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Hi everyone, While exploring Saipan in the Hind, I've found what could be the worst road in DCS as far as geometry goes. The road is called Tapochau road, located on Mount Tapochau and the road leads to the NOAA weather station, at what I think is Saipan's tallest peak. I'll let the images speak for themselves: -camera 188.547581 0.394330 103.314580 -cameradir -0.728861 -0.325129 0.602539: Here's a link to the Google Earth streetview of the road, looking to south, as you can see, IRL the road is nothing like as mad as it is in DCS. -camera 189.053080 0.337222 103.588116 -cameradir -0.019332 -0.245212 0.969277: And here's a streetview of the area - IRL the buildings are on top of what is essentially a small cliff, and the road curves round, with a much more gentle incline. -camera 187.930876 0.386336 103.646001 -cameradir 0.336455 -0.073660 -0.938814: This one isn't so bad, but it does highlight other problems with the geometry - the whole area kinda leaves a fair bit to be desired. The resolution is typically good, but the accuracy is definitely suffering here and many of the buildings in the area look like they've been partially engulfed by a landslide, in some cases it's so severe that at ground level you can look through the bottom of them. I wonder if it might be a good idea to have a pinned thread in the bug reports for problems with geometry, as I'm noticing in quite a few reports I'm noticing issues with the geometry, and generally it's areas being too hilly when in fact they should be flat.
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Hi everyone, Just a minor request - both Saipan and Rota Intl. airports feature airport identification beacons, that currently aren't present in DCS. Saipan Here's the FAA website page on Saipan International Airport, it includes an airport diagram, with the position of the beacon marked (the 5 pointed star). The beacon is like a small lighthouse, mounted on a guyed pole, that flashes green and white and rotates at a rate of between 24-30RPM. The beacon is active between sunrise and sunset. Source. Here's a birdseye view, taken from Google Earth, I've circled the beacon in red: And here's essentially the same shot in DCS (-camera 180.413796 0.311381 101.060448 -cameradir -0.038673 -0.999246 0.003370): Note that the beacon isn't there, and the area is instead covered with trees that aren't there. Also note the multi-faceted radome in the bottom of the image, where there is in fact a small fuel tank (at least from March 2016 onwards). Fortunately Google Earth also has a very good streetview image of the beacon: And here's the same shot in DCS (-camera 180.404211 0.066700 101.085965 -cameradir -0.004077 0.080065 -0.996781): Obviously the beacon isn't there, but also notice that the area has a load of trees and foliage that shouldn't be there (the area should just be short grass). Tinian Like Saipan, Tinian also has a similar beacon, it has the same characteristics as Saipan. Source. Here's a birdseye view of the beacon, taken from Google Earth (beacon circled in red): And here's the same shot in DCS (-camera 166.321578 0.798042 90.293875 -cameradir -0.000000 -1.000000 -0.000000): Note that this area is a dirt track - in Google Earth it just looks like a grass clearing. Rota According to this, Rota also has an airport beacon, with again, the same characteristics. It can also be seen in this airport diagram: According to this it should be in the south-western corner of the apron, however I'm unsure where it is exactly (the area is cluttered with buildings and satellite imagery doesn't make it obvious where it is, there's also no streetview of the area or images readily available). Here's a satellite image sourced from Google Earth, I've circled in yellow where I think the beacon might be: And here's the same area in DCS (-camera 75.597527 0.362317 48.815373 -cameradir -0.050311 -0.998734 0.000000):
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Hi everyone, IRL, in the north-east of Saipan, there is an abandoned Pacific Barrier (PACBAR) III RADAR, which is a fairly obvious landmark in that area of Saipan. The actual site and the roads are present, but the RADAR isn't present at all, and none of the structures look anything like their RL counterparts (the RL counterparts are actually more simple than the buildings depicted). Here's a Google Earth satellite view of the area (and here's a link to the street-view): And here's the site in DCS (-camera 194.382066 0.558637 109.098343 -cameradir -0.000000 -1.000000 0.000000): Here's a Google Earth street-view, looking to the north-east, the RADAR clearly visible: And here's essentially the same shot in DCS (-camera 194.338169 0.269159 109.105729 -cameradir 0.931103 -0.009012 0.364646): The difference should be immediately obvious: There's no RADAR (instead just a house) The buildings are located in exactly the right places, but are both incorrect. And here's the same position, but looking to the south-west: And here's more or less the same shot, in DCS (194.379694 0.272285 109.125520 -cameradir -0.908288 -0.007574 -0.418276): You can see that: The geometry is way off (the real area is flat, and extends past the road - the building and tower should not be half sunken into a large incline of terrain. To the south there should be a sharper incline (more like a sheer cliff). There's a small electrical transmission tower instead of what actually should be there - a small triangular communications tower (cellular?). There's a lack of foliage on both sides and straight ahead (straight ahead though is probably related to the incorrect geometry). Here's a street-view image of the RADAR up close: And here's the same shot in DCS (-camera 194.384782 0.271140 109.130790 -cameradir 0.993898 0.074329 -0.081495): RADAR is clearly absent. The real area is much more flat. The area is mostly concrete instead of grass. Building is completely wrong. Here's the north-eastern building, taken from the road, looking to the north-west: And here's essentially the same shot, taken in DCS (-camera 194.390025 0.270694 109.140106 -cameradir 0.423803 0.154313 -0.892512): As you can see, the building is completely different - the real building is actually a fair bit less complicated than the one depicted in DCS. As seen in the street-view, it's a simple, yellow/beige rectangular building, with just a doorway with some steps. The only other thing is a cable run/waveguide leading to the antenna. Also note the geometry, for some reason the road (which is a dirt track in DCS) is down a small, steep hill - the real site is pretty much flat, and if you follow the road to the west, there's only a gradual incline. The road where I've been taking the screenshots is at the lowest point, whereas IRL it's the highest. Here's the south-western building, taken from the road, looking to the north-east: And here's the same shot in DCS (-camera 194.341359 0.276013 109.073453 -cameradir 0.735862 -0.150807 0.660124): Note that the geometry is completely incorrect (the road on the right should be slightly above the section of road where the camera is, not down a steep incline), the building is completely wrong. There's also inconsistencies with the foliage, but the geometry errors are probably more to blame here. EDIT: Found this photo of the site, presumably when it was operational, circa mid-ish 80s.
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Hi everyone, In DCS, Saipan has numerous radomes where there should actually be tanks of some description. In many cases these radomes are much larger than whatever tank is there in real life, making them quite obvious, even from relatively far away. Agingan Point: Saipan International Airport: Tanks east of Garapan: Tanks next to Puerto Rico Drive, near Puerto Rico/Tanapag Harbour: Tanks on the grounds of an industrial facility, near Tanapag Harbour: Tank on Route 320 near San Roque:
