theGozr Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The FFB of the Sabre has constant forces no shakes or different forces. This was broken from last update and not been fixed yet. FFB of the F-86F Sabre and MiG-21 are missing or completely corrupted. Can we ask about the status of this fix ? Thank you greatly, Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 +1 No FFB for me either with the MSFFB2. It works fine with every other DCS module. P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 The MiG-21 is fixed but not the F-86 Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team cofcorpse Posted October 19, 2014 ED Team Share Posted October 19, 2014 Hello guys! Could you explain what the problem is? Or maybe some links to forum threads with description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Ok well I'm using FFB2 from M$ and while flying the F-86 and this I think from two updates ago do not have FFB sensitivity , Just have a single force from take off to high speed it is the same force apply to stick and no shakes or buffers effects.. Something broke along an update. Tell me how I could help..? ( I'm really looking for the Rudder fix and FFB ) I hope asap, Thank you greatly. Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team cofcorpse Posted October 19, 2014 ED Team Share Posted October 19, 2014 Ok well I'm using FFB2 from M$ and while flying the F-86 and this I think from two updates ago do not have FFB sensitivity Thank you for reply. Do you have trim effect on your stick? We will check this, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Trim effect ? ( Meaning stick change angle while triming ? ) Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team cofcorpse Posted October 19, 2014 ED Team Share Posted October 19, 2014 Trim effect ? ( Meaning stick change angle while triming ? ) Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yes while trimming the stick goes up or down.. Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) As pilot i can tell you .. you can buy a 1000$ Joystick but if it doesn't have FFB it's worth nothing to me. FFB forces is what is the closest from RL and to appreciate the F-86 is very important to give FFB some TLC :) Thank you Edited October 19, 2014 by theGozr Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 The cockpit trim switch adjusts my joystick's centering position, but when I try to assign trim to a joystick button nothing happens. P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 lets us know if you need the FFB to be tested. We can help. Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red777 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I bought the F-86 this week end and to my disappointment, there is no force feedback on my MS FFB 2. Only the default centering force... I think it's a big concerne for us, because like theGozr said, for me too you can bring any other expensive joystick on the market, if it doesn't have force feedback it worth nothing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Any news? on the ETA for the FFB Fix and as well for the Rudder FM fix ? Thank you Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Fixed yet ? Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckle Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Hi, has this issue been corrected yet? As above, I have full ffb effects in Mustang, but only constant centring force in Sabre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatikus Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Just bought the F86 ... no FFB effect ... Mig15 is shaking but in F86 I can see only visual buffeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatikus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I have attached text from flight manual where it confirms that we should feel forces on the stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvergh0st Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Same problem here FFB trim works ie repositions stick central position but otherwise it appears to be a constant spring force independant of speed and with no stall shake etc. I hope this is a bug that you are going to fix cos I wouldn't have bought the module if it was meant to be like this. Your HUEY and Mi-8 are absolutely wonderful models. I really hope you are going to make this FFB work as it should. Silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) I hope this is a bug that you are going to fix cos I wouldn't have bought the module if it was meant to be like this. The MiG-15 bis flight control surfaces are controlled mechanically (without hydraulic actuators), hence the pilot feels aerodynamic forces and buffet through the stick. The F-86F ailerons and horizontal tail are actuated by irreversible hyd. controls. The stick has adjustable springs and a pendulum weight for an artificial stick 'feel', hence the pilot does NOT feel aerodynamic forces or buffet through the stick. I really hope you are going to make this FFB work as it should. AFAIK FFB already works realistically. Air frame vibration due to buffet, etc. might be added as a FFB effect but it's inclusion wouldn't be realistic and FFB effects open up to include touchdown shocks, runway vibrations and weapon recoil, etc. which IMHO, are better simulated using simshaker, etc. Edited July 24, 2017 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatikus Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Ramsay, the problem with BST F86 is that is does NOT simulate what you wrote it should. The FFB stick acts as normal spring joystick. There is ZERO change in force in speed and G variation and that is the reason I posted description from real F86F manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiatek Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Question for FFB flyuers. With FF effect ON trim work as it should? I found with my Evo Force that with FF ON trim is simulated in cocpit - hat on stick work and stick is moveable but very slowly. Horizontal stabilizer doesnt change postion at all ( external view). When i disable FF effect - trim work as it should - hat on stick is move, stick in cocpit is move quite fast and horizontal stabilizer change postion. Still when i fly with FF ON plane fly much smoother and stabiled then with FF OFF and working trim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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