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Hi everyone, Another issue I've found on the Marianas maps - that being the model for the NDBs. At the moment they're these absolutely gigantic lattice towers that look nothing like the real thing. They also have a LOD that makes them basically invisible until you're less than a km away from it (though this might be my display - it's tiny). The one on Guam is a small building with a triangular lattice tower that's probably a third of the height of the tower that's currently there. Incidentally the terrain mesh looks off - Google Earth at least thinks it's roughly level with the road, and is essentially flat - here it's a fairly significant ditch. This isn't so much of a problem though - because it is less noticeable. The one at Rota International Airport is again, a much thinner mast, that's probably a third of the height - this is the best RL image I can find of it: Compared to this (-camera 75.618393 0.231608 48.282757 -cameradir -0.148210 -0.165008 0.975093): Obviously more zoomed in, because at the distance of the RL shot, the LOD makes it basically invisible - track posted below. Then there's the one at Saipan - easily the worst of the 3, not only is it the same massive tower, but it's positioned almost directly on the approach path into runway 7 of Saipan International Airport. The actual mast is a small, white, guyed, triangular lattice tower, that's looks to be about double the height of your average light-pole/street-lamp. Or about 1/6th of the height (if that) of the huge lattice tower that's currently there. The geometry also seems off, according to google street view, the area is in a bit of ditch but a barely noticeable one. Here's a google street-view of the site: And here's essentially the same shot in DCS (-camera 179.211235 0.043152 99.909885 -cameradir 0.125941 0.018311 -0.991869) Notice that there's also a load of electrical objects present where there aren't (the actual site only has 3-4 objects - the antenna, 2 very small buildings and a wooden pole (?). The geometry also seems off as well, it's much more flat IRL by the looks of it than in DCS. Hell, maybe that was intentional - because if it was correct it would definitely be interfering with the approach path. And here is it in relation to runway 7 at Saipan International (-camera 179.100563 0.105914 99.596342 -cameradir 0.346104 -0.047823 0.936976): Saipan's_Enormous_NDB.trk EDIT: This should've been posted in the bugs and issues section.
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What is the status of the bug with ME placeable NDBs (non directional beacons) not working on the Persian Gulf map? I can remember the issue being reported 2 years ago, yet to this day none of them seem to work for anyone (both ARC and TACAN, latest personal tests with ARC in multiplayer with correctly placed and "working" beacons which no module can pick up). And does this have to do with the general map bug of fixed location beacons (NDBs) being coded in Hz instead of Mhz (typo-bug, as also present on Syria for a while, seemingly coming from and Eagle keylog being used as a baseline by Ugra Media)? This bug is relevant as for any mission scenarios that are above the absolute lowest denominator being able to home in on a road base or FARP when other means are not available or in DRIFT can be quite relevant (especially when forced to use terrain masking). Moreso since the PG map is quite empty and repetitive in many areas making terrestrial navigation especially at deck and even at angels an issue. An earnest update - even if it reads "we had no time/no ressources for that" - would be appreciated to at least know what the status is.
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Hi everyone, This one is a bit of a nitpicky one, concerning a few minor issues at Stanley Airport. A VOR is present that doesn't exist IRL - actually a DME, but doesn't look to be where the VOR is in DCS. The NDB is in the wrong location, has the wrong frequency and has the wrong identifier (though the model is suitable for at least one antenna at Stanley). EDIT: It is located at Port Stanley airport, but likely not where it is depicted in DCS The runway markings are inaccurate There's a set of PAPIs which aren't present IRL. There's a giant lattice tower next to the control tower which doesn't bear much resemblence to the real thing. NAVAIDs, runway markings and PAPIs: Here's a screenshot in the mission editor. Note the VOR, NDB, runway markings and PAPI lights: And here's roughly the same position (though zoomed out) in Google Earth: There's no VOR There's no NDB The runway markings are inaccurate There doesn't seem to be any PAPI lights (resolution of satellite imagery might result in them not being visible). The model of the NDB would be suitable for antenna marked with a circle with an arrow pointing to it (I'm not sure what this is, but the model certainly looks suitable). EDIT said antenna (seen inside the left circle) is an NDB colocated with a DME station, the right circle appears empty in zoom.earth. Speaking of the NDB, apparently Port Stanley airport does have one, but it's located in Port Stanley itself (251° for 2.7 nautical miles from Stanley). Also, the frequency and identifier are both inaccurate. It's currently 314 kHz and "SA" respectively, when it should be 340 kHz and "STA" respectively: Also note how no VOR is marked. EDIT, the above image is inaccurate (out of date most likely). Lattice Tower: Also in DCS is a fairly gigantic red and white lattice tower, adjacent to the control tower. IRL, there is a grey lattice tower but its much smaller Camera position: -camera 88.824506 0.358139 93.737658 -cameradir 0.150190 -0.988621 -0.008457: The tower is next to invisible in Google Earth, but I did find this image of it: Looks to be about double the height of the control tower. In DCS however, this is what it looks like (camera position: -camera 88.888079 0.022867 93.797900 -cameradir -0.904668 0.174173 -0.388895): The other problem with this tower in particular is that its LODs make it next to invisible until it suddenly pops into view at around 1 km away (though at least, unlike the Marianas, it's not near on an approach path like Saipan's NDB).