outlawal2
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OK so I have been away for some time. Long enough that I have an older version 2.7 maybe? Anyway I try to logon (Which was always set to autologon) and now it asks for a password that I of course don't know. I do know my logon ID and when I select the forgot passowrd link it brings up a browser and says I am already logged in. But this is for the FOTUM and the eSHOP and while it recognizes me there, it will not take that password for the game itself and won't send me a reset password either.
WTF?
Any ideas?
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uys, keep it civil. that goes to all of you. This topic is getting close to the risc of getting closed as many other topics where people pound on a topic ofver and over and over again.
This goes out to @Fri13 @Alec Delorian @outlawal2. What is your point on jumping on every discussion about the gazelle and turn it into a "shit show" each time ? This is more aimed at Fri and Alec!
I keep it professional as much as you let it flow from your side, but at some point, topics get closed because you dive into it over and over and over again. Seriously guys. You guys invest so much time in typing novels of posts, but it seems like you either do not want to read, that the gazelle will be updated, or you simple do ignore it. You rather then talk about the whole Polychop Team, try to convince the community that we are a bunch of idiots and do not know what we talk about, including the team of SMEs we have around constantly for the projects and you neglect that even we as a team and developers evolve and create better stuff.
I am personally sick and tired to constantly see shitshows of single individuals on the forum, which is why I am reading here maybe once per week only. Sorry, but people wonder why I personally do not concider the forum as tier 1 information platfoirm, there you have the reason.
Common sense, and respect shared between eachother should be to common code of conduct, even here. So if you guys do not get this solved, this topic is gettign closed, like so many others. Maybe you realise once, that you hurt the community more then help the community with, from my perspective, some sort of personal vendetta. Please stop this, because as I mentioned it to lines before, it does not help.
Aswell, maybe, as open and honest we are, also not only point fingers at us, but also understand and read aswell what we have stated on multiple platforms.
Sincearly
Sven
CEO/ Lead 3d artist Polychop Simulations
Well I haven't jumped on all kinds fo threads, just this one, and I am not trying to be difficult. Personally, I thought I presented my point of views respectfully and tried to explain why I felt the way I did.
As for the *show* I can't speak as to why others feel it is necessary to insult and ridicule a perfectly reasonable opinion backed by facts and reason.
I only responded to the OP with my own personal opinion, I am sorry that you don't like it.
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uys, keep it civil. that goes to all of you. This topic is getting close to the risc of getting closed as many other topics where people pound on a topic ofver and over and over again.
This goes out to @Fri13 @Alec Delorian @outlawal2. What is your point on jumping on every discussion about the gazelle and turn it into a "shit show" each time ? This is more aimed at Fri and Alec!
I keep it professional as much as you let it flow from your side, but at some point, topics get closed because you dive into it over and over and over again. Seriously guys. You guys invest so much time in typing novels of posts, but it seems like you either do not want to read, that the gazelle will be updated, or you simple do ignore it. You rather then talk about the whole Polychop Team, try to convince the community that we are a bunch of idiots and do not know what we talk about, including the team of SMEs we have around constantly for the projects and you neglect that even we as a team and developers evolve and create better stuff.
I am personally sick and tired to constantly see shitshows of single individuals on the forum, which is why I am reading here maybe once per week only. Sorry, but people wonder why I personally do not concider the forum as tier 1 information platfoirm, there you have the reason.
Common sense, and respect shared between eachother should be to common code of conduct, even here. So if you guys do not get this solved, this topic is gettign closed, like so many others. Maybe you realise once, that you hurt the community more then help the community with, from my perspective, some sort of personal vendetta. Please stop this, because as I mentioned it to lines before, it does not help.
Aswell, maybe, as open and honest we are, also not only point fingers at us, but also understand and read aswell what we have stated on multiple platforms.
Sincearly
Sven
CEO/ Lead 3d artist Polychop Simulations
MODS:
Are you going to delete this post due to 1.1 as well?
Asking for a friend
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I don't care alec, indeed, my initial post wasn't aimed at you, and anyway my point wasn't about gazelle was about helicopters as group. And I don't discuss something that is going to be changed and less with people that are not SA-342 pilot.
Cheers
Then don't
Buh Bye
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Will it also fix the totally overdone sensitivity of the cyclic? Will it also fix the continous roll behaviour with just a bit of left or right cyclic input that makes it fly like a plane with wings and ailerons? Why didn't that irritate you all over the years?
Well I can tell you that the sensitivity doesn't really bother me because every helicopter I have ever piloted has been EXTREMELY sensitive to inputs so I leave that one alone.
I can tell you that the sensitivity of the Robinson R22 is so severe that during training my instructor told me to stop trying to move the cyclic to go in the direction I wanted. He said to simply THINK about moving the cyclic and you would get it. And that worked, but it took a long time to get used to it.
So I can't say if the sensitivity is accurate for a Gazelle, but I can say that that aspect of the model is certainly possible so I don't include it in my personal issues I have with the Gazelle.
The roll behavior to me is strange as well..
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@outlawal2:
A helicopter will fly straight in no wind conditions as soon it is perfectly trimmed out. There are even videos on youtube where you can see such as evidence. I have seen one video where a father flys with his teen son a bell47 and he has no hands on the controlls for 2 or 3 minutes in the video or if he did corrections, he did a small input and hed the cyclic rest in its trimmed position again without touching anything. To add ontop, the guy had some gust winds aswell. After having seen this video over a year ago, I called one of the SMEs and asked him if this would be possible with the kiowa warrior aswell, guess his answer?
His answer was, if the Kiowa Warrior would have been perfectly trimmed, and no external forces like wind, would push the helicopter out of its trimmed position, it would fly in a straight level line until the engine runs out of fuel, which is roughly 8% of remaining fuel, where the fuelpump is not able to suck the remaining fuel out of the gastank.
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That would be true if you could ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY get trimmed out so that you are ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY lined up with the tracks. IN REAL LIFE that is absolutely impossible to do. This is exactly the point. No matter how awesome a pilot you are, there will be SOME kind of variance to your lineup and eventually the helicopter will veer away from the tracks at some point. You could not line the helicopter up so perfectly that you could leave it as-is for 8 hours straight and have it never veer from the tracks, but you CAN with the Gazelle.
I give up. Apparently I am not capable of describing what the issues are eloquently enough for folks to understand what I am saying.
Please enjoy your module.
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Are we all flying the same Gazelle here ? the one I fly will crash if left hands off for any period of time.
You do realise it has SCAS don't you ?
And that is an interesting statement as (Yes I do realize that) but then you say that yours will crash if left hands off any period of time so what is your point regarding SCAS?
Based on your statement of SCAS that should SUPPORT the on rails aspect (Although still not 100% as wind and such will still affect the flight model but does not with the Gazelle.)
So your comment regarding SCAS makes no sense when trying to refute the on-rails aspect of the flight model...
These are the kinds of things that confuse the issue and pulls us further from the point at hand that SCAS or otherwise, the helicopter still does not behave properly.
And I didn't say take your hands off the controls completely, just set them with a bearing and altitude and make no adjustments and you will see that absolutely NOTHING affects your trajectory. Not wind, not the cushion, nothing. Again this is not realistic
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I too have IRL experience on Helos one of which was the Gazelle. Shall we play top trumps???
Have we not already beaten the crap out of this discussion many many many time before????
Yes it has, but people keep asking the questions and other people are still in disagreement.
You say you have actually flown the Gazelle? Now I am intrigued as I did not realize that, must have missed it.
So do you feel that the flight model is an accurate representation of the Gazelle flight characteristics? If yes please explain.
And what is your response to my statements regarding being on rails. Absolutely no way that you can let a helicopter fly pretty much on it's own for miles and miles requiring zero interaction to keep it EXACTLY on course. That is not realistic at all.
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Funny how it is always the same kids saying the same things over and over again......
Funny how this is supposed to be a simulator where the aircraft actually SIMULATES the original. If that is not important to you then why are you here?
I have many games that I enjoy that are completely unrealistic and are just plain "fun" and I don't begrudge anyone that option. And for the record, if you enjoy playing DCS and the Gazelle is fun for you then great, and more power to you. Please enjoy it! But here, on the DCS forum, a platform dedicated to the accurate simulation of an airframe, I cannot recommend the Gazelle or any other offering from Polychop for the reasons already outlined.
I am not telling you what you should do or like, I am answering a question regarding whether I feel that Polychop has provided an accurate simulation of helicopter flight and my opinion is no. And I have real flight time in real helicopters and I have given my reasons above. I would think that some real world experience would be of interest to folks looking for an opinion but you may take my advice or leave it, your choice.
If you want an accurate simulation of helicopter flight, buy any of the other modules available. they are all very different from each other but I feel are fair representations of each and feel close enough to real helicopter dynamics. (Not the damage model, or any other unrelated items, just the FEEL of the flight model)
For all of you folks that enjoy the Gazelle, good for you. Please enjoy it as the whole point is to have fun and enjoy what we have.
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I will expand on what FRI13 said..
The issue is a physics issue with their flight model.
An example is an experiment I tried with the Gazelle vs the Huey.. I found a long straight train track on one of the maps and flew the Gazelle about 50 feet above the tracks setting my heading exactly down the tracks and let it fly. Several minutes later and with zero input from me, the Gazelle was still heading exactly down the tracks as when I started. EXACTLY same heading and altitude etc. This is impossible and is an example of the "On Rails" (PUN WAS intended by the way) feel and response of the airframe.
Try that in the Huey and it is difficult to MAKE the damn thing hold a perfect heading / altitude for more than about 10 seconds and THIS is accurate. A helicopter IRL feels like an air hockey puck and any and all forces such as wind have a very noticeable effect on it. Running for days on end with no variation is not realistic and is a classic sign of scripting vs modeling.
Gazelle feels "SYNTHETIC" compared to any other module and does not feel realistic at all, and this has nothing to do with curves and everything to do with an incomplete flight model.
