variants. All (or nearly all) documentation regarding the F1EQ was destroyed by Dassault. Plus, going to Iran to scan and model a real F1EQ will be unfeasible and unrealistic. I doubt Iran would want westerners coming in and simulating their plane, regardless of how old it is. Also, I doubt they’re original. I’m sure Iran has made some changes to their F1EQs. I would love an F1EQ, no doubt, since it’s by far the most appropriate variant for DCS, but it’s just not feasible. There’s no information available, and all the F1EQs are still in Iranian service. On the other hand, the South African F1AZ has plenty of information available online, there are various examples on display in museums, and they have a respectable combat record, much like the F1EQs. While it’s not multirole like the EQ, it is a dedicated ground attack variant with the radar removed, replaced by extra fuel, weapon computers, and a rangefinder. The AZ could carry fourteen 500lbs bombs, and deliver them very precisely, which could make for very fun missions in multiplayer. But I would love an F1EQ, with its highly advanced systems, wide array of weapons from various nations, external pods to perform quite literally any mission, and just for historical significance. Exocet, AS30L, AJ168 Martel, KH-29 Kedge (Russian missile), S530F, free fall bombs, etc. The F1EQ even had an aerial refueling pod, so they could refuel other F1EQs! It could do anything well. That is my number one wishlist aircraft, but it’s just not feasible.

Yes, but that’s not too outrageous to expect, at least I don’t think so. But it uses the same weapons, and is referred to as being multirole, whereas the F1CE isn’t. It surely has something special that makes it better at ground attack than the CE. And if if has the same weapons, I would imagine that the special feature must be increased precision.

I’d love an EQ variant. Aerges said that they would be willing to make more variants after the F1M is complete, so I would love to see an F1EQ and the South African F1AZ ground attack variant.

ABSOLUTELY. I have a VirPil throttle, and there are four switches on the base. The problem is, they only have a control for one way. So if you have it set to an “on/off” control, you would have to flip the switch to turn it on, flip it back, then flip it forward again to turn it off, which is immensely stupid. “On else Off” is SO much better, and, I agree, should be standard.

Nope. The F1M still had the Cyrano IV M radar, and thus it can’t use the 530D. The “D” in “530D” stands for “doppler”. The Cyrano IV M isn’t a doppler radar. However, the Super 530F WILL be available, even on the F1CE. One thing different on the F1M’s radar is a sea mode, which leads me to believe that it may get an Exocet! I hope the F1EE gets an Exocet as well, though. I’d like to fly an older feeling aircraft and use the Exocet, as the Iraqis did in the Iran-Iraq War and the Gulf War. Considering that the CE and EE will, more-or-less, carry the same weapons, but the EE is considered multirole, I would be led to believe that the EE may be equipped with CCIP and/or CCRP. So the F1M will surely be equipped with CCIP and CCRP abilities.

You all make great points, and I thank you for bringing them up. Sure, the P-61 didn’t make a bit impact, didn’t get many kills, and sure as hell wasn’t a “war winner” like the P-47, P-51, or Mosquito, but what makes it interesting is that it’s different. Many pioneering innovations in modern aircraft came from the P-61, and gameplay would be completely different from anything any of us have experienced in DCS. Of course more famous and effective aircraft should be welcomed, such as the F6F, P-38, A-26 (I would LOVE an A-26), etc., I think there should also be the addition of less effective, but more unique aircraft, such as the Black Widow. But as one of you hinted at, a German night fighter would be a great addition. Since DCS WW2 is currently inclined to the end of the war, a German, radar-equipped night fighter such as a BF-110 or Ju-88 would be wonderful. They (it) would be unique, like the P-61, but it would also be an aircraft that was effective and noteworthy. Really any radar-equipped night fighter would be a wonderful addition. A Mosquito, Beaufighter, BF-110, Ju-88, or, of course, a P-61 would be fantastic and brand new to DCS, and flight simulation as a whole. What other sim has fully simulated, clickable-cockpit WW2 nightfighters with fully-functional early radar with all the quirks? None! This is a great point. A BF-110 or Ju-88 night fighter would be much better suited. They were effective, while also bringing the unique WW2 night fighter experience to DCS, as I so crave. But on the other hand, the P-61 was just so damn gorgeous! But yes, a BF-110 would be fantastic, as it’s probably one of if not the most (in)famous WW2 night fighters.

Yep! The precedent of a divided, heavy workload was set by HeatBlur’s brilliant F-14, so I think a P-61 would be perfectly feasible. The biggest problem would be getting real-life flight data and SMEs. However, the longer we wait, the less SMEs there will be. The sad reality is that people who have experience with the P-61 are getting older and are passing. To my knowledge, the P-61 restoration project isn’t yet complete, but it will provide the best shot at getting a Black Widow.

So does the Pave Spike tell the pilot when to release an LGB? Or does the pilot have to guesstimate like with a dumb bomb, then guide it in with the TPod?

I can’t wait to use the Pave Spike…

Highly doubt that. They’re also making the South Atlantic Map, which is the Falklands. I guarantee that their Sea King will be the British license-built Westland Sea King. Plus, the Westland version is much more advanced and capable than the American version. As for the real American helo, I recall Razbam hosting a vote asking if the community wanted “Large helicopters”, to which the community overwhelmingly voted “yes”. So the American helicopter would likely be a Stallion or Chinook. As for the 2nd European helicopter, who knows? But a Westland Sea King + Stallion/Chinook would be an awesome helicopter lineup to have!

Magnitude 3 has teased an Su-17/20/22 for the past 2 years. First in their 2020 Merry Christmas post, and then their 2022 New Years’ post.

