JG13 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Thank You for all your hard work:thumbup: You can hear the trim wheel spinning but it seems to have a big deadzone in the middle because after a few rotations it will begin to move. you can move the trim a little bit and you can see trim wheel moving but you need to pull it back to neutral position to get it to stop, if you want to go the other way you need to turn the wheel a few times then it will start to go the other way. you can only make the wheel move or stop like a lever. using Saitek trim wheel as the flap wheel does not work either acts in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaltysZ Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Flaps and trim axis are not absolute, but directional. This means, if you have joystick axis mapped to flaps or trim, then: 1) moving joystick axis closer to center position would slowdown flaps or trim wheel movement 2) moving joystick axis away from center position would speed up flaps or trim movement. Why we don't have absolute axis for trim and flaps? It is really cumbersome the way it is, if you want precision or exploit muscle memory. Wir sehen uns in Walhalla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reksi-Erkki Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Why we don't have absolute axis for trim and flaps? It is really cumbersome the way it is, if you want precision or exploit muscle memory. Exactly. A multiturn pot for the trim wheel and flaps would be excellent! In the Mustang, I have the flaps mapped to a lever on my Saitek throttle quadrant, and trims onto three separate pots on a DIY controller - won't get much more realistic than that. The two remaining levers on the Saitek are used to adjust the cold and hot air intakes. I'd really like to see this changed for the Bf109 before it goes out of beta. Dear Shilka. I hate you so very very much. Love, Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klem Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2516177&postcount=150 I'm bouncing this back to life as it's arisen in another thread where I thought it was a problem with of "1.5". It really needs to be changed. klem 56 RAF 'Firebirds' ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F mobo, i7 8086A @ 5.0 GHz with Corsair H115i watercooling, Gigabyte 2080Ti GAMING OC 11Gb GPU , 32Gb DDR4 RAM, 500Gb and 256Gb SSD SATA III 6Gb/s + 2TB , Pimax 8k Plus VR, TM Warthog Throttle, TM F18 Grip on Virpil WarBRD base, Windows 10 Home 64bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supongo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Flaps Control Bug After more than a year of development,and many updates, the new DCS:Bf-109K4 ver 1.5 BETA remains with the same bug in the flaps control than when the game was released. [YOUTUBE]ttps://youtu.be/eDafMEcWVc8[/YOUTUBE] We wait for v2? Regards Supongo Edited October 14, 2015 by Supongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabuzard Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Here's his video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supongo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Here's his video: Thanks :) Supongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Flaps and trim axis are not absolute, but directional. Mmmm, find a "practical" use for this axis "ON/OFF" feature: create "flaps toe switch" for Bf 109. Instead the boring press a button and wait ~15 seconds (?) until flaps drop, I press a modifier and briefly move rudder slight for left (sensitivity adjusted in curves), this make flaps wheel turn until flaps reach the end of course, meanwhile I can use rudder for... rudder. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Not sure if this is a bug or some wicked developer's idea, but the current implementation of the trim axis is useless with the Saitek Trim Wheel. And it's inconsistent with the P-51D, where the trim axis works mostly fine (except for a weird delay). Edited November 3, 2015 by some1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eponsky_bot Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Why we don't have absolute axis for trim and flaps? It is really cumbersome the way it is, if you want precision or exploit muscle memory. This is done on purpose, to avoid cheating (which allows to quickly clean up and flaps) Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 /i9-12900KF /64 Gb- G.SKILL Trident DDR4 4000 МГц / Palit GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GameRock 8GB /Corsair HX1200 1200W DCS A-10C Обучающий урок "Концепция HOTAS" (RU) DCS P-51D Руководство пилота Обучающие миссии для Ми-8 (Радиооборудование) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongodriver Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 This is done on purpose, to avoid cheating (which allows to quickly clean up and flaps) it doesn't avoid it at all though, you can still quickly clean up the flaps and you can still assign the flaps to buttons on the joystick. All it does is prevent people from using the wheels in a more realistic way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegfried Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Bongo is right, I can asign an axis of my Saitek quadrant trhottle and it is like automatic system. I want a axis for control more realistic. There are other axis too in the cockpit with wrong axis too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 This is done on purpose, to avoid cheating (which allows to quickly clean up and flaps) And why it's possible to do that on P-51 then? Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongodriver Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 At least it would be nice to have a realistic trim/flap axis for offline flying, I still don't see how this apparent cheat works, instant trim and flaps would cause more problems than benefits in real life. is there any evidence that people really can cheat like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 This issue is more than a year old, any chance it will be fixed? Right now it is not possible to use realistic trim hardware, like the Saitek trim wheel. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Racoon Posted February 17, 2016 ED Team Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hi some1 Thanks for resurrect this thread ) We'll fix this ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 You're welcome :) Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIIJG52_Otto_ Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 New update beta 1.5.3.50355.19 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2681227&postcount=14 ... DCS Bf 109-K4 Implemented cockpit camera movement options regarding gunsight retaining movement Corrected Flight manual Reduced flaps control wheel to 8 turns total. ... Flaps bug fixed, thank you E.D. :thumbup: http://www.jagdgeschwader52.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 True Otto... converging towards Perfection :-) It's unique in many aspects, even if from time to time it needs some tuning, and they give us that tuning :-) Really looking forward for: 1) The EDGE conversion of the Caucasus Map; 2) The new Weather features to come with EDGE; 3) The Spitfire, P47, ... more rotary wing.... [...] N) The Normandy Map; [...] [N+k] a flyable ww2 glider to go with Normandy :-) [...] Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD-MM Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Lol flying with a K-8 through Normandy map, but this not a bad idear... Dont know how good the thermal environment is currently in DCS :) Once you have tasted Flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your Eyes turned Skyward. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 9./JG27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugen Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Lol flying with a K-8 through Normandy map, but this not a bad idear... Dont know how good the thermal environment is currently in DCS :) K-8 is from 1957, i think jcomm has something like this in mind ... greez mugen GIGABYTE Z690 Aorus Elite | i5-12600K | 32 GB DDR4 | 2x 980 NVMe | RTX 4090 | OR CV1 | Pimax 8K | PC360 | 34UM95 | 38GN950 | TIR5 + Track Clip Pro | T-50CM2 | TM Warthog + 27,5 cm extension | MFG Crosswind | Win10Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Exactlly one of those mugen!!! Thx! :thumbup: Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD-MM Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 German countermessure :) Once you have tasted Flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your Eyes turned Skyward. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 9./JG27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Racoon Posted February 19, 2016 ED Team Share Posted February 19, 2016 Could anyone please check if Saitek trim wheel works correct now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 On ordinary axis still the same, the axis are a on/off switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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