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Hi Maverick and Flanker, I was making some calculations in the mission, and is visble that red side have advantage, first thing is they are at only 320 km from bullseye and about 272km from sochi, in the blue side from vaziani to bullseye they have 422km! and 352km to sukhumi, are 7 minutes of flight and fuel burn of difference, I think to make things fair you should take the beslan airfield as blue fighters airfield, or give 5 minutes of flight to the blue side, before the red side takeof. In the last JW 2 we were blue against 51st, when we arrived to sukhumi they were already over our airfield!.

 

At the same time, I would like to know what side will take all the teams from the first moment they are defined, in order to make all estrategy based on the operations theater of the selected side.

 

Regards,

 

RuSh


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Hi Maverick and Flanker, I was making some calculations in the mission, and is visble that red side have advantage, first thing is they are at only 320 km from bullseye and about 272km from sochi, in the blue side from vaziani to bullseye they have 422km! and 352km to sukhumi, are 7 minutes of flight and fuel burn of difference, I think to make things fair you should take the beslan airfield as blue fighters airfield, or give 5 minutes of flight to the blue side, before the red side takeof. In the last JW 2 we were blue against 51st, when we arrived to sukhumi they were already over our airfield!.

 

At the same time, I would like to know what side will take all the teams from the first moment they are defined, in order to make all estrategy based on the operations theater of the selected side.

 

Regards,

 

RuSh

I agree there is a difference in distances but it is hard to make equal distances with such a map.

Timing is part of the planning, when the 51st flew against you they took off 3 minutes ahead of you and got 6 aircraft airborne in 2 mins compared to you having 6 aircraft airborne in 5 minutes, that is 6 minutes behind. If your timing had been as good, by the time they reached Gudauta you would have been over Sukhumi.

 

Beslan does have equal ranges but would probably need some shifting around of the AWACS and tanker because of the close proximity to Beslan for such an attack. This would mean they have to operate over sea which could be a problem with SAM cover.

 

I think the solution would probably be a timed delay in similar fashion to the Strikers.

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Hi Maverick and Flanker, I was making some calculations in the mission, and is visble that red side have advantage, first thing is they are at only 320 km from bullseye and about 272km from sochi, in the blue side from vaziani to bullseye they have 422km! and 352km to sukhumi, are 7 minutes of flight and fuel burn of difference, I think to make things fair you should take the beslan airfield as blue fighters airfield, or give 5 minutes of flight to the blue side, before the red side takeof. In the last JW 2 we were blue against 51st, when we arrived to sukhumi they were already over our airfield!.

 

At the same time, I would like to know what side will take all the teams from the first moment they are defined, in order to make all estrategy based on the operations theater of the selected side.

 

Regards,

 

RuSh

 

Hi Rush,

 

Thanks for your feedback.

 

It is tricky to come up with similar distances without compromising other aspects of the mission map. Beslan would be a good choice if it was lined up with the coast line. AWACS and tankers, which are very high value targets fly across the coastline, selecting Beslan would mean moving blue AWACS and tanker over the mountains and away from the seashore. That would significantly unbalance the mission from a tactical perspective.

 

I went onto the map again to see Time On Station for everybody. I'd say keeping red fighters on the ground for 5 extra minutes would solve this issue.

 

JW3 coalition roster and order of battle coming up soon.

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Coalition EDP =71st=, ECV56 Condor and EV57 pilots (MODIFIED):

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= AlemaN

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Honos

Nationality: Spain

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: =71st= Truco

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-33

 

Callsign: <CLE> Pajaron IV

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =ECV56= Skyhell

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Jackal

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Rush

Nationality: Cuba-Mexico

Aircraft: MIG-29S

 

Callsign: =EV57= Iberian

Nationality: Cuba-USA

Aircraft: MIG-29S

 

Callsign: =EV57= Tunther

Nationality: Cuba-USA

Aircraft: MIG-29S

 

Callsign: =EV57= Ninja

Nationality: Colombia

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: =EV57= Hogan77

Nationality: Colombia

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= FoxOne

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-25T

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Cefalea

Nationality: Mexico

Aircraft:SU-25T

 

Reserve:

 

Callsign: <CLE> =CDA= Unisold

Nationality: Spain

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: =EV57= Maniac

Nationality: Republica Dominicana

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: =EV57= Madman

Nationality: Colombia

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Flecha

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =ECV56= Krypto

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Manu

Nationality: Spain

Aircraft: SU-27


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I have my wingman at home this weekend - i'll check if he is interrested.

