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ahh, beat me to it. this is still the most playable helicopter sim. really great work. GVO, my understanding is that EECH2 was a commercially driven mod of EECH. Similar to the falcon 4 allied force release. Apparently it branches off from an earlier patch. General consensus is that is isn't as good as the community mod version 1.9, but for people who don't want to chase all the patches it may be easier. I haven't tried EECH2 so I can't confirm this!

the graphics were more basic in terms of appearance, but more detailed in terms of working bits actually on the aircraft, if you know what I mean. It reminded me of a military sim were more emphasis was placed on the accuracy of the model, than textures (which I don't think it had any of...) It was great! I used to be on the flanker mailing list...but it was very hard dodging missiles you couldn't often see.

more on the F-22 problems! Please note I'm not trying to run down the F-22, it is one of my dream aircraft. Just the US spent a LOT of money on this, and it had software bugs. Bear this in mind next time you're having a go at ED (or any software house :): SOURCE:Flightglobal.com Pictures: Navigational software glitch forces Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptors back to Hawaii, abandoning first foreign deployment to Japan By Justin Wastnage Lockheed Martin is rushing a software fix to Hawaii after 12 US Air Force F-22A Raptors en route to Japan for the stealth fighter's first overseas deployment had to turn back because an unspecified problem with their navigation systems. The F-22s, of the 27th Fighter Squadron from Langley AFB in Virginia, were en route from Hickham AFB in Hawaii to Kadena AB on Okinawa for a three- to four-month deployment. They are expected to try again by the end of the week, after the software fix is incorporated and tested. Asked to comment on rumours the problem related to crossing the international dateline, the USAF said: "The aircraft experienced a software problem involving the navigation system en route from Hickam to Kadena. For operational security reasons we will not discuss specific aircraft systems or locations." Taking delivery of the first F-22 for the Pacific Air Forces at Lockheed's Marietta, Georgia plant on Monday, USAF Gen Paul Hester said the reason for sending the Raptors to Kadena is “to learn how to deploy with the F-22. We get a manual with the aircraft and we are learning every day the capabilities built into the aircraft.” PACAF's F-22s are being delivered to Langley for training, with the first eight aircraft to arrive at Elmendorf AFB in Alaska in August and two squadrons to be operational by the end of 2008. Eventually, Raptors will also be based at Hickam. Dozerf22 on Fencecheck said this Quote: As you can read on the site we experienced a problem on the deployment leg from Hawaii to Kadena. I thinks its funny since there are so many complicated things that it would be so simple as a line of software code and I believe it's going to be about that simple. Who would have thought, or caught, the software line of code that divided 180 by 0 when you cross the dateline from east to west?? Obviously some engineer never considered that! From my perspective its one of those little things you continue to work out of the system as it matures - they already have a fix in place and the contractor has people on the ground fixing it - to be quite honest, I think its a tremendous sucess story - why? A problem was discovered (expected in a new jet no matter what Raptor opponents will say, NO jet has ever been problem free nor will there ever be), and within a few days its identified and a fix is being put in place in the field, 5,000 miles away out in the field on an operational deployment - that sure seems like one heck'uva a feat to me! In fact, they're now working on the code to make sure we don't discover another "feature" like that to make sure it's good around the globe.

As much as I'd like black shark to be released today, I wouldn't want it to be in an incomplete state. Like for instance if I tried to deploy to Japan I wouldn't want to have to divert half way due to multiple navigation system errors :( http://dc01-cdh-afa03.tranguard.net/AFA/Reports/2007/Month02/Day12/1025raptor.htm when they made the decision not to sell these overseas, someone obviously thought they could save money not buying the full global set of terrain CD's!

at the beginning of the thread there is a post saying things like heat blur and high AA levels (or even just certain drivers) can cause anomalous low fps. perhaps you should try turning that off?

good call, mate! I guess hyperlobby is full scale war!

awaiting Black Shark I've been playing some EECH. That has a good dynamic environment for both campaigns and single missions. I'd like that in LO. As for the F4 vs LO argument, all sim fans should own both by now.

yeah, that first one is a real 'wow' shot! Fantastic!

