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Where is the file??? SinandGrin, I was interested in the thumbnail print thinking it could be customized to my rendition of the DCS A10C profile but clicking on the "here" pointer it went nowhere. Is it still posted somewhere I can access?

How do you get an 8-way POV in the TARGET GUI setup After frustrations with an aging Saitek X55 PRO I bequeathed it to my grandson and blew $400 on a Thrustnmaster Warthog HOTAS. So far, the gain in control stability has been worth the wallet drain. However, with the limited hours I have gaming I have been having difficulty getting a profile set up that satisfies needs. I am concentrating on the P51 Mustang in DCS, can't justify TRACKIR yet, and some how have lost a couple of lengthy profiles setup in DCS. So I started toying with TARGET since I used Saitek's SST software for some time generating profiles that did what I expected insofar as HOTAS to airplane movement. With TM Warthog HOTAS I have looked at several ready made profiles both DCS LUA and one TARGET but can't find one simple enough to relate to then build on. I started with simple BASIC GUI but have familiarized with Advanced and even tried modifying with the script editor - have had some experience with programming up thru C - but am unable to find ways around things like getting an 8-way POV into TARGET. Can't find a key to assign UP-LEFT (e,g) to. Granted, I could do a POV in DCS but would like to see it all wrapped up in TARGET it possible. So after that preamble.... Is there a way to assign 8-way viewing POV using TARGET? Is ther a way of assigning my keyboard's Lshift LWIN (Fn-Pause) to a TARGET key? (This is how I get to a "Pause Active" in DCS.

New TM Warthog HOTAS Joystick: 61668 Throttle: 61826 USA NH

Been all over the forums and videos between "practice, practice, practice" and have made puny progress in getting to a sometimes reasonable touchdown. Most of the time it ends shortly thereafter skidding sideways even after pulling back the stick to lock wheels. But mostly, getting over the runway straight at glide speed without bouncing the landing gear awry is the biggest issue. Just more time needed (without the "War Department" feeling neglected) I expect. I've never actually flown except to take controls of friends' crafts during flight a few times which I enjoyed immensely. I get the feeling I'm battling my declining hand/eye coordination and general dexterity (76 yr. old retiree) on top of h/w touchiness and simulation complexity. I've been reading up on the TM Warthog HOTAS from users as well as publications and I think I am using not-the-best h/w with X52 Pro. However, until I can justify blowing $400 to replace it I spend a lot of time applying tips to improve its control. What amazes me is videos like Sogomonian's (DCS: World - P-51D - Taxi, Takeoff, Landing Tutorial - ). My craft is never that stable. At least, not after making a throttle or rudder/aileron/elevator-trim while descending on final approach. I try to avoid rudder pedal use during that time which causes bobbing all over the place. No matter how tiny the trim or stick adjustment I make I rarely am as spot on as his video. Sooooo.... back into the skies when I get the chance and keep tuned to these informative forums... :)

HiJack, thanks for this tip!!. After figuring out delay entry I tried it out and it does a pretty good job! I did drop the release to 0.025. For some reason all my axis and trims on the X52 Pro are ULTRA sensitive. Using this tio with the SST Macro bound to the keyboard key gives the P51D almost complete control of the drift. Still working at getting all 3 trims to the point where I can line up on a landing approach and actually get down without bouncing or angling and ending up a fire ball. I'm counting/collecting pennies and hope someday to upgrade to a TM Warthog HOTAS. I'm getting weary of my sticky/loose/touchy X52 Pro..... or go back to boring arcade style games

artmustel, I have to say this thread is very informative. I've been struggling to get consecutive *successful* takeoffs and landings for some time and am still in trouble with both. I've even created missions with green gates galore trying to get axis controls setup with right DCS settings while trimming like mad just to get level controlled flight. Still at it..... Good luck with your efforts and thanks loads to you and folks responding I have more fodder to chew on. I've spent tons of time viewing videos and applying tips from helpful folks and have made progress but someone said "practice,practice,practice,practice,..." and I'll get there. I do whenever I have time......

