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3 hours ago, Lurker said:
Did the HUD on the Hind display any kind of targeting cues from the R60? If that was the case then in case of a missile lock-on, the pilot could theoretically get guns and other weapons to bear on the target, which would otherwise be almost invisible in the night. Sort of like a poor man's FLIR.
Dont remember the Piper is even following where the R-60 is actually looking in the Su-25. But think that would be hell of a work to align the Gun with the R-60 Piper and hit something in the Distance at Night. Even dont know the Gun Point of impact is showed together with the R-60 Piper. Think they fired the Missile waiting for hopefully impact something usefull and launched afterwards the Rest of the Armament at the Point of the Fireball from the R-60. Think only whats matter to even use the R-60 is the surprise Factor. Afterwards they could still use some Illumination Flares or smillar like this.
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They discuesed this some Time ago in the Russian Forum. After the Hind didnt have any night Capability, was more a emergency Solution to track the Target Heat sources at night in the Afghanistan War. But was rather poor Solution and only so far i remember only possible in some certain Climate and Temperature Spectrum with the Hind nearly running in the Target before the R-60 would Track anything. Would not expect to much from the R-60 against Ground Targets.
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Only minor side Note, US Planes are equipped with Trim Tabs (no Hydraulics,exept from the P-38) small surfaces in the Rudder deflect in the oposite Position of the Rudder to support and overcome the Forces created from the slipstream. And the Fw-190 was very well devloped in this regards, it uses sophisticated lever Arms and Bearings to reduce the Rudder Load not to suffer the same Problems as the 109.
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Ka-50 is more survivable Platform in my Mind then the Mi-24 in some ways, they also learned from the past....there is no Tail Rotor with Gearbox and Drive Shaft for example, what still achilles Vers on modern Helicopters. The Turbine Engines are seperated from each other with some more Space and Armor in between to get not knocked out by single hit witch is in the MI-24 a good Possiblity.
But all in all the MI-24 is combat proven Design, and hover and Destroy as many Targets is a DCS thing when you look after Syria the Ka-52 did the same Hit & Run Tactics witch is more easy with the Ka-50 with this Helm Mounted side and a big FOV compare to narrow field of View Periscope from the MI-24.
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Would say shooting in hover was only impractical, 30 mm with his Barrel Lenght is a heavty Caliber and mounted on the Side of the Fuselage. Would assume in hover there is not enough directional Stability to fire gun without the complete Heli turns sideways from the Blast.
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Wie gesagt Reisegeschwindigkeit ist auch das was Nirvi oben Beschrieben hat 1.1 ATA, um so schneller die Maschine wurde um so mehr Kraft war Richtung "Drücken" wie im Test. Die DCS K4 hat auch +2 Trimmung Nasenlastig, aber das wird halt aufgezert durch die Schwerpunktverlagerung der K4 durch den Methanol Tank.
Irgedwo im Text steht auch da Sie die letzten Flugmanöver mit Abschwung eingeleitet haben, also halbe Rolle und "ziehen"...
Btw. die Trimm Eigenschaften wurden später anhand eines deutschen Dokumentes bestimmt, früher war es das russische 2015 oder so und war es noch viel Unangenehmer gerade aus zu Fliegen weil die Messergebnisse ungenauer waren.
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@Jafferson
Hier ist der Test dazu zum selber nachlesen....
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/me109/Me_109_Dive_Test.pdf
Der Spielraum der Trimmung in der 109 ist einfach limitiert, aus dem Grund das die Kiste sonst bei Nasenlastiger Trimmung nicht mehr aus dem Sturz abfangen kannst weil die Handkraft nicht ausreicht zum Ziehen. Das nichts zu tun was an der Flossenverstellung möglich wäre, und im gegensatz zu DCS war die Trimmung fast nicht mehr beweglich bei Hochgeschwindigkeit. Einfach ein Sicherheitsaspekt das sich die Piloten nicht umbringen konnten.