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Shouldn't we give a Polychop a new change if Kiowa Warrior turns to be good, or at least acceptable? Hoping that they can then fix Gazelle too later?
I am willing to give a second chance, but not a third....
Absolutely! But not until AFTER Kiowa has been released and reviewed.
I won't be purchasing Kiowa until other folks that have voiced similar concerns about the flight model have reviewed it and given a thumbs up.
Nothing is ever set in stone, but I personally will require some serious progress in the flight model area to turn my opinion around.
If the Kiowa comes out and knocks it out of the park I will be the first in line to point it out and give them the rave reviews they deserve.
But not until it is proven. And until they fix their issues my opinion remains that I will stay away from Polychop and recommend others do as well.
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Its funny, people complaining about the gazzelle have no idea how to fly a chopper IRL...
Every chopper pilot I know says its not perfect but hardlly THAT bad...
Then aggain armchair pilots wannabe think they are more hardcore than the real thing LOL..
Yes I will buy the Kiowa.
I enjoy the Gazelle for what it is.
Wrong Baco, I have flown helicopters in real life and the flight model of the Gazelle is simply WRONG. I gave up trying to debate the issues long ago as people refuse to listen, but I do step in periodically to point out that yes we are still here, and no the flight model is not correct... No matter how many times folks try to say otherwise.
And it is bad enough that I will not purchase or recommend Polychop products again.
Period.
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Good afternoon!
Komodo Simulations makes some great controls for sims and the one I have been waiting for are the Black Shark cyclic and collective. Komodo has been working on the design for some time but has not been able to get accurate dimensional data for them.
Is there anyone here that might have this information or access to the airframe itself so we can get the data to Komodo so he can finish the controls?
I know this is a longshot but if any community MIGHT have a contact it would be this one!
Anyone have access to the Shark controls?
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Good afternoon!
Komodo Simulations makes some great controls for sims and the one I have been waiting for are the Black Shark cyclic and collective. Komodo has been working on the design for some time but has not been able to get accurate dimensional data for them.
Is there anyone here that might have this information or access to the airframe itself so we can get the data to Komodo so he can finish the controls?
I know this is a longshot but if any community MIGHT have a contact it would be this one!
Anyone have access to the Shark controls?
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Just uninstall these **** antivir programs, youre way safer without. The only thing they give you is false positives and a false feeling of safety.
Riiight! And I'll bet you don't vaccinate your kids either.
Both are GREAT suggestions! :cry:
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You betcha.
I love DCS, where else is a 59 yr old color blind guy gonna do carrier ops :pilotfly:
HeHe... 50 here and can relate to that feeling!
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Then don't buy Early Access..
PLEASE
It really is that simple.
Your welcome
(But no one will listen and we will have constant bitching about it until the end of time)
Because that will solve everything
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No
Because most of the aircrafts in DCS are GEN IV and also some GEN III..
Having a GEN IV+ or GEN V aircrafts would be unbalanced compared to the others!
In addition, aircafts of this génération are classified trade secret and military secret !!
BALANCE should never be a consideration for a new module. In the real world new planes are built and they obsolete older ones and the cycle continues.
For DCS, BALANCE issues should be addressed at the multiplayer SERVER level, not whether a module should or should not be created.
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DCS is a fantastic platform that is heading in the right direction since the time of LOMAC. This being said, what would you like to see in DCS World 3.0 to consider it a "new release" of DCS World. Passing from 2 to 3, would indeed require some major changes.
Please do not add new aircraftt. This thread is about the world itself.
To consider it a new release, here is what I would personally like to see in.
1. A Dynamic Campaign.
2. A completely overhauled illumination engine, letting us finally fly at night in all its glory.
3. Vulcan API
4. A completely overhauled weather system.
5. A new ATC.
6. Few dozens civilian units (AI), to add contents for the mission creators.
What is your take?
YEP!
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Don't even start with the "balance the sides out evenly" That is what scenario and server ops are for.
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This is the kind of elitist BS that has killed the entire genre and why there are only a few companies left that cater to it.
Much like the other folks you work with, mind your own business and don't worry about what others are doing. Enjoy your simulation the way YOU want to. And let everyone else enjoy it the way THEY want to.
I really get tired of other folks telling me how I should enjoy my DCS... Or anything else in my life.
Your opinion is YOUR opinion. Don't make the mistake of believing that it means anything at all to anyone else.
Fly your plane and don't worry about the rest of us..
Thanks!
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Too bad I guess.
Well aren't we just the Ray of sunshine..
Seriously, I don't understand why you even bothered to reply
Next time please don't waste any of our time and just keep scrolling..
Thanks!
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LOVE the P-38 but I think I would have to ask for the ZERO... With the attending carrier as well as Hawaii map... for obvious reasons!
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I do IT for a living ( not being an ass just letting you know where my information comes from ) I can tell you CPU does require activation. :)
Yep, I do too, and I wasn't sure if it did or not.. (We don't do ANY CPU updates here in Manufacturing..)
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Login Password issues
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Finally received a reset link and got things sorted. thanks.
Just trying to run al of the updates and such now...