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[NO BUG / REALISTIC] Mig21Bis 1.2.15 ground handling

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I tried the new ground handling in simulation mode. I don't know if it is just beta or is affected by the bug of rear wheels half sink into the ground and brakes close to ineffectiveness (could be) but currently the new ground handling is very poor.

 

I can say that after testing the Mig-15Bis which has the same system and that plane is realy easy handle on the ground by braking and pushing pedals.

 

What is the experience regarding this of others?

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I tried the new ground handling in simulation mode. I don't know if it is just beta or is affected by the bug of rear wheels half sink into the ground and brakes close to ineffectiveness (could be) but currently the new ground handling is very poor.

 

I can say that after testing the Mig-15Bis which has the same system and that plane is realy easy handle on the ground by braking and pushing pedals.

 

What is the experience regarding this of others?

I bet, this is the same issue as this:

See also here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=139589

 

and @LNS, see especially posing #9 in that thread.

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Ground handling of the MiG got a little tricky now, but didn´t face any walls so far it for me it seems right.

 

Wheels seem to sink a little, but since they are made for soft grounds...

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Wheels seem to sink a little, but since they are made for soft grounds...

A little? it looks like a flat tire ! compeered to this...

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Ground handling of the MiG got a little tricky now, but didn´t face any walls so far it for me it seems right.

 

Wheels seem to sink a little, but since they are made for soft grounds...

 

try the 15Bis on the ground. is just like is a A-10C with NWS on compare to the struggle you have to fight with 21bis now. I was one of the supporters of "full real" ground steering and I still am but I think LNS should have done it full real from the start not in steps and now combined with rear wheels bug to be close to impractical. For me the 21 is grounded anyway till a fix is out.

 

This is how it looks to me the rear wheels. Definitely now just a little sink... and the nose wheel is almost airborne if not a bit raised.

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Take-off runs are also noticeably more bumpy. Maybe not as "offroad-bumpy" as on initial release, but more bumpy than in 1.2.14. I wonder if it's intended, or another side effect of landing gear adjustments.

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Any news on when this and other problems (most of them introduced with 12.15) of Mig21 will be fixed? My 21 is still grounded... granted I have a blast with 15Bis but still... I'd like the 21 also fixed and not "forgotten" somewhere in 21 threads of "what's next?". :D

 

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hm... is it this?

 

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lets see...

 

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nope...

 

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somehow after this update my DCS World game exploded after giving me the first BSOD ever...

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2341134#post2341134

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I still think the ground handling is too easy personally! It's strange others are struggling with it. Stupid question but you guys having trouble arent engaging the nosewheel brake to taxi are you?

 

I much prefer the Mig15's implementation of the system. All steering on the brakes until up to reasonable speeds. And it IS a lighter plane so more responsive.

 

I do however agree with fixing the sunken tyres...

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The problem is not that is hard but that it is unstable...the plane wobbles like is very light and you end up over controlling it.

 

It seems that it is aggravated by the wheel sink bug at least so lets wait for a fix. Sadly today's fix didn't do anything to this it appears.

 

I still rebuild my install after the BSOD... I'll check again after.

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In the real thing, ground steering becomes slightly noticeable using the rudder at around 30kph. At 50 and beyond it starts rapidly getting better.

The sunken tires issue was our fault in accidentally shipping the wrong entry.lua.

 

@Zaelu; the updater log is referring to the fact that the sim needs to be repaired after updating the sim. The issue was not with our activation, it was with the updater.

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How can it be fixed till the patch is out? ...if possible.

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I bet, this is the same issue as this:

 

 

:thumbup:

 

Thanks Flagrum and Derbysieger! I tried a wrong thing when I've rea Flagrum's instructions first.I thought it was suspension.lua wrong and I commented it out and activated the line with HS and addd after HS a ".lua" suffix :doh:

 

I attached to this mod a quick mod fix that can be activated with JSGME. Just extract the folder within the archive in _MODS and activate via JSGME.

 

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FIX - Wheels Sunk in 1.2.15 MiG-21Bis 07.Feb.2015.zip

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