Question about C-17 and flares

Rangi · December 4, 2014

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=420_1417415481

In the above video (sorry I don't know how to embed) the C-17s release 2 types of flares, bright white ones and glowing dull red. Does anyone know what the dull red ones are or is that just the pyrotechnics for pumping out the chaff??

strikeeagle · December 4, 2014

Looks like the same flares to me. They look to glow red as it's being punched off before it ignites. I think you're also seeing flares from another jet behind it. Chaff doesn't look that way when being punched.

RIPTIDE · December 4, 2014

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=420_1417415481

In the above video (sorry I don't know how to embed) the C-17s release 2 types of flares, bright white ones and glowing dull red. Does anyone know what the dull red ones are or is that just the pyrotechnics for pumping out the chaff??

I'm going to guess that the two types of flares are made for 2 different type of IR threats which utilize different parts of the IR/Visible spectrum.

HungaroJET · December 4, 2014

I'm going to guess that the two types of flares are made for 2 different type of IR threats which utilize different parts of the IR/Visible spectrum.

There are not two types of flares. The redish, darker but sparkling things are chaffs (00:48, 00:57, 01:06, 01:29, 01:45, 01:56)

First they are pumping out flares and after chaffs.

Mostly visible at 01:56 We can see the exploding charges creating whirling foil clouds.

Great video :thumbup:

Edited December 4, 2014 by HungaroJET

RIPTIDE · December 4, 2014

There are not two types of flares. The redish, darker but sparkling things are chaffs (00:48, 00:57, 01:06, 01:29, 01:45, 01:56)
First they are pumping out flares and after chaffs.
Mostly visible at 01:56 We can see the exploding charges creating whirling foil clouds.
Great video :thumbup:

Ahh THanks!! Yes it is a great video.

DCS: C-17? Cockpit looks nice. I could see myself flying that once or twice. Would bring in a ton of the M$ Flight crowd too into DCS aswell.

xxJohnxx · December 4, 2014

Would bring in a ton of the M$ Flight crowd too into DCS aswell.

Not on the small map we have right now. Even on the longest distances between to airports available currently, you will hardly reach cruise altitude with that bird before you have to descent again.

The M$ Flight crowd that flies such type of aircraft probably would not be very interested into that.

XtraChrisP · December 4, 2014

Looks like covert flares to me. Check out this page:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/mju-50.htm

Covert flares combine the IR decoy features of a standard flare without announcing your presence visually to everyone within a 300 mile radius.

RIPTIDE · December 4, 2014

Not on the small map we have right now. Even on the longest distances between to airports available currently, you will hardly reach cruise altitude with that bird before you have to descent again.
The M$ Flight crowd that flies such type of aircraft probably would not be very interested into that.

The maps should be released as a patchwork on a global map. Nevada, BlackSea/Georgia and the Gulf all appearing on one map with zero detail in between, until other maps patch into it. Good plan, No? :P

Eddie · December 4, 2014

There are not two types of flares. The redish, darker but sparkling things are chaffs (00:48, 00:57, 01:06, 01:29, 01:45, 01:56)
First they are pumping out flares and after chaffs.
Mostly visible at 01:56 We can see the exploding charges creating whirling foil clouds.
Great video :thumbup:

No.

Looks like covert flares to me. Check out this page:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/mju-50.htm

Covert flares combine the IR decoy features of a standard flare without announcing your presence visually to everyone within a 300 mile radius.

Yep. MJU-50/B.

Edited December 4, 2014 by Eddie