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I don't even know how he can say that straight faced. I don't know why he use wing loading as some kind of accurate comparison either, but even then he fails

 

F-35 > 63.3 lb/ft^2

 

F-16 > 63

 

That's empty, and given that the F-35 is heavier, 1 pound of extra load will hurt it less than the F-16.

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This video has been posted everywhere,

 

A. Sprey did not design the F-16 nor the A-10.

B. A 50's MIG-21 would have been shot down before it even detected the F-35.

 

as for not turning and weight.

 

I've seen the F-35B Fly in person, it can turn fine. The lift fan prolly weighs less than the fuel cells that were removed to make room for the lift fan.

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Yes but the cells are full of fuel that will be useful for the entire flight instead that lift fan becomes a useless weight one the plane is not hovering

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Yes but the cells are full of fuel that will be useful for the entire flight instead that lift fan becomes a useless weight one the plane is not hovering

 

F-35B's will be deployed from Forward Operating Bases or from a Marine American-Class Amphibious Assault Ship/Carrier (or British Carrier). They wont need to fly as far as F-16s or F-22s

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There are a dozen or more threads with different versions of the video. This has been going on for years now.

To whom it may concern,

I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that.

Thank you for you patience.

 

 

Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..

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I think every aviation or sim or even remotely general military related forum have at least 3 samples of this same thread...

 

 

Edit : I don't mean to be condescending, but... this thing really gets old... :)

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This video has been posted everywhere,

 

A. Sprey did not design the F-16 nor the A-10.

B. A 50's MIG-21 would have been shot down before it even detected the F-35.

Not only that, AFAIK his vision of F-16 was a simple aircraft without any radar, only able to carry short range IR missiles. The final version was not to his liking.

And he was also againts the F-15 because, in his opinion, the aircraft just had too many 'gadgets'...

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Not only that, AFAIK his vision of F-16 was a simple aircraft without any radar, only able to carry short range IR missiles. The final version was not to his liking.

And he was also againts the F-15 because, in his opinion, the aircraft just had too many 'gadgets'...

 

Not his vision on the F-16, Col Boyd's vision. According to the Book Boyd

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If You cant pick him on radar your last resort is trying to spot him by eye. In Mig21 you cant do either. :)

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Hmmm, even close in, the cockpit flat panel displays of the F-35 look so super user friendly and super automated that a F-35 pilot could probably get well inside the OODA loop of his or her Mig-21 pilot adversary and kill the Mig driver ten times over, before the Mig driver could respond in any useful fashion.

 

Just look how user friendly the F-35B seems in this video, below! I bet F-35 pilots utterly love their ride. The cockpit puts a smile on my face.

 


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Hmmm, even close in, the cockpit flat panel displays of the F-35 look so super user friendly and super automated that a F-35 pilot could probably get well inside the OODA loop of his or her Mig-21 pilot adversary and kill the Mig driver ten times over, before the Mig driver could respond in any useful fashion.

 

he doesnt have to do more than look at the mig, wait for lock and fire.

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I don't even know how he can say that straight faced. I don't know why he use wing loading as some kind of accurate comparison either, but even then he fails

 

F-35 > 63.3 lb/ft^2

 

F-16 > 63

 

That's empty, and given that the F-35 is heavier, 1 pound of extra load will hurt it less than the F-16.

 

What's your source ?

 

Because wikipedia thinks he's right about wing loading.

 

F105 D Wing loading: 93 lb/ft² (452 kg/m²)

F 35 A Wing loading: 107.7 lb/ft² (526 kg/m²; 745 kg/m² max loaded)

F 104 G Wing loading: 105 lb/ft² (514 kg/m²)Wing loading: 105 lb/ft² (514 kg/m²)

F 16 C Block 50 Wing loading: 88.3 lb/ft² (431 kg/m²)

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