Regards Teamspeak Zimm, thanks for suggestion. I took a quick look at TeamSpeak. In the not too distant future it will be checked off my "get it" list. Right now I am prioritizing with practicing/tweaking controls with what I have. However, from responses to my post and watching several vids I've gotta have Trackir and rudder pedals! Those are my next priorities. Would like to find some way of extending my X52 Pro Joystick for finer control but.....

My controller Axis curves As mentioned earlier, I have spent hours tweaking my controller to the point where I have limited success and would post those curves. Not having a lot of experience with that this is somewhat of an experiment. Here are the curves for the Saitek X52 Pro HOTAS: : x Axis : Y- Axis : Rudder Axis : RPM Axis : Elevator Trim Axis : Rudder Trim Axis : Throttle Axis Undoubtedly, I will continue to tweak these going forward. This is the Saitek profile in zip format: Mustang 000.zip - Now, hopefully that went all according to Hoyle.... If/when you unzip the Saitek profile, load it into SST programming utility, and scan the contents you will see most of the axis are intact. Exceptions are the Slider1 (RPM) and Mode 3, X-AXIS. The former should be easy to understand but both are banded with bindings to Key presses in DCS P51-D. For now it works for me but I will likely change that at some point. If anyone chooses to adopt any of these and has questions feel free to ask. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit update 3/9/17 Since posting this I've continued to tweak stick and throttle axis and gotten a pair of TM rudder pedals. Needless to say, tweaking continues and some progress made in improving controls in general and marginal success in takeoff/landings. Still find controls touchy as hell in trying to center the ball for leveling our to make a good approach. Lubed the stick but still bobble too much even with feather touches and end up in flames too much. Spending any free time doing all that stuff. Also spend a lot of time watching videos and gathering tips. Thanks to all for many tips and pointers to tips/videos/articles. One day I hope to look back on all this frustration with a smile cuz it's OVER but I'm gonna get there.......

Reply to mkiii Thanks for the input. I'm going to give the "bootlace" trick a try to see what it buys me. An issue that I need a work around with is a "sticky" joystick. Especially those tiny corrections I seem to need during final approach. Seems to have a tiny bit of hangup just before moving. Will have to deal with that for now but I am looking at pedals as a first item and am also looking seriously into the trackir unit. I may regret a decision during my recent downsizing (accompanying retirement) where I gave up a home built desktop to my gaming grandson. This Eluctronic Gaming Laptop has a nice size (17+ inch screen) and fairly good specs - described in OP - and capable of physically handling pedals and trackir, I think. However, I'm finding thoughts entering my mind to build a strictly gaming desktop and keep this for usual administrative stuff. However, that will have to get past the War Department (read: spouse). :)

Thanks Art-J. Someone else mentioned extensions. Will have to look into it. At first glance, I can't see any way of adjusting the X52 Pro joystick other than a lock to avoid using it for rudder twist - I assume for pedals which I don't have..... I'm going to try to post my AXIS curves soon but in short I have been all over the map getting to where I am currently at - and expect to continue tweaking a bit. I

Thanks David OC for all the hints/cautions/suggestions. I will be kept busy for awhile just going through the pointers! Regarding taildraggers, I have toyed with others including some of the WWI and have to admit finding them VERY different than tricycle landers. I am committed to devoting my play time nailing the Mustang and do appreciate your inputs along with the many others.

My system is: Eluktronics P670RP6 Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7-6700HQ Quad Core, W10 Home, 6GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, 17.3” Full HD IPS, 256GB Performance SSD + 1TB HDD, 16GB DDR4 RAM I have a SaitekX52 Pro HOTAS system and have spent a bit of time integrating the SST profiles into the existing AXIS configuring of DCS P51 - and am still tweaking. I'm going to try to edit both in the original post shortly. The X52 Pro is 3 years old and still in good condition consting ~$150 new. That's it...

