I just did some retesting and while the margin is slim i constantly get better turnrates flying the 21. No matter in which speedrange, as long as look not to pull to high AOA the fishbeds thrust allows it to gain a 1-2 degree/s advantage in sustained turns. The F5 with its more modern lift devices is better at unsustained turns but a long as the 21-driver knows/feels its AOA limits i dont see how the F5 can be the better dogfighter or energy fighter.
Which leads to the question: Do u guys use the f5 as a rate or radius fighter?
I would love to see any tacview file of a competently flown F5 beating another about equaly competent enemy.