Tom73

Got FC 3 and F86 etc but only care about Reno and Must"(s)tangs" :) Many thanks Lilkiki and snowsniper! This in fact is the only thing I loved to do as I am a Reno Racing fan and maybe one day with the F-15 as well.:D Fly the TF51. Cheers Tom

Edit, aka PS: I would like to close the slightly frustrated above post with the following comment: If there is a modder or 3rd party gent willing to give this cockpit some extra love with minor 3D adjustments I am willing to fully support with all the references I can come up with and maybe help with some extra on top in form of a minor front glass texture mod. Did the same for a Sabre pit in IL-2 and do not know why it should not be possible here. I think I will buy this segment as it's simply my favourite jet next to 2 Mach 1-2 capable jets.:thumbup: Cheers Tom (That might easily be my last Sabre post anywhere lol .. )

:music_whistling: Hi chaps, after an extended break from sim forums (former IL-2 modder/forum admin etc.) I decided to come back to simming as more or less very silent member. The F-86, along the P-51 and F-5 family and the 104s is my favourite object of desire. Been such a nerd, must have watched literally every video on the Sabre I could get a more or less thorough search result on the YouTube Google arena. What I totally like about DCS Sabre videos is the outside 3D smoothness and the FM as far as I watched videos, not yet dived into fast speed videos. What all the years prevented me was the pit. Frankly, even with the front armor glass fix available, I do not like it at all.:huh: What IMHO is fully wrong is the canopy frame aspect and proportion, too wide in relation to height, too thick in comparison to the front panel and well...the front armor glass, speaking about later Sabre models from E onwards incl. Canadair Sabres and Avons...is wrong. This is what I had hoped for...I'm a aware there is already a plethora of related shots, videos, threads with similar topic content here.. Made myself a modded IL-2 F-86 pit mod as well, but for obvious reasons and since I can't code or model 3D for cookies...won't help me here lol. So, in closing the request /topic and annyoance...I would like to ask if the pit might one day sooner or later get a revisit in the 3D shape area, rest seems well...except the mirror, same as above, wrong ratio and rest is cool.. Thanks for reading. Cheers T

The F-5E shots make me fully rethink my attitude of not flying DCS...awesome.:thumbup: Must get new HD soon. Seriously, IMO DCS is the future of simming, not matter where you come from.

PS: That preview video looks damn hot.

Sorry, but that I have to comment since the F-5E is the only reason atm I may come back to DCS when the full bird is released: The F-5 does not look at all like a Mig-21. In fact, I liked to fly the Mig-21 in another sim, especially loved the cockpit, but never got really over its ugly outside.:megalol: Except for PF and F versions. Carry on gents, see you at a later point. F-5A/B/Es//T-38s are my favoruite jets along with the F-104C/G/S. Cheers

F-5E Aggressor skins. Nough said.

To revive an old thread: IMHO, what is also more needed is a remesh of the front canopy section and windshield. This very old and slightly edited shot of one of 3 modded IL-2 Sabres IMHO-despite its age, shows exactly what the DCS mode lacks, despite that the DCS looks in general rule wayy more: Center tint, stronger windshield front etc...rest in this shot, yep, not perfect but quite nice thanks to the original pit. Pit was by Freedy, mod for center + 3D mesh etc by other artists. In this arcade module, I got 3 F-86 versions, one black, one grey/white with black panels and one early black F-86A style. Well, just a shot, the FOV/POV is slightly corrupted as in that sim it is mobile and dynamic by (my) choice. ... :megalol: on my attempts to necromonger old threads. :) Greetings, Ton

As little off topic, the P-38-especially in the Pacific war areas, is one of the most impressive fighters. My favourite Prop aircraft, the "L" and "J" variants. That plane in a high fidelity environment is a dream as for sounds, class and beauty..in the Pacific, as opposed to the ETO, it was very successfull thanks to its engines rather performing in warm climates. The highest scoring PTO aces flew P-38s.

He is 100% correct. See also please my post here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2136661#post2136661 Self quoting that post (lol, self quotes suck :cry: ) See the pics and comments. The pics are F-86Fs, Canadair Sabre 4/5/6s..which have the same shape. Only the "H" model sported a different shap again. Also the frame to panel ratio and frame thickness is off. And so on, see my post... Videos [YOUTUBE] [/YOUTUBE]

..he has the correct picture.:smilewink:

PS: This is not to spoil anyone's fun. Rather my personal wish, I will mainly fly the P-51D in DCS and atm I am out of the loop ATM anyway. Yet the front windshield struts e.g. are a trademark Sabre thing and thus cool to have historical. What I find awesome is that the Belsimtek Sabre seems to have the correct mirror position and shape (a first for a released sim/mod) and the bomb markings nicely done. I wish you good Luck with this. If my posts are in any way offending, I am sorry. Carry on..and if you need more video links, pm me, think I found all cockpit videos I could get on the usual net via YouTube. Cheers men

I would like to add one comment which I previously tried to forward via pm and which got no feedback: The F-86 front cockpit section, as nicely as the cockpit sure is done, has some inconsistency as for the shapes, compared to RL videos and screens I collected over the years: Check the front windshield shape and thickness and the overall canopy thickness on the frame and compare e.g. to the Belsimtek version. First best (or worst for the matter) shots I gathered from my resource folder. Canadair MK.4 F-86F-35 Canadair MK.5 with MK.6 wings and Orenda 13 aka Hawk One F-86F The text here was off topic, not for this thread. Of course the canopy looks different when opened, but even on closed shots it is not that thick as modelled here for usage with DCS. The front windshield bars on any version look different. On any "F" versions, The shape converges at the top aka makes a slight curve inward with a further shape change on the top. It looks nothing like the Belsimtek version. I could show 2-6 videos documenting this as for canopy and front screen Of course these cockpits shown here have been stripped down except the vintage default MK.4 one. F versions And so on..good testament to my point also

Couldn't agree less. :pilotfly: Will most prolly skip the F-86s in favour of the Mig-21 here, but the F-86 is definately my favourite jet next to F-104s and F-5s, F-16 and Tomcat. The Mig-21 IS ugly, but it is also a beast and a marvel. Well, taste....everybody has one.:D

Fair enough.:) Maybe give the front windshield struts a bit more thickness. The preview image looked a bit fish eye proportioned. Then again, it's a WIP and I wish good fun for you chaps. :thumbup: