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    Why can't you flare an F14?

    in DCS: F-14A & B

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    On 5/4/2023 at 11:31 AM, Dannyvandelft said:

    Funny that this thread popped up. The other day I had a runway landing, and it was so smooth, on speed and without a flare, that when the weight came on wheels and the DLC deactivated, she took off again emoji1787.png so used to keeping the power on, on deck that I never cut the throttles on a land runway emoji1787.png

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    I know what you mean I have to make a mental note when landing ashore every time not to go mil at the touch.

    Liberation 6.1.1 AI Unit Buying

    in User Created Missions General

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    Is there a way to fix the AI unit per chase log ice? For example I stated the Marianas campaign and used USN 1985 Vs Russia 1965 to have kind of a semi nam experience. Even after arranging the red for with multiple MiG squadrons and fields with many slots like Anderson and insuring them plenty of cash the AI only buys 1 large transport.

     

    Is there a way to fix off or manipulate this?

    Ground attack loadouts discussion

    in DCS: F-4 Phantom

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    On 12/16/2022 at 3:56 AM, Aussie_Mantis said:

    Also, for OP @NoodI, a full, comprehensive list of everything I know for A2G and A2A that was ever put on a USAF F-4E at any point:
     

    Air to Air Missiles

     

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    • AIM-9B/J/N/P/P-1/P-2/P-3/P-4/P-5 (4 on Aero-3/B Launcher (Peltier Electric Cooling) with choice between 1.75-in, 3-in and double 3-in spacers)
    • AIM-9L/M (4 on LAU-105 (Nitrogen/Argon cooling) w/ double 3-inch spacers)
    • AIM-7E/E-2/E-3/E-4/F/M/P in sparrow recesses + also 2 on inboard hardpoints if sidewinders forfeited and left at base

    Iron Bombs

     

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    • Mk 81 250lbs LDGP Bomb (max load 24)
    • Mk 82 500lbs LDGP Bomb (max load 24)
    • Mk 83 1000lbs LDGP Bomb (max load 13, 2-3-3-3-2)
    • Mk 84 2000lbs LDGP Bomb (max load 3, 1-0-1-0-1)
    • M118 3000lbs demo bomb (max load 1, 0-0-1-0-0)
    • M117GP 750lbs demo bomb (allegedly only up to 17 carried but some anecdotal sources suggest up to 19 possible if MTOW restrictions waived & carried in 4-3-5-3-4 configuration)
    • M117R Retarded Bomb (only up to 16 due to new tail) 
    • M117D Destructor Bomb (M117 with a magnetic fuze)
    • Mk 81/82 Snakeeye Retarded Bombs (up to 24)
    • Mk 82/BSU-49/B (AIR) air-inflatable parachute retarded bomb (up to 24)
    • Mk 84/BSU-50/B air-inflated parachute retarded bomb
    • Mk 13 1000lbs Bomb (UK) (max load 13, only loaded as practice for NATO shenanigans)
    • 500lbs H.E. M.C. Mk II (UK) (Surplus) (Max load 13, only loaded as practice for NATO shenanigans)
    • Mk. N1 540lbs UK GP Bombs (max load 24, only loaded as practice for NATO shenanigans)
    • Matra Durandal 250-500kg anti-runway bombs
    • Matra/SAMP 250/400kg bombs- Inboard wing stations (2,8) only on TER-9A triple ejector racks. Unusual to see in wild on account of being French and therefore not particularly standard issue. Unlike Durandal the USAF never procured these bombs and its inclusion in the manual is likely only for use in the case of a war (West German Luftwaffe had 250kg Matra bombs, as did France obviously, as well as a multitude of other nations in NATO with French hardware i.e. Mirages)
    • Mk 81 Mk 82/Mk 83/Mk 84/M117GP/M118 GP w/ M1A1 extended fuze (bursts above ground)
    • YOM-4M/A (single carriage on centerline, requires specialized loading equipment + RATO boosters due to weight & girth. Makes loud, high-pitched demoralizing "scream" upon dropping, and causes massive tremors and localized terrain deformation upon impact. Heaviest unguided bomb ever deployed.)

    Guided Munitions

     

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    • AGM-65 Mavericks A through D (confirmed w/ T.O. 1F-4E-1 1986 w/ 1991 corrections
    • AGM-64 Hornet AGM (tested on F-4D, never used in service)
    • AGM-62 Walleye I, Walleye I-ER, Walleye-II (not listed in manual, seen at China Lake and in IAF service)
    • AGM-12B Bullpup (500lbs warhead)
    • AGM-12C Bullpup (1000lbs warhead)
    • GBU-8 HOBOS 2000lbs TV-guided bomb
    • GBU-9 HOBOS 3000lbs TV-guided bomb
    • GBU-15 TV-guided bomb
    • GBU-15(V)1 Extended Range TV-guided Bomb (has bigger wings)
    • GBU-10 2000lbs Paveway II LGB
    • GBU-12 500lbs Paveway II LGB
    • GBU-24 Paveway III LGB
    • GBU-11A/B 3000lbs LGB
    • BOLT-117 LGB from Texas Instruments (legend has it that they duct-taped a calculator to the bomb as the guidance assembly)
    • AGM-130 (China Lake tests? Same thing as the GBU-15 but with rocket booster so it wouldn't make sense if the F-4E couldn't theoretically carry it)

    Cluster Munitions

     

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    • Mk.20 Rockeye/CBU-100 (same thing, just different designations- 500lbs bomb w/ ~250 Mk 118 HEAT Anti-Tank bomblets)
    • CBU-24/49/52/58/71 (800lbs bomb w/ ~670 HE bomblets, up to 15 in 3-2-5-2-3, allegedly able to carry 3-3-5-3-3 for 17)
    • CBU-89/B GATOR Mine Dispenser w/ 72 AT & 22 AP mines
    • CBU-12 (really old 500lbs cluster bomb, I don't know what's in it)
    • BL-755/IBL-755/RBL-755 Cluster Bomb (Bri'ish 600lbs Cluster bomb with 147 cluster bomblets. IBL-755 made the cluster bomblets have parachutes. RBL-755 takes standard BL-755s and gives them radar altimeters so they always go off at the right altitude. In manual for F-4E, likely would only be loaded during wartime if CBU-100 production couldn't catch up with use and had to rely on British production. Maximum 6 with 2 on each inboard and 2 on centerline.)
    • Presumably CBU-87 (GATOR = CBU-87)
    • CBU-7/30/38 (really old CBU units, can load up to 18)
    • MJU-1 Chaff Bomb
    • M112 Leaflet Bombs (Contains toilet paper donations for Viet Cong, presumably ~500lbs weight class. Allegedly once dropped while filled with actual toilet paper.)

    Napalm and other incendiaries 

     

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    • BLU-1 Napalm (750lbs)
    • BLU-10B Napalm (250lbs) 
    • BLU-32 Napalm (500lbs)
    • BLU-27 Napalm (welded version of BLU-1)
    • BLU-10S Napalm (440lbs)
    • BLU-10Sip Napalm (same thing as BLU-10S, I don't know what the difference is but I think it's something to do with the firestarter compound)
    • M36E2 incendiary cluster bomb (CBU-24 filled with napalm cluster bomblets)
    • Mark 1 Mod 0 Pilot/Crew Flammable Gas Dispenser (mounted in both cockpit on top of seat, required pilot to manually open canopy, shift position on seat with arse end pointed upwards and use cigarette lighter to function. Extremely dangerous to aircrew; rarely used except by the most daring aces during sustained combat operations in barracks).

    Rockets

     

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    • LAU-10 pod w/ 4 Zuni in HE-FRAG, AT/AP, can be loaded singly or on MER/TER for 3 per pylon
    • LAU-3 pod w/ 19 FFAR in HE-FRAG, WP, HEAT, can be loaded singly or on MER/TER for 3 per pylon, maximum load 
    • LAU-68 pod w/ 7 Hydra 80mm Rockets (1-2 per pylon, only on inboard stations. Maximum load 4.)
    • Matra Type 155 Rocket Pod (reusable) w/ 18 68mm SNEB Rockets (comes in HE-FRAG, WP, HEAT, can be loaded singly or on MER/TER for 3 per pylon, maximum load 13 in 2-3-3-3-2 configuration)
    • Matra Type 116M Rocket Pod (disposable) w/ 19 68mm SNEB Rockets (same as above, maximum 13 in 2-3-3-3-2 configuration)

    Anti-Radiation Missiles

     

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    • AGM-45 SHRIKE ARM A-1/B-1 through A-1/B-10 (Number = different seeker, either targets different bands or improves on prior seekers. A/B = different rocket motor. Shrike is notoriously horrible and would suck since you have a +/- 3 degree tolerance for launch and it needs to aim straight at the target.)
    • AGM-87 STANDARD ARM (Israeli only possibly??? but I think the US could do it too...?)
    • F-4Gs carried AGM-88 HARM, I'm not sure if regular F-4Es could carry it but if they tested HARMs on an F-4E I wouldn't be too surprised.
    • AGM-76 Falcon ARM (AIM-26 FALCON ARM conversion, never put into service)

    Special Munitions

     

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    • B43 Nuclear bomb (up to 3 on inboard and centerline)
    • B57 Nuclear bomb (same as above)
    • B61 Nuclear bomb (same as above)
    • BLU-52/B and BLU-52A/B Sarin Gas bomb w/ CS-1 Gas (BLU-1s filled with Sarin)
    • MC-1 Sarin Gas Bomb w/ CS-1 Gas (M117s filled with Sarin)
    • AN/ALD-35TR/U-CT(ION) Special Effects Munition Dispenser, also trialled and bolted just above seat, filled with noxious liquid aerosol. Development closely tied to Mk 1 Mod. 0 PCFGD.

