Hey thanks for all the help. I do appreciate it! I am on cable, I have turned off firewall from my microsoft windows, and Nortons firewall, still no activation. I opened the TCP 1698 port. Right now I am so frustrated that there is no support anywhere (except from you) I am going to quit all this nonsence. 169th_Ice was a great help, thanks bro. Starforce hmm, I contacted them Friday no answers from them. Frustration factor is at 10.