Dirty Rotten Flieger

This definitely needs a working volume control. It is way too loud now

I really enjoyed that. :) Thanks for sharing it. "The aircraft is saying, ”Do I have your attention yet? Because in a minute, I will demand all your courage, all your love of country, and a laser focus to fully utilize the forces I am about to reveal to you.”... Most pilots get out of the cockpit after a successful flight with a sheepish look on their face."

I haven't flown the FW190 for a while but if IIRC the indicator has the same degrees for up and down trim. The movable stabilizer does not move the same amount up and down though.

thanks Dingo, Ill try that

I can't install the AJS37 module. It is installed in the beta but my stable install doesn't show it in the modules store or in the installed modules sections. I tried using the updater.exe install {AJS37} command line but it just says: unknown module AJS37 Please help

I deleted the registry and started Open beta and it just opens the Mig21 activation again.

There doesn't seem to be any clear instructions for all the people who patched the Beta, broke the MIg21 and then came here looking for help. I imagine most people would not check Mig21 forum before they patch.

Wow what a mess. When I saw that dam Mig21 activation pop up yet again my left eye started to twitch and my face went red with blood. Tried to stay calm and waste more time trying to understand what the **** is going on and finally realize my DCS short cuts are mislabeled between Beta and stable...for starters. I guess I'll just learn how to delete the registry or something, which leads to a disclaimer that warns doing so may make windows not work. Great. I just wanted to escape the pain of life and fly for a hour. NO SOUP for you!

I suspect that the vortices are always there but in DCS they are visible all the time. The problem is not that they shouldn't be there all the time, but rather that they shouldn't be visible all the time . Looking closely at the canards you can see they are quite a few AoA higher than main wing... I agree it will look better when they are only visible when pulling G or high AOA.

I tried the spring stick simulator but it doesn't seem to work for DCS anymore. I remember using it for the mirage when it first came out and didn't have FFB. Has anybody got it working for the Viggen. NO FFB and broken rudder has made it impossible to enjoy flying the plane. I just been earning start up ect... I should have known this would be the case. but i wanted to believe it would just work lol

Thanks for making this thread. I stayed up till 1:30am so I could try the Viggen but it wouldn't come up on the list of modules and eventually i found the forum threads explaining it was open beta. Which I don't have installed and can't download because i pay for mb. I tried using the 3rd party UI updater but it won't work. I tried making a copy of the install and putting the beta updater in it but that won't work. I read the updater is supposed to copy from your HDD but mine just tries to download again. I accidentally deleted my main folder cause i was getting annoyed and flustered... I have got to completing downloading the beta update but when i start it is is not beta and I can't install the Viggen. Ill try this line in the shortcut target and give up and go to bed I recently got an SSD and I didn't want to download the whole 30gig again so i just copied the DCS folder from the HDD to the SSD. It worked fine since then but i wonder if that is why I am having so much trouble updating to beta now?

Where am I supposed to put that line? I can't get the dam open beta to install with out downloading 30 gig. I pay by the mb I tried copying the folder and putting the beta updater in it but that doesn't work. Stayed up till 2am to fly viggen and I just spending an hour jacking arround trying to install the dam beta without downloading it . Accidentally deleted my main folder and the 3rd party UI updater won't work either... God dam what a bummer :(

So good to see bunyap is doing his thing for Viggen :) Ill watch it now

Good to hear they have gotten rid of the Mig21 copy protection . I had major problems with it. Every second time I loaded DCS it would want to to activate a Mig 21 licence activations. I very quickly ran out of activations and I couldn't fly it until I found the thread with the solution. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=136153

What I have been asking for years is if the Mig21bis radar ground and cloud filters also lower the sensitivity for detecting aircraft? I mean, if the filter didn't lower the detection range for aircraft then the engineers would have no reason to not have it always on... But even if that is true we don't know what if modeled. I guess I could just test the radar detection range against AI with and with pout he filters and see ...

I've been flying that server everyday. Great server. I haven't noticed any difference between the two planes. I recently upgraded from 8 to 16 gig of ram and I highly recommend doing that if you are using 8 gig ram. Online multiplayer was using 9.9 gig. and 8 gig was not enough.

