Random Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I'm still finding it impossible to use the trimmer with my G940, its like I can only trim to extremes. Either central or full deflection Am I doing something wrong? or is this a known issue and being worked on? Controls are set as following: FFB on Swap Axis OFF Invert X OFF Invery Y OFF Trimmer force : 100 Shake force: 50 Central trimmer mode OFF Rudder trim ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Have you configured any curves? If so, don't do that - that messes up the trimming logic somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Only for rudder AFAIK. Will double check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Yep that sorted it! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Yep that sorted it! Thanks! Cool! :o) I wondered about this myself, too. Maybe it is a bug, I don't know. But it seems that the FFB trimming logic ignores the curves while the joystick input takes them into account. If you have a curve that, lets say, gives 0% steering input for 0% pysical deflection (i.e. centered) and 70% steering input for 50% physical deflection and 100% for 100%. To me it seems, as if DCS treats it this way: physical deflection 50% --> applying curves --> virtual stick 70% pressing trimm DCS: "hey, FFB stick, trimm yourself at 70%!" I could understand this behaviour if the curves were set in the joystick driver software and DCS would know nothing about them. But imo DCS could simply translate the curves back: virtual stick 70% --> inverse curves applying --> "Hey, FFB stick, trimm at 50%!" oh well. :o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kifter Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I think probably the simplest method would be for the DCS software to just take the raw coordinates of the sticks position and set that as the FFB trim position. This opproach is highly simplistic and just works... Just as proof try checking out simFFB. It does exactly what I described above and it works great. Only problem with this software is it doesn't integrate in any way with DCS. So when you trim, the FFB works great but the avionics of your aircraft don't respond to that trim command. So for Blackshark I would enable the flight director for MI-8 just don't enable the heading trim channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) I think probably the simplest method would be for the DCS software to just take the raw coordinates of the sticks position and set that as the FFB trim position. This opproach is highly simplistic and just works... Just as proof try checking out simFFB. It does exactly what I described above and it works great. Only problem with this software is it doesn't integrate in any way with DCS. So when you trim, the FFB works great but the avionics of your aircraft don't respond to that trim command. So for Blackshark I would enable the flight director for MI-8 just don't enable the heading trim channel. Hrm, that is quite awkward. I would not want to give up on the actual trim functionality of the respectve helo. ESPECALLY not in the Blackshark - resorting to only using the FD is not gonna cut it. I know SimFFB and have used it extensively. But if you use the same button for trim in SimFFB and in the DCS mapping, you end up with the curves issue again as the "set new trim position" command of DCS overrides the position SimFFB has set. For me, in any case, the only acceptable workaround for this issue is to not use any curves on my FFB stick when flying helos. Edited August 10, 2014 by Flagrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverofx441 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Have you configured any curves? If so, don't do that - that messes up the trimming logic somehow. Yep that sorted it! Thanks! Good God! Me too!:thumbup: Intel i5 2500K 4.2 Ghz GTX560 Ti Twin Frozr ii 16 Gb DDR3 RAM Win 7 64 bit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatikus Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Will this issue with custom curves be ever fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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