 

Are the tracks available after the game ? That would be really interresting for learning.

 

Yes, tracks will be available to public, ACMIs as well. Kindly let us know by posting your application once you know you can do it.

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I'd like to clarify the principle according to which both teams will be composed. Say, UVAF has 8 pilots. As far as I understand we'll be joining forces with 5 other pilots, possibly those who are not members of any squad? Or maybe we'll join forces with other squad. But who will deside on this?

This principle may have an impact on performance of each team - strengthening the ones and weaking the others.

 

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By the way UVAF owns DCS server which may be used either for event or for trainings.

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I'd like to clarify the principle according to which both teams will be composed. Say, UVAF has 8 pilots. As far as I understand we'll be joining forces with 5 other pilots, possibly those who are not members of any squad? Or maybe we'll join forces with other squad. But who will deside on this?

This principle may have an impact on performance of each team - strengthening the ones and weaking the others.

 

p.s.

By the way UVAF owns DCS server which may be used either for event or for trainings.

Thx!

 

Yes Max, as the name suggests, "Joint Warrior" is about joining forces with other pilots and go TvT.

 

Roster-wise, you can PM me your suggestions about who you'd like to fly with and I will try to accommodate as much as possible. Will post preliminary rosters tonight.

 

Does that mean that an ejected, surviving pilot will be able to come back ?

 

KIA or MIA are the same at this point, they both mean 'game over' :)

As stability improves, we are planning to include a few Huey S&R slots that would give a second go to rescued pilots.

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Dear pilots, thank you all for signing up. We have managed to get a full roster over a few days only. This is boosting our motivation to continuously enhance the quality of our events. We hope you will enjoy flying in JW3!

 

As much as we wanted to host large numbers and accommodate everybody, we are forced to stick to a limit to 13 pilots per team as initially announced. This is to ensure good game stability. We are slowly increasing the numbers and we do hope to provide more and more slots down the road.

 

Sign ups have been managed on first come first served basis.

Please see team roster and more info about those who didn't make it into the top 13 here:

http://sa-sim.com/jw3-up-there-with-the-best-of-the-best/

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Thanks Flanker, when the sides will be selected? some kind of lottery?

 

Regards,

 

RuSh

 

You guys are going against the blue team so I guess they will want to stay blue in game as well. You would then take red side and get that 5mn delay to offset those extra miles.

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Quick heads up: 238th.lbae did not confirm their participation (4 slots), therefore a few reserve pilots have moved into the main roster.

 

 

Roster changelog as below:

 

 

  • Papaye, =36=Gaanalma, =36=Raf, =36=Bountyhunter moved from reserve into blue coalition
  • Ramrod89 moved from orange reserve to blue reserve.

 

 

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Hi Flankenator, I edited our roster, changed some official pilots, reserve and aircrafts.

 

Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

Thanks!

 

RuSh

 

Coalition EDP =71st=, ECV56 Condor and EV57 pilots (MODIFIED):

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= AlemaN

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Honos

Nationality: Spain

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: =71st= Truco

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-33

 

Callsign: <CLE> Pajaron IV

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =ECV56= Skyhell

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Jackal

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Rush

Nationality: Cuba-Mexico

Aircraft: MIG-29S

 

Callsign: =EV57= Iberian

Nationality: Cuba-USA

Aircraft: MIG-29S

 

Callsign: =EV57= Tunther

Nationality: Cuba-USA

Aircraft: MIG-29S

 

Callsign: =EV57= Ninja

Nationality: Colombia

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: =EV57= Hogan77

Nationality: Colombia

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= FoxOne

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-25T

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Cefalea

Nationality: Mexico

Aircraft:SU-25T

 

Reserve:

 

Callsign: <CLE> =CDA= Unisold

Nationality: Spain

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: =EV57= Maniac

Nationality: Republica Dominicana

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: =EV57= Madman

Nationality: Colombia

Aircraft: F-15C

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Flecha

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =ECV56= Krypto

Nationality: Argentina

Aircraft: SU-27

 

Callsign: <CLE> =71st= Manu

Nationality: Spain

Aircraft: SU-27


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Many problems for 238th pilots (time, hardware, work...) so we cant participate in this event now. As I said, PM-ed Flankerator, we will be ready next time.

Good luck to all and have fun!

 

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