lunaticfringe Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'm good with the three resistors, although does that permit it to take three additional switches? I've got an actual F-15's Auto Acquisition switch that I'll be wanting to wire in accounting for two, and intend on dual-staging the trigger for number three. I'm comfortable with more wires to the grip if this isn't doable, but asking since you mention it. And apologies for the late response- completely forgot about this conversation until I looked at the grip on my workbench earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'm good with the three resistors, although does that permit it to take three additional switches? I've got an actual F-15's Auto Acquisition switch that I'll be wanting to wire in accounting for two, and intend on dual-staging the trigger for number three. I'm comfortable with more wires to the grip if this isn't doable, but asking since you mention it. And apologies for the late response- completely forgot about this conversation until I looked at the grip on my workbench earlier today. Technically it is doable, there is possibility to add 3 more switches, but it would be very difficult. Some wires should be soldered directly on 4021 chips and they are so tiny. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) I started this thread 2 years ago with idea to convert Suncom grip to USB, I finished one finally. 5pin DIN connector is not visible but I did same thing like in THIS POST, I just used different headers. Everything works, unfortunately I don't have two hat knobs, they were destroyed in previous modding attempt. I think I'll have to print them. With this new PCB it was very easy mod. Edited July 13, 2017 by debolestis 1 - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haukka81 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If you print , please dont make poles like stock , stock feel is bit soft. Maybe somekind bumbs where microswitchs are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 If you print , please dont make poles like stock , stock feel is bit soft. Maybe somekind bumbs where microswitchs are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You mean that 4way switches feel light? I used 6mm tact switches that are 7mm tall, like original. Maybe I could use 5mm and see how that works. That will give a longer throw. Maybe I have a few around somewhere. I need to test it. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haukka81 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 You mean that 4way switches feel light? I used 6mm tact switches that are 7mm tall, like original. Maybe I could use 5mm and see how that works. That will give a longer throw. Maybe I have a few around somewhere. I need to test it. It may be suncom hat system, i think that tact swicthes are good , just suncom hat pole is bad or spring too heavy , need to make test. Soon as i have time :book: Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Suncom HAT use a big spring in their pole and the travel to press the micro-swtich is bigger that in other joysticks HAT. Is more like in this L-39 trim HAT (first seconds): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 BTW, I have 5 more PCBs I'll sell them for 15$ + shipping, soldered with all chips and switches and 3 headers (connectors). If I sell them all I'll order a new batch. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Count me in for one Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 Count me in for one Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk No problem, i'll let you know when it is finished. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haukka81 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Suncom HAT use a big spring in their pole and the travel to press the micro-swtich is bigger that in other joysticks HAT. Is more like in this L-39 trim HAT (first seconds): Travel is possible to mod shorter (imho) , shorter spring and different pole from hat to micro switches. :book: Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusterBust Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Debolestis Ill take the 5th board if no one scoops it up as i have a second stick (with the big gross red button), want it as a back up. Quick question...where can i get the hall sensor board like the one i would attached to your Cougar stick gimbal? Im getting lost in web pages and not really getting anywhere i could order a set or two. Thanks WITH ENOUGH THRUST, LIFT IS IRRELEVANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) You need assembly the TLE5010/11 magnet resistance PCB. :) Or buy read to use from China: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/TLE5010-digital-mode-magnetoresistive-angle-sensor/32634095245.html?%20Spm=2114.13010608.0.0.%20Eqr0Mr FYI - Some units from Aliexpress need re-selder components, QC fail. :) EDIT - I forget that TLE5010/11 work in digital mode, so is not compatible with Cougar controller, that support only analog input. Edited March 8, 2017 by Sokol1_br Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusterBust Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Thanks much Sokol1 Have you used the ones from AliExp? Any recommendations for a magnet? Thanks Update- im trying to find it on the english AliExp site but im having no luck. Edited March 7, 2017 by BusterBust WITH ENOUGH THRUST, LIFT IS IRRELEVANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 No, but a forum colleague use - and have problem with bad solders. The ideal magnet is circular or ring diametrical magnetized. Some guys that bough from Aliexpress receive magnets together with boards, but others not. http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4331024/re-mmjoy-mmjoy2-build-your-own-usb-controller#Post4331024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 I now use GVL224 sensors. He sold me two sensors and two magnets for 19$, shipping included. He is here on forum just send him a message. I just uploaded new version of gimbal yesterday. I corrected a few things. I'll write a post later today. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Have you used the ones from AliExp? Any recommendations for a magnet? BusterBust, I am forgetting a detail, this TLE5010/11 sensor in Aliexpress work in digital mode (5 wires) and so is not suitable for Cougar circuit, that work only with analog sensors (3 wires). TLE5010/11 is for use with MMjoy2. Like Debolestis post above GVL224 is the source for "MagRez" KMZ41 analog sensors PCB: http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=683 Or if you want assembly PCB, use this circuit. http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=572 Edited March 7, 2017 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner1024 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 does anyone have a spare sfs throttle POT, or a link to something compatable? one of my pots has never worked, and i need a spare that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I ordered the TLE sensors from AliEx. So far I have tested 3 out of 6, and they work great! All came with magnets, but so far I have only used the old magnets already in the VKB pincer gimbal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 does anyone have a spare sfs throttle POT, or a link to something compatable? one of my pots has never worked, and i need a spare that works I know that RS F.U.S.B.A conversion for SFS came with new pot's, what means that this pot's still in production. Don't know what brand and specs of this pots. Suncom F-15 stick seems use a proprietary and discontinued model. If you want pot for replace in SFS working in original form (gameport), you need 100k B type pot. Here their dimmensions - what is a critical factor to find a similar for replacement: http://www.gavca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=24094 If this SFS is converted for USB get a 10K B type pot. The sensor TLE5010 showed by Goblin only work in digital controllers, for analog controllers you can use GVL224 MagRez that is similar to this, see me post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Please let me know if you have any left I want one debolestis. I have been dying to convert my F-15 Talon to use on my Warthog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 I have 3 PCBs left, send me a PM with your address. - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 PM sent thanks brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Hey Man I recieved the board for the Suncom but IM curious I need to buy the 2 button controls for the thumb and pinky triggers can you send me a link, thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debolestis Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 You mean switches? There should be 2 switches in the grip. If you don't have them you can buy them here: http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/12x12mm-Momentary-Tactile-Push-Button-Switch-PCB-Mounted-SPST-/251779585322?nav=SEARCH&varId=550703579703 - Debolestis' Shapeways store - Debolestis' Facebook page - Suncom SFS and Talon restoration and mods - Cougar replacement gimbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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