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Managed to fix it it was indeed a mod or two causing it I have yet to figure out which one but its one of these: VSN TORNADO VSN YF12A VSN 104G VSN F35 VSN F16 VSN F14A VSN F4 VNAO_T45 USNS_WALTER DIEHL SU 30MK_SFM JAS39 These are the mods I still have installed below and everything works great: A4E-C BELL UH-1M BRONCO CH47 CHINOOK SK60 EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON F-15EX F-22A HERCULES V6.8.2 MH-60R SH60B SIKORSKY SH-3 SEA KING SU-17M4 SU-57 FELON UH-60L

Just to reply to this I'm running version 2.9.2.49940 on both my servers and my desktop client and even blowing out ALL the mods from the servers saved games directory AND the mission itself hasn't resolved this: If I try to spawn into any unit on any carrier the carrier shows a water "explosion" then the carrier disappears, It isn't on the map either. The slot is still selectable though in the menu despite the game not spawning it. This has only happened since the latest update. I think there is more going on with this issue than (delete all your mods), I also repaired the installations on both the server and the client.

Maybe a stupid question but can we still use the older way of doing it with all the files (i will switch eventually but dont want to do it right now).

In aware this might be something that is being worked on for the dynamic campaign but what I would really love is for ED to fully embrace the idea of fully persistent missions , so that when we are creating custom missions we can literally do something as simple as toggling a switch to make the mission fully peristent or not. I understand this would take a lot of work and I have tried A LOT of the other scripted solutions out there , and whilst some work well-ish, shout out to pikeys implementation and the SPGG one, but I feel like none of them really pull it off whilst making it work with both objects placed in the mission AND dynamically spawned units (plus we are also limited to not be able to take up units routes where they left off). My second suggestion (and I REALLY hope this is already being implemented into the DC but some sort of CTLD/CSAR core functionality. These three things imo would make this sim so much more realistic and enjoyable (and better for mission creators too). Thanks for reading my waffle . Smack.

Is it normal for this script to produce entries in the log that read " Airbase doesn't exist"? This wasn't happening until the new update just came out.

Roger that yeah I learned that the hard way haha took me about 30mins to figure that out, sorry to keep banging on about it but deleting ALL the content would work yeah just leaving the empty file? One other weird thing , I've noticed whilst editing my mission (bearing in ming not when it's running on the server but just whilst editing it locally) when I load up the mission in the game sometime a ship or some enemy ground units will randomly spawn in enemy territory or on land which weren't there before, is this a bug or caused by the saved units file , or maybe I'm just crazy.

Quick Question. Can I "reset" the persistence progress by just deleting the Savefile?

I fingered it out , it didn't like it because I had left the "hotfix" on the end on the folder.

Sorry to do this to ya Kanelbolle but I'm down to one last error in my log and I can't for the life of me figure out whats causing it, you have any ideas??? 2023-02-01 00:40:33.302 ERROR SCRIPTING (Main): Mission script error: [string "C:\Users\Martin\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS_Laptop\/~mis000077B1.lua"]:74: can't open 'E:\Dropbox\Saved Games\DCS_Laptop\Scripts\SPGG_v019\SPGG_Save_v019.lua' 2023-02-01 00:40:34.392 ERROR SCRIPTING (Main): Mission script error: [string "C:\Users\Martin\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS_Laptop\/~mis00006C33.lua"]:6603: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) 2023-02-01 00:40:40.190 ERROR SCRIPTING (Main): Mission script error: [string "spgg.spawnBlueGroundGroup()..."]:1: attempt to call field 'spawnBlueGroundGroup' (a nil value)

Ahhhh thankyou for that , yes I was driving myself insane, I am presently using v18 but I will see about using 19 now.

Is there a minimum time that can be set as the loop in SPGG.lua as Mine works and saves every hour but it doesn't seem to make a difference if I set : -- Save loop in min spgg.Savetime = 10 to anything different it STILL saves at 1 hour intervals for some reason , any ideas???

Iv got a stupid question, If i just want all units and groups to be saved at the interval specified in the spgg.lua script (by default 60 mins ive set it to 3 for testing) do i HAVE to run a do script of spggsave to specify exactly when I want it to save or should it just take the parameters from spgg.lua . Struggling to get the save part to actually work I actually managed to get it to sort of work, so now when I start the mission all units get saved to the savefile, but that file never gets updated despite the time that its set to 3 mins passing.

Please let me know if you figure it out because that is the last thing missing from my missions (being able to have both CTLD and CSAR Units and Statics persist across server restarts).

Is there any way to make DML persist groups/statics that are created by CTLD/CSAR.