You got that right. I keep telling myself I'm improving (but why so darn slow!!!) cuz after more than a dozen crashes then a first damaged-but-still-mobile landing they got mostly better when they happened and actually had fewer crashes in between. Still get total failures too often. I haven't yet reached the point where I've made a smooth touchdown but have had several where I was able to taxi to a turn point without nosing into the runway. I'm going to try to keep editing the original post with updates and data so I will have plenty of judges to weigh in on any claims of progress. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Certainlycan relate.....

Well........ my better half was demanding I "get off that thing and come to dinner!!!" but being paged seemed more rational ;)

To start, let me point out I am a starter who likes the concept of a WWII craft and am intrigued with the Mustang P51. About 3 years ago I was scanning games on Steam and saw DCS and a number of A/C one could simulate flying and was intrigued. I have some history with MS Flight simulation products and a few others but never was satisfied with their "combat" scenarios. I always thought the Arcade environment was a bit too easy. However, configuring many of them for simulation mode made for a more interesting experience. Thus, I expected to be challenged with DCS. I have been in an our to Steam for the past couple of years toying with DCS World and finally decided to go straight to DCS for play time now that I have retired. I am going to attempt a log of sorts with edits as time goes forward to chronicle my experiences. This is the initial entry and am now being paged so will be back with further edits shortly. Additional info/update - 02/14/2017 @ 1742 hrs DST US East coast: ----------------------------------------------------------- In a nutshell, I am still frustrated after 15 - 20 hours of actual Mustang flying time with the super-sensitive flight controls even with Saitek x52 Pro Flight system (I expect Thrustmaster Warthot Hotas users might point out that is one oif my problems) which I have researched, reprogrammed and tweaked multiple hours for each flight time hour. I've managed to reach a level of almost-satisfaction with level flight, ascending/descending, banking, etc at various speeds successfully. However, in takeoff/landing runs, I have about 70 crashes to 40 landings. Rarely is either smooth when successful. I still go back to tutorials for additional guidance but find my controls are generally less smooth than desired. Generally, the issue is drifting or bobbling about at approach speeds for landing and craft wild drifting/pitching over during takeoff. I have modified missions to concentrate on Kobuleti landing pattern/landing in addition to takeoff from various airfields. Each of these have much prep adjusting axis curves and control magnitudes to gain smoother/fine control as well as adequate control magnitude. As I continue this log/journal I intend to embed (if possible) values and graphics of these efforts. My system: Eluktronics P670RP6 Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7-6700HQ Quad Core, W10 Home, 6GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, 17.3” Full HD IPS, 256GB Performance SSD + 1TB HDD, 16GB DDR4 RAM I have yet to experiment with overclocking nor checked frame rate. I have a generally smooth display at max resolution of 1980/1080. However, an irritating momentary sound/video freeze (stutter?) bothers me but doesn't seem to otherwise impact game play. My current goals: 1. Achieve 10 sequential takeoff/landings in each of P51-D and TF51-D in ideal conditions as a minimum in full simulation then 2. Repeat with varying weather, climate, and visibility conditions After that get into combat scenarios. Questions: 1. What are ideal control settings 2. Using SAitek X52 Pro, what is a convenient and workable control profile If readers of this post has suggestions regarding anything I've mentioned I would appreciate your input. Certainly if you have any to offer with regard to the questions I would be very grateful. =================================================================================================================================== Additional info/update - 02/16/2017 @2328 hrs DST US East coast: ----------------------------------------------------------- As time permitted I read replies to my posts and responded to many. In between dealing with live and following pointers to many helpful suggestions I managed to fly a few more landing attempts and managed my softest touchdown yet with a track I'll post soon. Crashes are decreasing while I continue to tweak control settings and obviously get more practice. I watched a video of trackir and concluded I gotta get one!! While watching vids it baffled me how quickly images zoomed or panned while the pilot still maintaining steady course. I would often drift when changing a view. Trackir would fix that and make things a lot easier as one poster pointed out. Something else I need to acquire is rudder pedals both for braking and rudder control. A long way to go but I can't give thanks enough the folks who have enlightened me with suggestions so far. I know I will be leaps ahead on my learning curve once I have put many into practice.