AWACS and SABRE

[Angel101]

Hi there, I have problems trying to contac with AWACS in the Sabre. I set (in editor) the same frequency for the AWACS and the radio channel of the sabre... I can hear it moving from waypoints and also calling for contacts but there is no option in my radio menu for AWACS, so I can´t ask for a picture.

 

Options are set for realistic use of radios.

 

Any idea? maybe is a bug?

[Flagrum]

Technically spoken, the F-86F module is not configured to use AWACS or JTACs. This could be an oversight/bug by BST. Or it is becase at the time the Sabre flew those did not exist, yet, and thus "historical authentic"?

[Davis0079]

yeah, but a radio channel is a radio channel....the fact that the radio is on a plane that did not exists when the F-86 flew in combat is a mute point...I know not what radios the F-86 has(buying it and the 190 today)...but if it has a VHF or a UHF radio(should have both?), you should get awacs calls on the right channels if an awacs is in the air...BST should consider this..

Edited August 16, 2014 by Davis0079

[El Hadji]

Just assign the AWACS frequency to one of the channels on the AN/ARC-27 using the mission editor. Then using the rotary switch in the F-86 you can tune to this channel and talk to the AWACS plane. At least that is how I do it...

[Flagrum]

The problem in DCS is, that whatever you say to an AI pilot has to be scripted. How shall the radio know what you are gonna say? You can only select the available options in the comms menu - but if that is not scripted, you "can not speak". :o)

 

edit:

But you can try this: open the file C:\Games\DCS\Mods\aircrafts\F-86\comm.lua in Notepad++ and scroll down to the very end. Then insert the red line:

 

        
       return tbl
   end,
   builders = {}
}

utils.verifyChunk(utils.loadfileIn('Scripts/UI/RadioCommandDialogPanel/Config/Common/ATC.lua', getfenv()))(5, {['Airdrome'] = true, ['Helipad'] = true} )
[color=Red]utils.verifyChunk(utils.loadfileIn('Scripts/UI/RadioCommandDialogPanel/Config/Common/AWACS.lua', getfenv()))(7, {tanker = false, radar = false})[/color]
utils.verifyChunk(utils.loadfileIn('Scripts/UI/RadioCommandDialogPanel/Config/Common/Ground Crew.lua', getfenv()))(8)

 

That should give you the corresponding F7 menu entry.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have NOT tested this, yet. Also apply the usual safety precautions for altering DCS files. Use at your own risk! :o)

Edited August 16, 2014 by Flagrum

[Angel101]

Just assign the AWACS frequency to one of the channels on the AN/ARC-27 using the mission editor. Then using the rotary switch in the F-86 you can tune to this channel and talk to the AWACS plane. At least that is how I do it...

 

 

Yes I do that, but using the comms menu or microphone switch, AWACs doesn´t appear in the menu for talk with him, but I can hear him, so I´m in the same frequency 100% sure.

 

EDIT: I only have this options.

 

 

And at the same time I can hear a BRA call from AWACs.

Edited August 16, 2014 by Angel101

[Angel101]

Can anyone see the Awacs in the menu and request a picture?

[Flagrum]

Can anyone see the Awacs in the menu and request a picture?

see my edit of my previous posting.

[Angel101]

see my edit of my previous posting.

Thanks, I'm going to check.

[El Hadji]

You are right guys... No option in the menu. My bad!

[Zychon]

yeah, but a radio channel is a radio channel....the fact that the radio is on a plane that did not exists when the F-86 flew in combat is a mute point...I know not what radios the F-86 has(buying it and the 190 today)...but if it has a VHF or a UHF radio(should have both?), you should get awacs calls on the right channels if an awacs is in the air...BST should consider this..

 

Makes sense to me. I can use my NVGs in my P-51, after all.

[Antorian]

Is there a way to get other options added to the radio menu? I'm using a trigger to add a radio button to the menu but it doesn't appear in the radio menu of the F-86. I'm assuming its similar to the process outlined in this thread.

[Antorian]

Nevermind. I answered my own question. you want to add

 

utils.verifyChunk(utils.loadfileIn('Scripts/UI/RadioCommandDialogPanel/Config/Common/JTAC.lua', getfenv()))(4)

 

to the comm file.

[stray cat]

I have added the line for AWACS and it does appear on the menu but greyed out. Since I have easy communication on I can still navigate the options and ask for picture, but the AWACS (ground radar in this case) does never respond.

Is there some radio frequency stuff I have to set?

[ApoNOOB]

I have added the line for AWACS and it does appear on the menu but greyed out. Since I have easy communication on I can still navigate the options and ask for picture, but the AWACS (ground radar in this case) does never respond.

Is there some radio frequency stuff I have to set?

 

Yes there is an extra tab for it in the mission editor when you select the aircraft. (like ordnance&waypoint tab) There you can set up the frequencys for the different radio channels.

[stray cat]

I think there is a problem with that. The AWACS plane has 1-124MHZ while the f86 channels only allow setting from frequencies above 200 somethings.

Also should that not be even an issue at all with easy comms?

[dooom]

The problem in DCS is, that whatever you say to an AI pilot has to be scripted. How shall the radio know what you are gonna say? You can only select the available options in the comms menu - but if that is not scripted, you "can not speak". :o)

 

edit:

But you can try this: open the file C:\Games\DCS\Mods\aircrafts\F-86\comm.lua in Notepad++ and scroll down to the very end. Then insert the red line:

 

        
       return tbl
   end,
   builders = {}
}

utils.verifyChunk(utils.loadfileIn('Scripts/UI/RadioCommandDialogPanel/Config/Common/ATC.lua', getfenv()))(5, {['Airdrome'] = true, ['Helipad'] = true} )
[color=Red]utils.verifyChunk(utils.loadfileIn('Scripts/UI/RadioCommandDialogPanel/Config/Common/AWACS.lua', getfenv()))(7, {tanker = false, radar = false})[/color]
utils.verifyChunk(utils.loadfileIn('Scripts/UI/RadioCommandDialogPanel/Config/Common/Ground Crew.lua', getfenv()))(8)

 

That should give you the corresponding F7 menu entry.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have NOT tested this, yet. Also apply the usual safety precautions for altering DCS files. Use at your own risk! :o)

 

... I have a question about this - I'd like to put GCI into some of my scenarios with 190/p51/f86 etc... however I am unsure if your suggestion will work in a MP environment? Would all clients have to modify their Lua as prescribed above or is the "fix" bundled with a MP mission when i compile it upon hitting save?