If we were to get both, it would be quite interesting. Similar to the F-18 + F-16. Similar capabilities but different at the same time. Maybe a modern CH-53 and a Vietnam CH-47?

Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m on the CH-53’s team! I’m biased to Navy/naval as well! (Albeit the CH53 is a Marine aircraft…but naval nonetheless.)

That would be neat, but the Sea Knight is nowhere near the CH-47 or CH-53 when it comes to lifting capacity. Of course, DCS currently is more suited towards medium-lift, such as the Hip, and some changes would be needed to suit heavy-lift, though I think it would be worth doing a Chinook or Stallion over a Sea Knight. Though the Sea Knight is cool and, I’ll be honest, I completely forgot about it!

That’s the spirit! The two most likely candidates for a heavy lift helo in DCS is the Ch47 Chinook and CH53E Super Stallion. Both can lift around 25,000lbs (ish), and both can carry loads of troops. The only real deciding factors between which one would genuinely have to come down to a community vote! Does the community want a super famous and widely used CH-47? Or does the community want a less famous, less widely used, but ship-based CH-53E? I’d rather have the CH-53E, as I like the conventional layout. But whether it’s a CH-47 or CH-53, they would both fit the heavy-lift, somewhat multirole niche that’s missing! Both can have gunners onboard with either miniguns or .50s. If we were to get a Vietnam-era CH-47, we could even get the ACH-47 as a 2nd version. It was equipped with miniguns, grenade launchers, rockets, etc., but had it’s carrying hooks and other lifting equipment removed.

True, the 47 and 53 are both very iconic, and both would make for pretty sweet modules. I’d personally prefer a 53, but I’d take a 47! A Sea King would also be awesome! Only if it was the British, Westland version. The Westland Sea King had a wide array of extremely advanced tech and could also use the Exocet and Sea Eagle anti-ship missiles! That would also be awesome.

Lets just hope someone from ED sees this and shares the idea with other employees of ED! I just want them to know that I’m not proposing a replacement for the C-130 or any other cargo plane, but rather compliment it. Cargo helicopters would accomplish the cargo-hauling role, while also having a dynamic and challenging aspect to them, with them being helicopters rather than fixed-wing aircraft. My personal No.1 would be the CH54 Tarhe, but I know my opinion is not very widespread in the DCS community, and I accept that. But, I would also settle just fine with a CH53E Super Stallion! They can both haul roughly equal cargo loads, but the CH53E is a bit more “multirole” in that it can SAR, CSAR, troops transport, as well as cargo haul, whereas the CH54 can only really cargo haul. ED, if you see this, please, at least consider, a CH53E Super Stallion. While it may not have an offensive weapons available to the pilot(s), there’s a plethora of tasks within the DCS environment that the Stallion could accomplish.

Yeah, I’ve seen loads of people interested in the Mi-6/26, but the biggest problem is the fact that they’ve got massive crews. On the Tarhe, it’s a shame that many people gloss right over it, as it’s an incredible machine. A 47 or 53 would definitely be more appealing to the DCS community, as they have gunners onboard. But I’d settle for a CH53 any day! But also, I know many helicopter pilots in DCS who only play DCS for the realistic helicopter physics, which are far better than any other game on the market. So, that would certainly make the Tarhe a useful and appealing aircraft to them. If they were to make a 53 or a 54, I’d prefer a 54 to be honest, but I’d settle just fine with a 53!

Does anyone see the potential in cargo/heavy-lift helicopters? I’ve heard that ED is planning to/is currently making a cargo plane. So, I figured, with cargo-running being a somewhat boring way of flying, cargo helicopters would be much more interesting. While you’re still hauling cargo, you also have the interesting and fun challenge of wrangling a powerful helicopter. Of course, cargo planes can carry significantly heavier loads and they do have a place in DCS, with the maps being massive. However, for smaller loads, cargo helicopters would be significantly more interesting and incentivizing to fly. For example, a CH-54 Tarhe or CH-53E Super Stallion could never dream of carrying as much weight as merely a C-130, but in a sim, they would be vastly more interesting. You need to slow to a hover, skillfully hold the hover, and hook up to whatever heavy load you’re lifting. Also, you can do it wherever you want! I think that in addition to the C-130 (if it is indeed becoming a module), we should also get a heavy-lift helicopter for smaller, but more interesting missions. Here’s a list of super cool and very fitting aircraft for the job: CH53E Super Stallion CH47 Chinook CH54 Tarhe (“Sky Crane”) Mi-6 (downside: large, 5-6 man crew) Mi-26 (downside: large, 5-6 man crew) Helicopters that are interesting and worthy, but not good as the NEXT helicopter: UH-60 AH-1 The Tarhe, Chinook, and Stallion are all great options, and I’d argue better options than the Mil duo. With a small crew while still packing huge lifting muscles, they’d be ideal for the job! Especially the Tarhe with it’s 10,000lbs Daisy Cutter LZ-clearing bomb and huge muscles! @NineLine Sorry to bother you, buuuut…

Ah, okay. I thought maybe you may have had turbulence off, and that’s why. I guess not then! It’s sad to hear that helicopter turbulence isn’t modeled though, especially for the helo lovers out there.

Who said we needed the Jaguar GR3? The Jaguar GR1 would certainly fill a niche for a Cold War strike aircraft just fine. It’s old-school-cool and non-secretive. I think it would be great.

There’s a wake turbulence option in the game settings. Does that affect helos? Maybe that’s turned off for you. Main Menu ->Settings -> Gameplay -> “Wake turbulence”