Keine Trimtabs an den Steuerflächen wie die P-51 z.B um die Kraft aufzubringen.
Und nachdem der Auschlag richtung Nasenlastig gleich geblieben ist, hat der MW-50 Tank bestimmt nicht geholfen im Heck der 109
Und im umkehrschluss wenn du die voll Nasenlastig Trimmst ist auch nichts mehr mit großartig G-Ziehen im Dogfight weil der Ausschlag des Höhenruder nur noch minimal ist, kannst selber ausprobieren...
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The AI is allways go in a slow Speed Turn Fighting, thats where the MIG is a little bit stronger with his better Climb Rate. But against a proper Flown F-86 in the most cases it is a Steelmate. Most F-86 Pilots will unlikley go in a close Dogfight and they can Engage/Disengage when they want. F-86 is faster without doing a Headstand at Mach 0,95 and can do high substain G Maneuvers without Blackout you are not able to follow or you have to tab allways the Speed Brake. MIG 15 nearly requires Teamwork or Surprise.
Was able to secure one Kill in a Dogfight on the Korea Server on the Weekend but most cases was 15 Min of lurking around on top of each other.
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Dont know why some of you so keen of flying around with additional MW50 Tank that probably add again 200 kg on the Netto Weight of the 190 even make the Handling worse, so why you need this?
190 was allready running on high Octane C3 Fuel compare to the B4 from the 109
There is not the tienest bit of Information out there the 190 was ever flying with MW-50. (exept Wikipedia not a source)
When exactly they use C3 Fuel injection or not is little bit obscure
More the Controversy all written towards the end of the War: MW50 dont needed C3 was enough
Fw-190A9 Engine with 1,82 ATA again running without MW50
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Es gibt einen test zu Hochgeschwindigkeitsversuchen mit der Me-109, eine F-Version die während des Testes auf G-Stand gebracht wurde. Bedenke die G-Version hatte noch keinen 115 Liter Methanol Tank hinter dem Schwerpunkt. Wurde auch viel mit der Bügelkante während des Test am Höhenruder probiert, die Option haben wir nicht in DCS. In dem Fall würde ich sagen war Flugleistung vor Handling Eigenschaften und Komfort des Piloten.
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21 hours ago, Northstar98 said:
Yeah, I mean the SA-9 is essentially just as old, and in DCS hasn't got much in the way of countermeasure resistance.
Yes, though I was mistaken, it entered service in the mid-80s, but on the 9P149 ATGM vehicle. It looks like the Mi-24 was early 90s, at least according to the Russian wiki, and this airwar.ru.
I imagine that by the 90s IR SAM systems had superseded the capabilities of Lipa.
I will say however, that the difference between a mid-70s Mi-24P and an early 90s one is basically nothing AFAIK apart from 9M120 compatibility (I'm not sure what modernisation efforts or upgrades had to be made to facilitate the missile).
And at least on early access the Mi-24P will be as it appeared in it's Soviet state (just without the IR jammer).
One thing that's interesting me about the 9M120, is will we see it in multiple variants, besides the regular tandem-HEAT? the 9M120F has a thermobaric warhead (though might not be useful without appropriate weapon effects (I don't mean graphical), or damage modelling), but one variant I'm interested in is the 9M220O which has a proximity fuse and an expanding rod warhead, suitable for engaging helicopters. The Vikhr system we have the Ka-50 is capable of the same thing AFAIK.
The Missiles as you mentioned and Engine's will be probably also Klimov TW3-117 VM, (High-alt Modernized) compare to the Soviet used the V Version in the 80s.
This are that indicates a early Russian Version, but even 90s there are so many possible Scenarios where the LIPA are still Thing, think ED can not convince me every non Military Organisation that was Fighting for example in Caucasus/chechnya was able to get there Hands on brand new IGLA's Manpads. That time Russian millitary was not able self to afford such Things.
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Lipa ("Липа") jammer will not be implemented. Alex claims that this system is outdated, hasn't been installed on any Mi-24P for many years, and is useless in DCS (doesn't have any suitable threats).