    Targeting Pods

     

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    • AN/AVQ-10 Pave Knife targeting pod (inboard stations #2 and #8)
    • AN/AVQ-23 Pave Spike (Fore port-side sparrow station i.e. Station #4)
    • AN/AVQ-26 Pave Tack (requires adapter, mounts on centerline)
    • Some sort of handheld laser designator allegedly held by Rear Seat Pilot/Bear to guide bombs onto target (Vietnam Era, anecdotal)
    • AN/ASX-1 TISEO TV sight installed above port-side Inboard Hardpoint (hardpoint #2), standard on all F-4Es past last 10 examples of Block 48, never retrofitted onto anything earlier
    • AN/AXQ-14 ADL Pod (provides datalink to TV-guided GBU-15, mounts on centerline and on inboard hardpoints)
    • Mark 1 Mod 0 Electro-Optical Bio-Mechanical Targeting System (standard issue, 2-4 carried on aircraft within cockpit spot-welded to Pilot Skull)

    Gun Pods

     

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    • SUU-16/A and SUU-23/A 20mm Vulcan/GAU-4 gun pod (Carries 3 in manual on outboard/centerline, photographs show plane carrying 5)
    • GPU-5/A PAVE CLAW 30mm GAU-13 gun pod (carries 1 on centerline, photographs show plane carrying 2 by putting them on inboard hardpoints)
    • Presumably SUU-11/A/B/C 7.62mm Minigun pods (would carry up to 21 by putting them on TER/MER on every hard point like that one F-4D)
    • Mk 4 USN Gun Pods (alleged Air Force use from USN/USMC Phantom stocks in Vietnam, up to 3 just like SUU-16/23 but can only mount 3 because it's too big for the inboards)

    ECM Pods & Countermeasure Dispensers

     

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    • AN/ALQ-71, AN/ALQ-72, AN/ALQ-87,  pods either on inboard hardpoints 2/8 or inboard sparrow nacelles stations 4/6
    • AN/ALQ-101, AN/ALQ-119, AN/ALQ-131 ECM on either inboard hardpoints 2/8 or port sparrow nacelle station 4, cannot be mounted on station 6 due to clearance issues with the landing gear doors
    • AN/ALE-38 Chaff dispensers
    • AN/ALE-40s on the inboard hardpoints obviously, 2 per inboard pylon
    • AN/ALE-2 & AN/ALQ 176(V) Combined Chaff Dispenser & Radar Jammer
    • AN/ALQ-188 ECM Pods on inboard hardpoints

    Fuel Tanks

     

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    • 600 gal. Royal Jet Centerline Drop Tank. Requires AERO-27/A hardpoint to work. Hardpoint does not come off jet when tank dropped.
    • 600 gal. High Performance Centerline Drop Tank. Requires AERO-27/A Hardpoint to work. Hardpoint does not come off jet when tank dropped.
    • 370 gal Sargeant Fletcher tanks on wings, had hardpoints embedded into tank so that it would fall clean off. Favoured drop tank for all F-4 pilots since the beginning due to 3 major reasons:
    1. not taking up space on centerline often used for bombs, gun pods etc
    2. As it turns out the F-4 maneuvers better if you don't have bombs on the outboard hardpoints and instead shove them on the inboard ones, ergo, put what you're going to drop before combat on the outboards so you maneuver better post-dropping.
    3. SPECULATORY: The 600gal tank is ugly. Allegations persist of its mother's identity (suspected to be a promiscuous hamster) and its father's mysterious odor (suspected to be elderberry liquor). Pilots who see the 600gal tank in the wild are advised to utilize the Mark 1 Mod 0 PCFGD (as described in incendiaries section) and release noxious flammable gas in its general direction to drive it off.

     

    Conclusions

    Thanks to being as big as a flying fortress and being pretty tall, if it could attach to a NATO standard hardpoint, it could probably be strapped on somehow to an F-4E.

    The Israelis, Greeks, Turks and South Koreans put some funky new weapons on their F-4Es. The F-4EJ and EJ Kai do not exist because I said so, and I am the Most Trustworthy Source In The World (real). F-4Es in Iran carry funky Iranian weaponry like M117s mounted on MIM-23 HAWK and AIM-54 PHOENIX booster assemblies, funky laser-guided rocket bombs and even AGM-65 Maverick/GBU-12 Paveway seeker heads mounted on HAWK/Phoenix boosters. Allegedly capable of carrying Soviet weaponry but I've yet to see anything proving that to be the case.

    From what I know nobody and certainly no multi-billion-dollar-net-worth corporation has yet developed a toilet, dog, or any other unusual, funny and quirky Comedic Ordnance to be dropped from an F-4, apart from aforementioned Leaflet bomb allegedly filled with toilet paper. I have added notes and comedic weapons/ordnance as I am a bored individual.

     

    Absolutely F….ing gold. With the little Easter eggs added in for good effect.

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