ED Team NineLine Posted June 28, 2014 ED Team Share Posted June 28, 2014 http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/must-watch-first-full-trailer-for-david-ayers-wwii-tank-movie-fury/ Looks interesting.... but then again... it has Shia LaBeouf :doh: Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Maybe that tank can transform into a robot :thumbup: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptre Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 go to 1:17 exactly that explosion sounds incredibly familiar for some reason.... :P RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB DDR4 2666 RAM | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.2Ghz | Asrock X570 | CH Fighterstick/Pro Throttle | TM MFDs | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Sherman Vs Tiger? Seriously ?:)) Come on Tiger is the beast Thats a Sherman *Firefly* it could knock the armor of the regular Tiger. Btw have a look to the distance they have each to other .... i mean they could actually throw Handgrenades. Edited July 2, 2014 by Isegrim "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre-TLA Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Not enough good tank movies around. I loved Kelly's Hero's! :) MapleFlagMissions - Read Our Blog for Updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 2, 2014 Author ED Team Share Posted July 2, 2014 Tiger never went up against Brad Pitt and Hollywood it seems... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yes i know those Documentations ...i didnt have a complete look but isnt that the one where was said that the Sherman was the better tank cause 5 of them could beat 1 Tiger? "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I Know but still Tiger would eat Firefly for breakfast..... Not even close :) The Firefly's 17-pounder Gun outperformed the Tiger's 88mm L/56. The only gun which could maybe come close was the 88mm L/71 but that was on the King Tiger. Make no mistake, the Firefly kicked the Tiger's ass. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus_G Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 The effectiveness of tank is not only a big gun it is combination of all systems , so Tiger is fare superior to any tank in WW2 even famous Russian T-34-85 , the only reason it is being defeated is rate of production its opponents. Have you ever heard the story of "200 Russian tanks"? Однако наиболее результативным считается непрямой разгром батальона Тигра под Фастовом. Батальон был переброшен к фронту для ликвидации прорыва. Не доезжая до линии фронта Тигры увидели разбитую немецкую колонну. Посередине разгрома высился вбитый в землю столб, на котором белела записка: "Прорвали линию фронта, теперь мочим вас, козлов, в сортире. Если не слабо - ждем вас на высоте 235.7. Двести русских танков". Проехав двадцать километров, и бросив по дороге две неисправных машины, Тигры нашли на высоте 235.7 раздавленную немецкую бтарею и новую записку: "Ждали вас, ждали, задолбало. мы теперь в деревне Убитое. Будем ждать вас там, если успеете. Двести русских танков" проехав сорок километров, и потеряв еще четыре танка, Тигры приехали в деревню Убитое. В деревне они нашли только немецкий автопарк, распаханый гусеницами и третью записку: "Ну вы и сыкуны! два часа вас ждали, задолбались! Короче, ждем вас прямо в Фастове, если уж и туда не поспеете, то козлы вы все и слабаки". Напрягая силы, Тигры на последних каплях бензина доползли до Фастова, оставив на обочинах еще шесть поврежденных машин, где и нашли последнюю записку: "Гы-ы-ы, круто мы вас накололи? Красная армия уже на сто километров продвинулась, а нас самих было не двести, а только сто!" Оставшиеся тигры покончили с собой от позора и огорчения. I'm sorry, can't take this stuff seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFJackBauer Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Not even close :) The Firefly's 17-pounder Gun outperformed the Tiger's 88mm L/56. The only gun which could maybe come close was the 88mm L/71 but that was on the King Tiger. Make no mistake, the Firefly kicked the Tiger's ass. I think his statement that "Tiger would eat Firefly for breakfast....." still holds true as it points that the Firefly armor was no match to the 88mm at any range. But the French landscape + a number of other factors (thankfully) never favoured the sniping Tiger, so... BTW a lovely site for WW2 buffs - http://tarrif.net/ (click the flags at the top) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) Not even close :) The Firefly's 17-pounder Gun outperformed the Tiger's 88mm L/56. The only gun which could maybe come close was the 88mm L/71 but that was on the King Tiger. Make no mistake, the Firefly kicked the Tiger's ass. Uhhmmm no Viper i cant really agree with that. They have been more or less a match. The Firefly still did have trouble to knock the Hull and Turret front of the tiger in many situations. That why they dropped down the Pershing at the end. Edited July 3, 2014 by Isegrim "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Best thing about this movie is that they used a real Tiger I (from the Bovington tank museum, the only operational one of the 6 or so left worldwide), and not a dressed-up tank like in "White Tiger" or "Saving Private Ryan". They also made the script leaner, so that the Sherman will face 1 Tiger instead of 3 (orginal script). I'm looking forward to this one ... probably will watch it in the States when it releases on October 17. Edited September 21, 2014 by Hans-Joachim Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Tiger 131, featured in the movie. The last "operational" Tiger I, from the Bovington tank museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Looks 'hmm GI JOE !!!' no thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Looks 'hmm GI JOE !!!' no thxWhy is that? I think the script became much better after they changed the "1 Sherman against 3 Tigers" to "1 Sherman against 1 Tiger". Granted, it's not a Sherman Firefly (it's a Sherman Easy Eight), but at close range it could still do serious damage to the Tiger. And I think the Americans are not portraied as heros per se (given that Pitt's character encourages the young gunner to smash a captured German soldier's head with a tomahawk). I'm still waiting for a film based on the book "Le Soldat Oblié" (: "The Forgotten Soldier") by Guy Sajer, but that won't happen anytime soon. Just enjoy the Tiger's roar. Edited October 3, 2014 by Hans-Joachim Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOnTheOP Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Thats a Sherman *Firefly* No, it is not. It is an M4A3(E8 ), the Easy Eight of late war (and Korea) fame. You can see the distinct running gear (the Horizontal Volute Spring Suspension and different return rollers) at 0:19 and 0:40 (oh... I should have looked past the first post or two before replying... would've saved much typing!) The A3 versions and later had wet ammo stowage, which fixed the infamous "ronson" effect (which was caused by ammo propellant cooking off, NOT by the gasoline fuel- and the Panzer IV statistically burned just as easily as the pre-A3 Shermans). It has a 76mm high velocity gun, M1; which had superior penetration to the 88L56 as used by Tiger I, particularly when the 76mm HVAP ammunition was utilized. The M1 had performance very similar to the British OQF 17 pounder- the 17lb had higher propellant capacity, but somewhat less effective ammunition (the 17lb APDS had significantly better penetration at very close ranges, but TERRIBLE accuracy) Armour on the Easy Eight was significantly improved, and while not quite up to the Tiger's all-round armour, was damn close. People mistakenly believe Sherman was a weakly armoured tank; it was not. Some of the (appears to be CG) tanks in other cuts appear to be M4A3(76)(W), as they have the older vertical volute spring suspension Edited October 3, 2014 by OutOnTheOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Sherman tanks were nicknamed "Tommy cookers" :P The water bags around the ammunition OutOnTheOp refers to would make it a M4A3E8(76)W HVSS. To be fair, the Sherman had a better gearbox than the Tiger, easier maintenance and was less costly to produce. The Tiger's Maybach engine was designed for aircraft, so it didn't quite have the cooling capacity (being lighter). The Tiger did field a powerful 88 mm gun, great protection all-around and prowess. Allied troops are reported to have run from it's sight alone, and many other German tanks were mistaken for Tigers. Edited October 3, 2014 by Hans-Joachim Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOnTheOP Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Sherman tanks were nicknamed "Tommy cookers" :P The water bags around the ammunition OutOnTheOp refers to would make it a M4A3E8(76)W HVSS No, it would not. It would make it an M4A3E8. All M4A3E8 had 76mm gun, all M4A3E8 had wet ammo stowage, and all M4A3E8 had HVSS. The (76) and (W) were only used for lower-block M4A3, to differentiate them from the M4A3 that had 75mm gun M3 (but wet stowage) (which would be M4A3(W)). You could refer to it as M4A3E8(76)(W)HVSS, but the additional equipment designators are an alternate to the E-series number, not in addition to it. Given the mouthful that is, it's easy to see why they became known simply as "easy eight" And come to think of it, I believe I made a mistake in designation, myself. I'm pretty sure ALL M4A3 with 76mm gun were designated M4A3(76) (because, if I remember correctly, all 76mm gun turreted M4A3 had wet stowage, so the W would be extraneous in that case, too) Also, they weren't bags, per se. The ammo was stored in the base of the turret (instead of in the sponsons above the tracks as earlier models), in a vertical "honeycomb" metal structure with a water-glycol mix filling the gaps between the individual cavities for the shells. As to the power of the 88L56... the 76L57 outperformed it in armour penetration with the ammunition in use by each side contemporaneously (76mm HVAP: 139mm at 500 m, 127mm at 1,000; 88mm APCBC: 110mm at 500m, 99mm at 1,000m). The 88L56 DID have an APCR (essentially the same construction as HVAP) round available which outperformed the 76mm HVAP, but tungsten was in such high demand in Germany for machine tools that almost none of the German APCR was produced or used... particularly later on. The US didn't issue TONS of HVAP, but by the time the M4A3E8 was in use, each tank would have had 2-5 rounds on hand (which the crew would reserve for the tougher targets like Tiger). Keep in mind, up until the end of the war, the majority of German tanks were the PzKw IV. The Sherman bested the IV in pretty much ever metric. Edited October 4, 2014 by OutOnTheOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicatt Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 We have a Sherman Firefly as a war memorial here in Hechtel-Eksel, the next town over Leopoldsburg also has one. Hechtel-Eksel: Leopoldsburg: Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 The movie was terrible. And I really approached it with a "this is an action movie" mindset. If you know the typical horror movie "let's split!" motive then this is exactly what you can expect from this one. Battle-hardened SS-weterans flocking right before the Shermans main machine gun like Afghans in the last scene of the 9th Company http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417397/ Apparently someone thinks even a glimpse of common sense turns a movie into a complete box office failure. Screw this. https://akaagar.github.io/briefing-room-for-dcs/ F-5E simpit project https://forum.dcs.world/topic/318106-f-5e-simpit-cockpit-dimensions-and-flight-controls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericoh Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) The movie was terrible. And I really approached it with a "this is an action movie" mindset. If you know the typical horror movie "let's split!" motive then this is exactly what you can expect from this one. Battle-hardened SS-weterans flocking right before the Shermans main machine gun like Afghans in the last scene of the 9th Company http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417397/ Apparently someone thinks even a glimpse of common sense turns a movie into a complete box office failure. Screw this. I have to agree to this, it was a kinda "fun" movie. But hell... :doh: You know a bad script when the movie relys on mindless "enemies". Edited December 6, 2014 by ericoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flycat Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 the producer is the fan of super hero comic book. it told a story that Firefly Man destroy the evil Professor Tiger and his minions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haukka81 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 This movie starts nice, but after that it comes to unreal uber patriot Hollywood pile of crap.. :( Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I was looking forward to seing this movie but now that I read your comments I am not so excited any more... I hate war movies that are just Hollywood's piles of crap No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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