That's again make's no sense at all, by 2021 the Russian Army knows it self there former Soviet MI-24P are not any more up to Date and try to Replace/Update it so far the Rubels rolls. After we getting a Modul that's pargon is soviet MI-24 as it roled from the Factory 1984, what hinders me to make 1985 Mission in DCS where the Lipa was brand new and effective in its Role?
So far read only excuse with dont want to make it? After the IR seaker are redone whats about we make LIPA and bring late one some Threads in form of Redeye and Strela/Stinger first Generation?
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5 minutes ago, YoYo said:
No, this version isn't what you think. This A-8 was still good fighter for dogfight too. Perhaps you think about more armored version A-8/R8 Sturmbock. The problem is that the model loses energy in flight too quickly, so even the heavy P-47 is able to outmaneuver it with ease (or maybe the volatile properties of P-47 are too good here and this is a mistake?). The A-8 in the IL-2 BoX series has a better balance compared to other planes and is a good competitor with proper flying technique. You don't feel it here. The parameters are ok (apart from a few things like temp. of oil, radiator, unlimeted 2700+ rpm ect), but as I wrote, I mean a very quick loss of energy during even gentle turns vs other DCS WW2 planes. I will try to show turning time between D-9 and A-8 in DCS and the speed loss level at the output at the same input.
The A8 realy suffer from it's take off Weight, its heavyer then D9 with less Power. The Handling suffers compare to earlier Anton Versions, the late A4 for example have the same Horsepower then our A8 +600kg additional Takeoff Weight. (Aux Fuel Tank, Armor). Currently the Plane with the highest Wingload in DCS, the P-47 have less Wingload (support slow climbs and slow Turnfights) that what matters. And so far i remember IL-2 uses for Clmax 1.56 without Flaps (your max Lift Coefficient) what is out of from the Fairy Tale hours, dissicused allready alot here.
Take callculater and compare the Takeoff weights and the Wingload between P-47 and Fw-190, but less Wingload in the Fw-190 you will outurn him, but thats not a usual Combat Scenario. Keep the Speed high above 300kmh dont make harsh high AOA Turns with alot of G.
Would preffer also A8 without outboad Wingmounted 20mm cannons to reduce the WIngload, often done by Front Units but this will affect the FM Rollrate think would be again rewritten Flight Model, so not gone happen.
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1 hour ago, NineLine said:
I'd need to see a track of this, I can loop the Dora a number of times with no issues.
Hey as said was two Patches before end of December i asume, where the Engine was after 2 Loops gone. The Fuel Pressure is now stable again works fine your Ninja Fix, but the Random Engine Size as in my Track was before the Fuel Pressure Drop thing and is still Present. Two different things to clarify.
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Still there, after 33 Mins the Engine Quit. Normandy Dogfight Mission after Fighting the P-51 simple flying around.
Replay checked, should be working but the File is to big to share here...
https://www.file-upload.net/download-14426251/LastMissionTrack.trk.html
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1 hour ago, amazingme said:
Is it 'normal' behavior? I know that Dora has engine driven fuel pumps and an additional booster pump for each tank.
Thats true was not able to loop 2 Times without Engine sizure, but since last Patch is gone...tryed no serval Times the Normandy Dogfight Mission and the Engine was holding pretty well together...but thats is not enough Testing that randomly Dora Engine failures now complete gone...was not flying to mutch Dora in the past...
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Some sort of LOD Problem, the Dora have the same Problem and switching between different Paintschemes of the Propeller Spinner...
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Is not supposed the RWR SPO-10 System that he talks trough as IFF Transponder at @36:46 for example?
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3 hours ago, Ala13_ManOWar said:
Glad to read for once somebody who remembers the whole story
. You're damn right we were lucky enough the B-17 threshold wasn't reached, despite I crave to see one in DCS some day I can't imagine what kind of mess that would have been, not feasible multicrew wise, let alone the Boeing license cost and that if they allow it for whatever reason they invent…
That's the reason why I pledged exactly 1$, I wanted to be a part of it but didn't trust Luthier whatsoever after previous messes he made… And yet, in the end it was a blessing ED took over the project so now we have the wonderful quality available in warbirds.S!