Not so sure this is a bug. Just different systems in different planes The mig21 does not have Fly By Wire, the Su27 does. So maybe the Mig21 is physically linked to the elevator and you can't trim the elevator without moving the stick too. This isn't a problem unless you are trimming the plane while resisting the trim at the same time. Why would you do that? Just let the stick move as you trim the plane. It may be impossible to resist the trim moving the stick in the real mig21. The su 27 is FBW so the stick is not actually connected to the surfaces. As for the Mig15 and the Sabre. The Mig has pre stall shuddering because the stick is physically connected to the tail surfaces but the sabre has hydraulics and a semi flying tail and the aerodynamic forces do not go backward to the stick. no prestall shudder. These different systems may not behave the same with trim. I still don't really see why I would trim the plane and simultaneously hold the stick still so it can't move with the trim. I just loosen my grip a little and let the stick move as I trim. I'll test this though. I love the FFb differences between the different types of planes and their different control solutions.

Just wondering what kind of stick you guys are using. I am using a MS FFB2 and the Mig15 is a hand full but in a delicious way. My stick shakes quite a lot as I am manoeuvring hard at high AOA and the ailerons stop working and the rudder roll reverses at high mach. It is a handful to fly but that's why I like it so much. Are you using a spring stick? I would suggest trying a FFB stick. There are a few planes and especially the choppers that I really didn't like the feel of when I used a spring stick , but once i got a FFB stick they feel great.

I just tried a Mig v Sabre server after a long time away from flying these birds and found the FFB hugely different in the two planes. The Mig 15 stick shakes when the plane starts shaking on the edge of stall and at high altitude and during hard maneuvers it is really a handful. I lost control at high mach and high alt. Then I tried the sabre and it had no stick shaking during hard maneuvers. I thought at first that the sabre was not FFB implemented but this thread clears that up. The difference between these two planes is what makes the match up so interesting. This FFB difference just adds to the relative flavour of each plane.

Thanks I missed that. I like the details. Now I'm wondering if they open automatically or if the pilot could forget to open them and risk a compressor stall right when he is trying to line up a shot .

I was watching the trailer and at about the forty second mark there can be seen two small doors open in front of the gun barrels. What are they ? The only thing I can think of, is that they help direct the gun smoke away from the engine air intakes. Anyone know what they are for?

This is funny. Buddy lazing A10 supports Mirage air to air bomb run ! [ame] [/ame]

Well thanks for all the answers to my question. I've found your responses enlightening. I like the challenge of using SARH missiles. Supersonic jousting game of chicken, who ever flinches first stops supporting their own missile. I didn't use to fly jets because I thought BVR had no interesting tactics or challenges. I was wrong . BVR is quite a chess game. Very fast chess game with G suits. I had assumed that SARH missiles use the same proportional navigation as IR missile and it didn't matter who was illuminating the target. But now you explain that the launching plane is linked to the missile in flight and constantly updating target position I am wondering what happens if I fire two SARH missiles? Does the launch plane give both constant updates or just the last missile fired? Does the missile make the calculations or does the computer on the plane? It is a waste to fire more than one SARH missile at a time? The more I learn the more I realize I have to learn.

You guys seem to be missing the point here. But I appreciate your thoughts. The two radars will not interfere because only one radar is on. This is not a 4 vs 4 tactic. This is a 2 v 1 tactic, or 4 v 2 tactic. When the enemy is armed with F&F aim120. Flight leader has radar on and designates target . Wingman goes forward using data linked target info combined with INS of his launch plane. The missile seeker head simply looks at the illuminated target and flies a course holding the target angle off boresight until impact. Just like it would if the launch plane was illuminating. Now the launch plane can break off and run away immediately after launch which means much less exposure for than flying within radar gimbal limits toward the target. When I thought of this tactic the other day it was like the penny dropped moment for me. I've been trying to learn BVR for SARH against AMRAAM. The flanker would in real life almost never work alone. It would always work in groups and use EVERY tool at their disposal to win. If the flanker has the numbers advantage then this tactic makes sense. If the same level of success can be reached by simply splitting the su27 pair and attacking the enemy from different directions then, fair enough, that is what they train for. But I would never know unless I asked and for all I know flanker pilots were trained to support each others missiles. When I think about it though. Splitting and attacking from two directions means that the F15 will launch an aim120 at both flankers and both or either of them will have to maintain lock with an incoming aim 120... So your way both flankers in danger vs my way only one in danger, The one in danger is free to evade and the one holding lock is out of range.

I don't mind the conversation expanding . I'm happy to learn about similar tactics and equipment. There are many cases where a spotter designates the target and another platform launches the weapon. It is common practice for air to ground weapons.