Good info so far and thanks for keeping this thread alive. After years of play with a powered USB hub, I finished a flight and noticed something was wrong with my stick TMS Up button in the F-16 despite checking button bindings. Decided to fire up TARGET for some reason even though I never use it. Found out my stick FW was out of date as well as the TARGET software. Off to the TM site to download both. During the FW update to the stick, somehow my throttle got flashed. Working through the "bootleg method" and firing up an old ASUS gaming laptop to see if I can push the throttle firmware there. Combo has worked for years, and I even managed to not pinch any wires during the mini-stick update to the throttles. Kind of like Nvidia drivers, if it's not broke don't fix it.