Good dam we getting old, think the Money raised by Luthier was not enough for one seriouly working DCS Plane. After failing the Project ED took over it. Only Plane what doesnt come from the raised Found was P-51. Was home Project from some ED Members. At least Luthier kicked the Door open for WW2. Only little bit sad about Me-262 from technical Standpoint to fly the first Jet Fighter, but the Combat expierince is rather Boring.
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The Test only give Temprature on the Peak Oil Temperature, either Level Flight or Climb in 6,5Km. For Climbs Cooling Flaps on Position 3, for Levels Flights in 6,5km Cooling Flaps closed. Air Density start to fall of, therefore overpressure in the Engine Compartmant drops Temprature is rising.
On Ground Level cylinderhead Temprature is only 165 Degree so 70 Degrees Oil is plausibel, on 6,5 Km the cylinderhead Temp is near 220 Degree and 85 to 90 Degree.
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@Razo+r Where you found this 3 Minutes for the A8 dont know...actually they give permission for 10 Minutes increased Emergency Power for 1,58/1.62 how this worked out when the Engine blows after 3 Minutes on 1,42 ATA? Was perfectly fine still with the Emergncy Power in Limits, this overall will decrease the Lifetime of the Engine in Hours not Minutes but will not blow immediately the Engine in to Pieces.
Bevor the Update Oil Temperature was to low and Oil Pressure allways high thats right, but after the Update the Engine is working Spot on.
Tested that my self few Minutes ago, full Power Climb 6,5 Km where the Engine reached its Peak between 85 and 90 Degree Oil Temperature on full Throttel Altitude.
Cooling FLaps Position 3.
Same goes for Full Power Level Flight, reached its peak by same Oil Temperatur with Cooling Flaps Closed.
Test for Engine Temperatur with Increased Emergency Power with Detailed Settings.
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/fw190/BMW_VB_126.pdf
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12 minutes ago, Hobel said:
Ist sowas wie Hercules nicht sowieso schwierig, es können in dcs doch nur 3 Triebwerke simuliert werden?
Wie kommst da drauf Hobel? Hab ich irgendwie bis jetzt noch nie gehört?
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Hi Caponi,
Kopflastig Trimmen +1 oder 1.5, und die Landeklappen auf 20 Grad ausfahren. Dan hast einen butterweichen Start.
Im ersten moment ist man geneigt zu denken Klappen machen alles noch viel Schlimmer, aber das stimmt nicht.
Weil durch das ausfahren der Klappen verändert sich der Auftriebspunkt am Flügel und die 109 wird Nasenlastig.
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It took me while to find something, but Photo in the starting Post is from the maintenance Manual (Aircraft Overview). General overview of the Aircraft for the Ground crew for Inspection where you can find everywhere in there Internet. But in there is no written Pilot Instruction in it how to use the Aircraft or this case how you start up the A8 or even when to use the Primer Pump. In German the Pilot Manual is called Operating Instructions (Bedienvorschrift). What is basicly hard to come by. Basicly the same for K4 or and A8, the Engines are Fuel Injected dont require ignitable mixture like the Merlin for the Start up to soak up the Fuel from the Carburetor. Only thing is Fuel start to Condense on Piston Walls at low Temprature, there for is the Priming Pump in the A8 as the K4 to get a ignitable Fuel Mixture at low Temp.
After some thoughts where to search came across BMW 801 Engine Data Card with Operating Instructions:
Bellow 5 Degrees 2-4 Priming and under 15 Degrees 6 Times, little bit low what NineLine reported, but Priming a Engine is not exact sience
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Der Mi-24P Diskussionsthread
in Deutsch
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Q2 kann nicht schnell genug kommen, freu mich schon tieriesch darauf über die Steppen von Syrien zu brettern..