Things are Pretty Quiet

[Phantom88]

Sorry, I read the question previously and left the window open to answer and then went off and forgot. :megalol:

 

Yeah; GA is on board for the Launch Trailer. He's an awesome dude who deserves all the credit in the world for being easy to work and reach an arrangement with. :)

 

Ohhh This is Going to Be G R E A T:thumbup:

[Mode1961]

http://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=7011177

 

http://www.leatherneck-sim.com

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=7011183

 

As has mentioned multiple times previously; the promo phase will kick into full gear very shortly.

We don't enjoy posting tons of pics and videos of half-baked stuff, especially with stuff that is obviously (visually) half-implemented.

 

Maybe what people don't understand is how at this stage, things are visually only half baked, there was mentioned that things could be done in a matter of days but you are taking your time to get it right in terms of distribution etc.

 

I thought you said the visual stuff is done and now you are doing bug testing and stuff.

[Azrayen]

http://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=7011177

 

(...)

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/search.php?searchid=7011183

 

Hi Cobra,

 

Just a side note: you can't post links to search results on vBulletin boards, they got "cancelled" pretty quickly, and guys clicking on them will only get "Sorry - no matches".

Been there, tried that... ;)

[Paganus]

Maybe what people don't understand is how at this stage, things are visually only half baked, there was mentioned that things could be done in a matter of days but you are taking your time to get it right in terms of distribution etc.

 

I thought you said the visual stuff is done and now you are doing bug testing and stuff.

 

I think the answer is that different team members are working on different aspects of the plane.

 

The "art" guys work on the model and texture all the time. Making improvements and adding detail, etc.

 

The "programmer" guys are writing the code that runs behind the scenes making dials spin and making the thing fly like a plane.

 

They don't merge all this stuff together very often. So the programmer guys might be looking at 6 month old art in the version they use for testing. If they make a video showing how the plane fly's in the sim that video would contain old art.

 

Once they pull it all together into 1 unified build they can take pics and record videos for their official media blitz.

[Cobra847]

I think the answer is that different team members are working on different aspects of the plane.

 

The "art" guys work on the model and texture all the time. Making improvements and adding detail, etc.

 

The "programmer" guys are writing the code that runs behind the scenes making dials spin and making the thing fly like a plane.

 

They don't merge all this stuff together very often. So the programmer guys might be looking at 6 month old art in the version they use for testing. If they make a video showing how the plane fly's in the sim that video would contain old art.

 

Once they pull it all together into 1 unified build they can take pics and record videos for their official media blitz.

 

Pretty much sums it up.

 

As an example, a lot of assets have been built in Max but simply haven't been integrated with the other main components. Another example would be the liveries that are done, but we haven't gone through the time-consuming task of exporting them all because should there be any changes to the base texture, we have to do it all over again. This is fairly typical of software development. It all comes together at the very very end.

 

The notion was that if we HAD TO; we can have it ready in 2-3 days.

 

Right now there are a bunch of cylinders floating outside the cockpit because we are integrating the new pilot and a bunch of other assets.

Not an optimal situation for screenshots.

[REPUBLICANO]

My god... Is a non end...

[Sceptre]

if we HAD TO we can have it ready in 2-3 days.

 

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

[f-18hornet]

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

 

Don't worry F-5 will be next.:D;)

[CypherGrunyev]

The notion was that if we HAD TO; we can have it ready in 2-3 days.

 

.. Then do it?

[Cobra847]

.. Then do it?

 

...at the expense of quality. If it wasn't obvious.

[Nate--IRL--]

For me, quality is paramount, I'm prepared to wait.

 

Nate

[mig29movt]

:doh:

What a struggle.

Hope you guys will have some relief once it's done and not a shift to patching related stress

[spud3030]

+1 when it's ready , I still have FC2 with the original '21 on my pc for my hit.

For me, quality is paramount, I'm prepared to wait.

 

Nate

 

 

 

spud

[cz_jc]

I'm glad someone finally said it and it didn't have to be me.

On the other hand, I'd much rather see this in 2 years in hog level quality than at an entirely different quality level in 'beta forever' (just don't want to get my post deleted but I'm sure people know damn well what I'm talking about - the 'DCS' level of quality label lost its meaning unfortunately.).

 

I'm a software developer as well and I'd not only get fired if I did what you guys did but I'd probably have hard time ever working in this business again.

 

Just to clarify: the fact that the project is taking a lot of time isn't the problem in my view. It's the unbelievable public relations stunts behind it.

 

Whatever, I'll still buy the mig anyway, it looks really awesome. Finally a first actual fighter aircraft for DCS with an actual radar (had to say it as well).

 

Just to put more positivity here: I'm sure once ED gets the alternative maps working and we get more air to air aircraft, DCS is going to be an epic platform. If we get something like Falcon AF had I'd be one very happy customer.

 

It is hard not be skeptical given the history of flight sim development in general and the history of this project in particular. Was it not just late January when a firm "no later than March 31st" release date was announced only to be followed a week later by potential cancellation of the entire project? I look forward to the release of the MiG-21 as much or more than I looked forward to the release of Target, Fighter Ops, or Jet Thunder, and unlike those projects I even put some money down. Of course, the money was thrown away as it did not get to the real developers and as yet I have no MiG-21 in hand.

 

When the MiG-21bis is on my hard drive and working as well or better than promised, I will lose my skepticism and hand over some money to comp the developers despite my prior wasted funds. Until then, all I expect are more delays and excuses.

本帖最后于2014年5月18日，由cz_jc编辑

[NineLine]

You are mad because this forum isnt for discussing political topics?? Your post is a little confusing, but if you have an issue with the forum and its policies I suggest you PM a mod or team member instead of using this post to do so. For one, Leatherneck doesnt make the rules for this forum....

[cz_jc]

Well as far as I've noticed (been checking every week or so regularly), the message appeared in there right around the time the beczl studios -> leatherneck change happened so it made me think you meant that as opposed to actual political issues. If it is actually to do with political issues in the right sense of the word then I apologize for making the wrong conclusions (although I don't know why would that have to be there).

(i've removed it from my post, sorry. please feel free to delete this one as well.)

 

You are mad because this forum isnt for discussing political topics?? Your post is a little confusing, but if you have an issue with the forum and its policies I suggest you PM a mod or team member instead of using this post to do so. For one, Leatherneck doesnt make the rules for this forum....

本帖最后于2014年5月18日，由cz_jc编辑

[NineLine]

It appeared when things started happening in the Ukraine, and one last time, any more issues please use the PM system.

[BlackDog601]

[cichlidfan]

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Don't you hate it when you post a bad link to a tired old 'Still Waiting' image? ;)

本帖最后于2014年5月18日，由cichlidfan编辑

[spidergeo]

Don't you hate it when you post a bad link to a tired old 'Still Waiting' image? ;)

 

Well, it works for me...

Edit: Well i'm very stupid...sorry :)

本帖最后于2014年5月18日，由spidergeo编辑

[swe_badger]

I've been well for over a year but I'm getting the MiG-fever again, at least this time I'll get the cure as promised. =)

[Hans-Joachim Marseille]

It's almost summer and my gaming rig is getting respite. Autum release is soon enough.

[Devious]

Just wanted to re-sound my support. GO TEAM LEATHERNECK!! You Can Do It!!

[SilentSierra]

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本帖最后于2016年4月13日，由SilentSierra编辑

[Flagrum]

How is the work on that video progressing that was mentioned some days ago?