Dirty Rotten Flieger

I have been learning to fly it in offline mission against AI MiG21 .The AI sticks to the vertical and the 21 out climbs and out dives the Mirage. But the Mirage is surprisingly good at low speed, high alpha. Very close match to the MiG21 it this regard. Looking forward to multiplayer Mig21 v Mirage F1 . I love how the Mirage engine flames out when I fly through jet wash at close range ... This should maybe be a feature of all early jet engines in DCS ?

I usually try to only bind the controls actually on the real stick and throttle and use the mouse in my left hand to flip switches in the cockpit. Lefty mousing was awkward at first but I'm used to it now. The F1 has almost no HOTAS and some of the controls needed for dog fighting are hidden from view on the left side .I imagine the pilot would use these by feel with training . Obviously this can be a disadvantage online if my opponent has bound everything in his F1 like an F-16 HOTAS but I like to think this captures the some of the character of the older planes I like flying. If that means dying head down in the cockpit looking for switches then so be it. Do you guys do this? Or is this just going too far?

Toggle option please

Are we there yet? It's 12.42 am on the 22 july here in Australia.

It's laughable to quote a 1968 definition of FBW in 2022 and think that all modern definitions are wrong. The presence of the computer is why we are even talking about it . If the signals are transmitted by wire instead of physical means then it will fly roughly the same way anyway. If the pilot pulls too hard and drops a wing that will happen either way. But a computer between the pilot and the surfaces will intervene to stop the stall. If there is no computer the F1, it will not fly like any other DCS FBW plane. I love FFB. The Mig21 going supersonic... I chop throttle and pull into a turn. The FFB changes as the plane goes trans sonic. I don't have to look at the dial to know I just went through 1.2 mach. So much nuance is lost giving up FFB. It amazes me so many fly without it. I guess I only really fly the older non FBW planes. FFB is much richer in the older planes. Of course I will be disappointed if FFB is not working in Mirage F1 on release.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I was in F-14-a, wings out, hook up to cat.... I regularly get it to work but I made my own mission and it just won't let me go. Does any one even know what the "no go" signal means. He wave it back and forward.

I have been playing with the Super carrier offline. Much more to it than I expected. But the Yellow shirt Director works fine till my plane is ready for launch and then won't give the sign to spin up t he engine. He instead waves a no go signal with he hand low back and forth. This signal is not even in the Docs... What can I do? Salute , shift U, don't work and no explanation of why.

Gee I hadn't even considered that possibility that it is deliberately limited. I assume that kind of limiting is usually in elevator but I don't know that with any certainty. I did some practice offline against an AI F-5E and I see that in a typical manoeuvring fight I am often slowed down enough that the rudder isn't totally locked up the way it is when flying straight at top speed. So it's not as bad as I thought in practice. Still it is hard to aim the gun at high speed.

I'm aiming with my eyes only. I haven't worked out the radar ranging. My shooting is generally quite good in most planes. But I tend too like flying with rudder rolls at high alpha. Flying a plane where I can't to that means I gotta learn to aileron roll to shoot I guess. It is normal for the rudder to practically lock up at high speed in the mig 19 isn't it?

I'm trying to spend a bit of time in the Farmer on Cold war server. I want to like the plane but the lack of rudder authority at typical fighting speeds really makes it hard to aim those cannons. The rudder works fine at low speeds but once I am high sub sonic where I need to be to fight I can barely aim. So is this because the rudder has no hydraulic booster like the ailerons do. I assume that's what happening. Anyone know of real life sources saying the rudder is that bad? Am I doing something wrong? Did I forget to press the switch that makes the rudder work? Did the Russians pilots do leg press for training?

I hadn't realised the r530 was meant for killing bombers. That makes sense. I was thinking of this F1 as a rival of the Mig23 but a closer look at the specs reveal that the F1 only has engine power closer to the Mig21. And the Mig21 bis has emergency AB on top. So this will more typically be flown with 2 or 4 Sidewinders if the r530 are not gonna do much against low flying fighters opponent. Heaters, guns and burners. Perfect for Cold war servers. I love that the F1 can fly on red or blue with historical authenticity. Iraqi skins and can red get a new plane.

I'm a fan of bad missiles in DCS. I love a fight where both sides launch multiple missiles and they all miss or are decoyed and the fight goes from longer range missiles, to short range missiles, to guns... Longer fights with lots of weapons deployed are great for game play. Compare that to both sides launching a single BVR Fox3 and going evasive and then both die anyway... How good or bad are the regular 530 compared to the Super 530? How do they compare to the Soviet R23 Mig 23 carried.

7 zip worked. Thankyou

Hey guys I like the bit where he asks if it's two more weeks and gets slapped in the face

It tells me the fix is broken. I can't open it.

The fix is broken too ?

Thanks for the reply. So this is working correctly it seems. I have most of them. It seems to have tripled in size even though I haven't added any new modules. AT least I know it's working correctly now.

I couldn't get the updater to work and eventually I realised that there was not enough space on the SSD for the installation and the download folder within DCS file structure to download the update. So I put DCS on a 500 gig SSD that also has IL2X installed. It had over 120 gig free space, even that was not enough and I had to move it to a 1TB SSD. This is absurd. How big is the DCS folder supposed to be with most of the modules ? 280 gig is what I am seeing now I got it updated to open beta

I just had this happen twice in a row, on final online. Tried testing it off line and nothing went wrong. Is this multiplayer only ?

Just letting you know slider. My problem is definitely a broken SSD... Good luck problem solving yours.

I'm not sure of anything at this point. The same SSD has Escape from Tarkov on it, and it won't start either but I am able to repair EFT. I can't repair DCS maybe because it is over 240 gig. ireaslly don't want to delete it and reinstall as that will take days at the speed it downloads. Is there a way to repair DCS in smaller chunks?

I think found the problem. It seems the SSD DCS is installed on is broken and it's just a coincidence that 2.7 came out. dam. This is a 240 gig download ! and the down loader won't even let us throttle it or pause it ... SMH

Tried to update to 2.7 this morning and can't start the updater. Also can't start DCS either. downloaded a new version of the updater and tried that. Same thing: 00000.190 --- Log file: C:\Users\JC\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS\autoupdate_templog.txt 00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2021-04-15 23:07:48 00000.022 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.11.1.83 (Windows NT 10.0.19041; Win64; en-US) 00000.022 INFO : src-id: 24d5f8ee266f56820c3a2b4568594f68e8dd773e, lib-id: bf64e300edca29ae7ef5ba1d4db27e53a1213fa2 00000.023 INFO : cmdline: "D:\DCS World\bin\DCS_updater.exe" update 00000.145 STATUS: Initializing... 00000.147 INFO : basedir: D:\DCS World\ 00000.190 ERROR: Can't parse config: JSON error: lexical error: invalid char in json text. ÙÕù ¡c× (right here) ------^ 00000.210 INFO : Config contents: --- BEGIN --- ÙÕù ¡c× 00000.210 INFO : Config contents: --- END --- 00000.211 STATUS: JSON error: lexical error: invalid char in json text. ÙÕù ¡c× (right here) ------^ I notice that the address in documents is C:\Users\JC\Saved Games\DCS.openalpha instead of openbeta but this has been mislabelled like that for a long time. I also noticed that the variant doc file in the installation folder had openalpha as variant so I changed that to open beta. I suspect all of this is beside the point anyway... I don't know where json text is ? Also last week I was having trouble with certain maps so tried running full slow repair and it would hang my PC about two third of way through. So I deleted the maps and redownloaded and it worked fine till 2.7. Anyone know where json file is?

Really enjoying playing with the newly fine tuned FM for DCS MiG-21. I found this great resource about the MiG-21 in USAF Aggressor Squadron. It's a really good read for DCS MiG-21 fans and fanatics. The new FM seems to be closer to the test pilots descriptions than it was before. They state: "Even the mighty F-15 Eagle had no solution in dogfight below 150-250 knots against MiG-21 in US Aggressor hands...This way Mig-21 will remain behind every opponent still having sufficient control ability for gun tracking using rudder rolls...It is obvious that US aggressor pilots pulled full aft stick in turn regardless of the lateral oscillations, roll off and temporary loss of control. " I found this hard to believe at first. So I did a bit of testing and with the current FM we can hold back on the stick below 250km/h and use rudder rolls with pretty good control. I tested against F5 tiger... Merge, zoomed climb and at the top, at very slow speed was able to out turn him quite well. Almost like a pedal turn... But the article says the MiG-21 F they had was able to out turn an F-15 like this! It says the Bis model should have good slow speed characteristics too, while not as quite nice as the lighter F . So I tested against an AI F-15 with ace skill. guns only. This is a whole new way to fly the MiG-21 for me. You can see that the F-15 really had me on the defensive and I was able to turn the situation around very quickly using this slow speed high alpha tactics described by USAF Aggressors.

Incase anybody doesn't know about this. We have detailed description from the USAF aggressor pilots use of the MiG-21 at slow speed and high AOA, full aft stick and rudder rolls. That's where I got the idea to try this counter intuitive tactics. Read page 4 -5 "Even the mighty F-15 Eagle had no solution in dogfight below 150-250 knots against MiG-21 in US Aggressor hands...This way Mig-21 will remain behind every opponent still having sufficient control ability for gun tracking using rudder rolls...It is obvious that US aggressor pilots pulled full aft stick in turn regardless of the lateral oscillations, roll off and temporary loss of control. "