For me it doesn't matter what livery I use (all default ones) same ones I was using in 2.7 and didn't have this issue. This is definitely since 2.8 was released.

Nope not related to players I run 7 servers on different maps and they ALL do it , even with me as the only client.

Also been having this issue since the update. 3090. 128GB DDR4 24 core threadripper CPU. My system only uses NVME's no mechanical or SATA SSD's. Texture load wasn't FAST by any means in 2.7 but it got considerably worse in 2.8 OB imo.

So I've been going back and forth between the MOOSE and MIST versions of CTLD and i haven't yet quite found onw that does everything I'm looking for . Things I'm trying to achieve...have ctld work with persistence (sort of solved this using pikeys scripts), whilst being able to have newly spawned JTAC's picked up by an autolase script (used moose ctld for this with ciribobs older autolase script, couldn't get it to detect the Groups named JTAC3 and JTAC4). And finally , to make a scoring system so that when a pilot successfully complets a transport or drops of cargo they get points, again I have this working my moose implementation of CTLD but not in my old school version Anyone got any suggestions (or wants to be my personal Lua coder, I'm all ears.

I have this working by essentially using 2 methods I use DML's persistence to persist units that are placed in the ME ,then I have a function at the end of my CTLD script to persist the CTLD created units. It actually works pretty well although 2 seperate files are created for each server.

Quick question , since 2.8 I've been getting mad errors in the logs stating "corrupt damage model" is this something you guys are familiar with?

Early days of testing but the crash seems to be gone at this point, will keep it up on my test server for a couple days to see what happens.

For what it's worth I was working with Special K from the DCS Discord basically all morning and it came down to being the VSN tornado mod for me at least. Doesn't explain why it worked with 2.7 or why it worked on 2 of my servers with 2.8 but not on two others (as they all had the same mods installed).... either way this fixed it for me. I'm not sure what Harrier Heavy flight times means but if u can explain I'll answer that question.

There's an issue with the VSN tornado mods both versions on 2.8. Only way i was able to get my servers to run since the update was to remove the mod.

This cannot be 100% the cause, I run 6 servers (and a 7th as a test one) 4 of my servers run flawlessly on 2.8 WITH all the same mods as servers 1 and 2, its a very weird issue and only seems to be affecting 2 of my missions/servers, in the interests of completion the maps that I'm having the issues on are Caucuses and Snowfox. The logs don't meant that much to my feebly brain but this is the error i can see: No idea why its referring to some Microsoft "symbols" package" ??? 2022-10-30 05:09:55.143 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2022-10-30 05:09:55.144 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20221030-050955 -------------- 2022-10-30 05:09:55.144 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.0.32066 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.22000) 2022-10-30 05:09:55.145 INFO EDCORE (Main): E:\DCS\bin\DCS.exe 2022-10-30 05:09:55.145 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at C2C16CEF 00:00000000 2022-10-30 05:09:55.146 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\DCS;E:\DCS\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'test' 2022-10-30 05:09:55.147 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22000 () 0x100-0x1 2022-10-30 05:09:55.570 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007A6CEF (DCS): SW + 0x3677AF 2022-10-30 05:09:55.571 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007C0562 (DCS): SW + 0x381022 2022-10-30 05:09:55.572 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B9A7C (DCS): SW + 0x37A53C 2022-10-30 05:09:55.572 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007C2C54 (DCS): SW + 0x383714 2022-10-30 05:09:55.573 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007CABC5 (DCS): SW + 0x38B685 2022-10-30 05:09:55.573 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B66A2 (DCS): SW + 0x377162 2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B5BED (DCS): SW + 0x3766AD 2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B6DB6 (DCS): SW + 0x377876 2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B5393 (DCS): SW + 0x375E53 2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000078BDAE (DCS): SW + 0x34C86E 2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000078B63F (DCS): SW + 0x34C0FF 2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005214C (WorldGeneral): wControl::Control + 0x5C 2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000039E5 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x4B5 2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003EFD (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x1FD 2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CCB1 (DCS): SW + 0x3CD771 2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CA0E (DCS): SW + 0x3CD4CE 2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000082D349 (DCS): SW + 0x3EDE09 2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ECA54 (DCS): SW + 0x3AD514 2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ED924 (DCS): SW + 0x3AE3E4 2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022820EB (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF5B0E7 2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000BDA842 (DCS): SW + 0x79B302 2022-10-30 05:09:55.577 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000154E0 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x10 2022-10-30 05:09:55.577 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000485B (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x2B 2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created. 2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 INFO Lua::Config (Main): stack traceback: 2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 WARNING LOG (3720): 3 duplicate message(s) skipped.

Hi man , quick question is there any way I can control or change the message that is displayed when saving persistence??