POST-RELEASE DEVELOPMENT UPDATE #1

[cichlidfan]

Will I be able to get some sort of college degree for having spent a semester reading that manual?:music_whistling:

 

Yes, but the final exam is in Russian. ;)

[Sceptre]

Thank you LN, very nice Russian cockpit, and amazing plane ))))

[RUS38]

BIG Thank You Cobra for this and support,

 

it will be very good trening too before this:

 

 

;D heheheh.

 

Why some of your are so sure they will be making "this" as a next module. There will be no SU-22M4! What a waste time to even think about developing that ugly f*%er! I like Mig-21 but won't be getting СУ-22 even if someone released it. I see no point. Mig-29 is the bird! But would also be happy with Mig-25!

本帖最后于2014年9月19日，由RUS38编辑

[chromium]

Thanks for the quick update :).

[NeilWillis]

Why some of your are so sure they will be making "this" as a next module. There will be no SU-22M4! What a waste time to even think about developing that ugly f*%er! I like Mig-21 but won't be getting СУ-22 even if someone released it. I see no point. Mig-29 is the bird! But would also be happy with Mig-25!

 

Does anyone else get the impression he doesn't like the Su-22?

 

:cry:

 

However, despite the negative, here's a positive...

 

Thanks for the update. I wonder if this approach is being watched by others? :music_whistling:

 

:thumbup::joystick::pilotfly:

[Teapot]

Amazing aircraft! Thank you .. and what a way to ensure you have a legion of fans speculating on what the next module will be.

本帖最后于2014年9月19日，由Teapot编辑

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

This be pretty baller. Expect a video review from me and my (largely worthless) recommendation.

 

You've actually ruined DCS for me, at least in the near future; I feel dirty touching anything else. It's the same delight as the Huey; simple to grasp, but requires practice to master. This really does raise the bar.

[garengarch]

The only complaint I have is that it makes every other cockpit look ugly and toy-like :p

Great job guys, please tell us you are happy with the sales thus far?

[jackmckay]

http://i2.wp.com/cleantechnica.com/files/2014/01/40b96f717103244d7d9dea023de22820619058efade0a529f2938430963ed6c7.jpg

[AndyHill]

Wow if 60k removed polygons constitutes about 20% of the total, that means the total is somewhere around 300k, which to me sounds like a frightening number of triangles for any computer to calculate. How does this compare to other DCS planes, what kind of numbers are we talking about with for example A-10C or Huey?

[Buzzles]

Wow if 60k removed polygons constitutes about 20% of the total, that means the total is somewhere around 300k, which to me sounds like a frightening number of triangles for any computer to calculate. How does this compare to other DCS planes, what kind of numbers are we talking about with for example A-10C or Huey?

 

300k polys in general isn't a humongous amount in this day and age, however, it's not the only thing going on affecting performance. Texturing and then lighting also play their part, sometimes even moreso.

[The_Pharoah]

I experienced my first slow down last night - did a rocket strafing run on some tanks. Once I fired and my rockets started to impact, my fps dropped from something like 30 to about 2. I then crashed headlong into the armoured vehicles I was strafing (there were others strafing other nearby vehicles so the amount of detail was quite high).

 

What sort of timeline are we looking at in terms of lowering the LOD in the cockpit? 1 week, 1 month?

[-Rudel-]

Wow if 60k removed polygons constitutes about 20% of the total, that means the total is somewhere around 300k, which to me sounds like a frightening number of triangles for any computer to calculate. How does this compare to other DCS planes, what kind of numbers are we talking about with for example A-10C or Huey?

 

266,667 triangles. Quite honestly, after all the tests, it appears it's the amount of materials (not textures) I am using on the external model.

 

A cockpit averages in the 250K range, so my external really has no affect if you switch to external view. However, the external model is completely enabled when inside the cockpit. So now it's up to nearly 500K triangles.

 

Right now, I've added proper visibility arguments on parts that can't be seen within the cockpit. Along with that, I've been busy creating proper a Lod0 and 1, while Cobra works on Lod2, 3 and 4. The release versions were just temporary for ED testers.

 

I can't compare to ED's A-10C anymore. Last time I saw 202K-ish triangles on their model, back in v1.2.7. Now it's down to 165K

 

Anyways, if you missed my other post, here is what I'm doing. I think the internal pit will be done similar. Cobra will have to say.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2186232&postcount=231

[chanurr]

266,667 triangles. Quite honestly, after all the tests, it appears it's the amount of materials (not textures) I am using on the external model.

 

A cockpit averages in the 250K range, so my external really has no affect if you switch to external view. However, the external model is completely enabled when inside the cockpit. So now it's up to nearly 500K triangles.

 

Right now, I've added proper visibility arguments on parts that can't be seen within the cockpit. Along with that, I've been busy creating proper a Lod0 and 1, while Cobra works on Lod2, 3 and 4. The release versions were just temporary for ED testers.

 

I can't compare to ED's A-10C anymore. Last time I saw 202K-ish triangles on their model, back in v1.2.7. Now it's down to 165K

 

Anyways, if you missed my other post, here is what I'm doing. I think the internal pit will be done similar. Cobra will have to say.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2186232&postcount=231

 

Thx for the update info -Rudel-...:thumbup:

[Mainstay]

Hi can we expect the liveries this week?

[Aginor]

Sounds good, thanks for keeping us informed! :)

[VBS_Nero]

Thanks Cobra

[Cobra847]

Hi can we expect the liveries this week?

 

Yep!

[scaflight]

Good Golly did this aircraft put the fright in me! 700 meters from the threshold on a silky smooth approach, I make out the shape of a Mig-21 holding short. As the distance falls, I suddenly have 0 FPS between the ~300m and -50 meter mark - and some would call this a relatively critical part of the approach. :D By the time I get frames again I've somehow not lost my wheels on the hardest touchdown ever.

Great job though, can't be overstated just how well made this product is.

[statrekmike]

I was just wondering how the team plans to release these fixes? Will this be in conjunction with a official ED patch release (as I understand that there are problems that they are also working on fixing for DCS world as a whole) or will it be a patch released by Leatherneck directly?

 

To be honest, I am hoping on the latter, the FPS issue and the pilot oxygen bug have a pretty significant effect on the overall product and while I totally understand that stuff like this happens in software development, I will admit that I would rather Leatherneck be able to release fixes at their own pace as opposed to on ED's update schedule.

 

Is it even possible to release fixes outside of ED's update system?

[Corrigan]

I image there'll be a patch through ED's updater (obviously), but containing only MiG stuff. I also imagine it coming this week.

[statrekmike]

I image there'll be a patch through ED's updater (obviously), but containing only MiG stuff. I also imagine it coming this week.

 

Hope this ends up being the case, the MiG is a fantastic module, probably the best one (in my opinion) so it will be good to be able to fly it to it's fullest.

 

Out of curiosity, are you a tester for the MiG team? I get the impression that you are from your posts.

[Justin Case]

Out of curiosity, are you a tester for the MiG team? I get the impression that you are from your posts.

 

Naah, he's just testing Vipers' nerves ;)

 

Edit: the whole LN team!

本帖最后于2014年9月22日，由Justin Case编辑

[Corrigan]

Hey now. I irritate many more people than that.

[VTJS17_Fire]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2186232&postcount=231

 

Will the superior quality decrease with these cuts?