9.JG27 DavidRed Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 so sith, are you our new community manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo_laredo Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 ok.... Its disapointing to see a another 3rd party developer just go away... Makes one wonder if there's something wrong with the whole 3rd party process. My faith in crowd founding, at least in DCS its non-existant at this point. Hope you guys can figure out whats wrong and start improving the development process. Its been years.. since 3rd party development was anounced and only belsimtek (partner of ED) delivered 1 chopper and another in Beta. Thanks for ED to support us backers, I just hope this doesnt slow down the process of EDge, nevada and the F-18 P.S. This post should also be in the non backer section of the forum, theres still a few who dont have access here. If RRG departure was for politial/security/personal issues, I hope the best for them A.K.A. Timon -117th- in game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Other detail, and the follow WW2 Kickstarter projects? can be them lost on the Oblivion and go to Graveyard, or can be retake in the future by ED on a Far Future? Follow projects (from KickStarter): Theathers: East Front Theather Romania Theater West Front Theather Normandy extension to South England Ardenes Theater Aircrafts Hawker Typhoon IB FW-190A-5 Douglas A-26B-15 Invader Lockheed P-38J-15 Havilland Mosquito FB.VI Boeing B-17 A flyable Luftwaffe plane (Me 410 A or Ju 88, as voted for by the backers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2014 so sith, are you our new community manager? No, I am still the same old me :) The Community Manager thing was for RRG, I dont think that is position anymore. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9.JG27 DavidRed Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 ok, the same old you is acceptable as well :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siipperi Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 ok.... Its disapointing to see a another 3rd party developer just go away... Makes one wonder if there's something wrong with the whole 3rd party process. Yes and no. I think majority of 3rd party devs aren't just big enough and dont have experience to dev dcs level sim as fast as we consumers would want. Thanks for update to update Wags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Somehow i feel sad for Luthier. Hopefully he get third change somewhere...great to hear project still continues and cockpit shots looks awesome! CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komemiute Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Somehow i feel sad for Luthier. Hopefully he get third change somewhere...great to hear project still continues and cockpit shots looks awesome! I don't know what to think. Had Luthier announced this himself, had he been more honest about the situation ( I doubt it reached this overnight ) and the Cliffs of Dover business been different... I could have given him a thidd chance. I pushed my luck with this kickstarter project... He better never come around with another flight sim project, I know for sure I'll not be forgiving. EDIT: I mean... maybe Ubisoft was right at shutting the development of CloD... maybe, just maybe, they saw that it would've never been fulfilled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeSprawvy Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Thank you for the update and the beautiful screenshots! I am sorry to hear things did not work out as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2014 Guys, lets not go down a path of discussing Luthier or RRG. Its not really open for discussion here. Thanks guys. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 See the update in the announcement. Thanks for pointing out the updated update Sith. It did answer part question. Although the impact is minimal it still begs the question just where are things with the F-18C. Will we get any news on that front at all this year now. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2014 Thanks for pointing out the updated update Sith. It did answer part question. Although the impact is minimal it still begs the question just where are things with the F-18C. Will we get any news on that front at all this year now. I am sure when ED has something new on the F/A-18C, we will hear about it, but sorta off-topic here ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Guys, lets not go down a path of discussing Luthier or RRG. Its not really open for discussion here. Thanks guys. I appreciate that sith and I can understand your reasoning for not going over what has already happened. But can we establish what will happen to the cash donated to the KS. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upupandaway Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I am sure when ED has something new on the F/A-18C, we will hear about it, but sorta off-topic here ;) Cool, and also thanks for responding to the concerns about that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlerkies Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 ok.... Its disapointing to see a another 3rd party developer just go away... Makes one wonder if there's something wrong with the whole 3rd party process. I would not overreact, for instance, I want Belsimtek to have my babies, they are awesome, and I have FULL confidence in Wags and ED as a whole. We don't know the full story, and no matter what it is, it wont make a dent in my faith I have with ED. Sometimes things just don't go according to plan and I find it comforting that ED have taken the initiative. :thumbup: Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Thanks for the update, beautiful shots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) I appreciate that sith and I can understand your reasoning for not going over what has already happened. But can we establish what will happen to the cash donated to the KS. ED is doing their best to honor the KS as stated in the announcement, that is all I know. Edited June 19, 2014 by NineLine edited to word like the announcement Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipBall Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Again my gut feeling turned out to be correct...I wish the project well and hope that luthier will be OK too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I'm going to be very cautious in backing other 3rd parties doing DCS modules from now on.. MiG-21 and now this.. :( Intel 5820k | Asus X-99A | Crucial 16GB | Powercolor Devil RX580 8GB | Win 10 x64 | Oculus Rift | https://gallery.ksotov.co.uk Patiently waiting for: DCS: Panavia Tornado, DCS: SA-2 Guideline, DCS: SA-3 Goa, DCS: S-300 Grumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 ED is honoring the KS as stated in the announcement, that is all I know. That is really all that matters. Anything else is between ED and RRG. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrim Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I disagree. I funded RRG because they would develop this. Now it's gone over to ED. Disappointing. But if ED didn't get the remaining funds, then it's just too much. If RRG still has all of that money, despite only doing a small fraction of what they undertook, I very much doubt the legality of it, not to mention the morality. I knew of the risks they advertised, but I doubt that all the money's been spent already. More importantly than all is how ED will manage financially. I can take the hit on 40-50 dollars, but I would be horrified to see all of those 150,000 dollars not only bring kept by someone who has not done even 10% of what was advertised, but that money also indirectly crippling ED if they have to finish this large project with no financial backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upupandaway Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Just don´t expect anyone to share too much information about internal and financial details if the MiG-21 is any indicator. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlerkies Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I disagree. I funded RRG because they would develop this. Now it's gone over to ED. Disappointing. But if ED didn't get the remaining funds, then it's just too much. If RRG still has all of that money, despite only doing a small fraction of what they undertook, I very much doubt the legality of it, not to mention the morality. I knew of the risks they advertised, but I doubt that all the money's been spent already. More importantly than all is how ED will manage financially. I can take the hit on 40-50 dollars, but I would be horrified to see all of those 150,000 dollars not only bring kept by someone who has not done even 10% of what was advertised, but that money also indirectly crippling ED if they have to finish this large project with no financial backing. The mother of all F -ups is to assume anything. Sit back relax and take solace in the fact that ED has clearly stated they will continue with the project. At the end of the day, that's all that is important really, even if it takes a bit longer. 1 Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongodriver Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Well now that Luthier is out of the picture there is simply no good reason to even ever mention him here again, ED have picked up the batton and are graciously honouring the kickstarter pledges and that is that, we never need to hear of broken promises again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlerkies Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Well now that Luthier is out of the picture there is simply no good reason to even ever mention him here again, ED have picked up the batton and are graciously honouring the kickstarter pledges and that is that, we never need to hear of broken promises again. We don't know why he is out, so lets not get the tar and feathers out either for the guy. Lets just be happy ED is taking over from where he left off. Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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