I remember reading back in the 80's or something, back home in New Zealand, the NZ army beat their US Army guests in a number of exercises. The grunts weren't too worried though as they were stoned the whole time... WATCH OUT BUSH (no relation!) THE KIWIS ARE THE REAL THREAT!

lol

check out here: http://www.rcsimulations.co.uk/ it's an old style frames page, so you have to go and find the controls abd hardware page and scroll down to find the copycat long stick joystick and cyclic.

oh, ffs, do you really think I believe it's a water skier? :)

working from home, wife's got the radio on, Queen start singing 'I want it now'. First thing I think of is Black Shark. Sad, huh?

yeah, OFP was excellent, but the aircraft were seriously dodgy. Tanks too. Lockon BS for the aircraft Armed Assault for the infantry Steel Beasts ProPE for the vehicles ...

I liked this story from the same website: http://englishrussia.com/?p=466 I particularly liked the reference to James Bond, I guess Russians aren't offended by him, and in the third photo there seems to be something just behind the sub, a water skier perhaps?

too many negative comments for me not to be concerned about starforce, but I've not seen any issue with my install. the real problem with Starforce is due to it's bad publicity a lot of people will actively NOT buy things with SF protection. I know several LOMAC flyers that didn't buy FC because of SF (for me, FC was the game that I HAD to have, and after that I could buy other SF protected games as it didn't matter any more!). I wish these guys had FC as I used to fly with them more. I hope they will buy BS too, as some of them are skilled EECH flyers.

I'm not sure what all the confusion is, it seems clear to me (he says as he gets it wrong no doubt!): 1: You have LOMAC. If you install FC it patches you up (1.1) and gives you a flyable SU25T (with campaign) in your LOMAC install. If you install BS it adds flyable Ka-50 (and probably patches a bit more) 2: if you have LOMAC and install BS it patches you up (1.2) and gives you a flyable Ka-50 (with campaign). You don't have a flyable 25T as you haven't bought it. I would imagine there will be a patch for FC that allows you to join 1.2 servers, but that would need to be confirmed. 3: A nice compilation DVD with everything on board, including the dreaded Starforce. Did I mention that I've got a whole separate XP install just for FC because of Starforce. All my other starforce games have been cracked (SHIII, don't know about GTR as I prefer rFactor, and GTR2 doesn't have Starforce). I decided not to buy X3, but then it became available on Steam with no Starforce. Ubi have dropped SF, not sure they have any customers apart from ED?

Naturally!

yes, looks like a nieuport to me, but maybe a Nieuport 11? the front was like an 11, with concessions for a different engine. hope the pilot recovers ok.

I guess it optimises your system; yours must have been running too fast before.

hmm, how will they stop it working? I would have thought the other cockpits will not look right, but the head movement would still work, as in FS2004. Has there been a thread on this that I missed? atm I use the forward/back head movement to zoom in/out, and this would be lost with. cheers to all!

oh lord, I'm sure that's incredibly inappropriate, but it's incredibly funny!

it's a tragedy.

krel01, I decided not too! Maybe for TrackIR5pro...

steel beasts pro as a tanks sim is analogous to LOMAC as a flight sim, in that it's graphics, while excellent, are designed for function not form (as opposed to games like BF2 where the graphics are designed to be pretty as possible). However comparing the models from LOMAC ground units to SBP models is a bit bizarre. SBP is designed for specific miltary customers, so they dictate what is actually in it, and to some extent how things work. It's easy to get in , move the tank and fire the gun, but once youget into commanding the tank, a platoon maybe, then the game really starts to shine, with the AI doing using proper tactics in response to my, umm, unothodox ones. Also the mod community is starting to kick in and is very tight with the devs. As for the price, I don't think LOMAC+FC+BS will have cost me much less. And I'm ready to pay for LOMAC 2, or perhaps another add-on. speaking of BF2, if you buy BF2, spec forces, euro download, armour download, the next add-on ( I think there is another planned) you'll have wasted in the region of 70 quid. If you really want to save money go for a bargin bin Operation Flashpoint and download FFUR for free. That gives a much more interesting half sim- half game (I say that as while it feels like a great infantry sim, I think the fly/tank parts of it are too arcade still)