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Yes its fact since 2.8, for FLIR like many other things, my squadron rolling back to the stable version, please ED.... solve this horrible 2.8 patch BEFORE deploy on stable version

Since last patch (2.8) ground units doesn't restart waypoint sequence when we trigger to back at origin point. previous loop method between 2 WP or more are now dysfunctional. Why change editor logic ? Why every time you make a patch you brake many features, since many years its same... Dont tell me its beta, DCS is eternal beta, your stable version is also a beta version, just with other problems cycle. Because your ratio is: 1 bug sold 1 bug created test2.miz

The goal il to bring jet as real as is get, not a tailored module. AF is not on axis on real plane, flight model need to be same as NATOPS perf charts, payload limits are real, i think you can't take 2 HARM at same pylon (but i need to check to make sure). Edit: No you can't

I'm less optimistic since some years, sure enough the black shark and A-10C was great and still great now (even if the DCS core is more stable now than 10 years ago), but i'm more worried by trade policy than other things like technical issues.

Maybe a little bit more hindsight making us worried by the possibility it'll never be fully featured… Can you understand this point of view even if you don't share the same?

And many others share his opinion, also silent people playing since long time on DCS communities. I think he don't speak for "you" but for many customers who never come here. I think also ED will lost many customers for their early access model, simply from others communities feedbacks.

Yes, there is a mod for that but we dont use mods, we are also waiting for this feature, for finally doing CAS with hornet without human JTAC need

Yes buying at early access stage is investing, or what is it, donation? I think no, invest is based on promises, and i don't think the actual state worth the 80$ i've paid. And yes i regret, even you're right, it's not more important than life itself, really not lol … But more people disapointed = less sales at next early access module. I just react to Nineline when he said we have to be grateful , its false, its business, not charity

I totaly agree, and please stop thinking every point of view shared here is isolated. Lot of customers know money they have invested for F-18 early access was used for F16 early access launch, like they know UH-1 story (with belsimtek team now working for you) and others modules released without announced features, like the Early-access quantity at same time dont cease to grow, year after year (what the next? When?... If you don't change your mind soon i suppose) No we don't have to be grateful, we paid for what you sell, its good thing only if you delivers what we paid for. What have you really done since A-10 ? (and not for us… but mainly to satisfy air national guard). Don't tell to trust you, just prove we can

Good idea for investing, and i confirm, i'll never buy another unfinished product! Ed has ruined my vision of early access concept or any financial support for "future" project, including any other markets. And we're many people like that (and growing more and more). Some years ago i've warned to long term impact of lack of honesty and transparency, answer was lifetime warning or others punctual punishment. Im glad to see its better now, you're more open for discussion, and now i think you can see was right by past. @wags: please just keep in mind we will all lose if ED sink, you for market credibility and us for losing use of high potential simulation software, but high potential doesn't mean customers will accept everything, you can control communication here but not on others communities, sharing many things about DCS, you know its limited market, its good to work at growing harcore sim community but not to the detriment of older customers because renewal is not sufficient… Its just suggestion, not a rude report, i don't blame you for my F-18 early purchase, i was wrong and its my error, but was last time, you will lose more customers if you dont change direction Have a good day sir.

i understand, thank you for answer :thumbup:

Interresting, are you really willing to refund us or it's just for moving subject?

Especially as it's not 1st time, was same past year, you divide your workforce on too many projects at same time. And there is no doubt money is the problem origin and purpose. Yes there is covid, yes we understand it's a good reason for objectives delays, the problem is it's same on normal time, too many new products with beautiful pre release trailers and once released on early access its "full brake" and push another product with same process. It's not correct for customers. No communication can erase that, its fact, if your business model is like that well, but please, be honest and admit it. At least we know what we're buying and cannot complain. It this case off course i would not have bought F-18C as far was finished but that even clear and honest.

Out of early access = start of beta ??? Final release expected 2022? ...

For me you're the best 3rd party dev, after well mades viggen and F-14, continue like that, there is no doubt the F14 is my next module purchase, i too would like retry it since last free days past month. But i agree , if i want it i must pay it, viggen is already in my library and i love it too.