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It is obvious that whatever LN comes up with as "tomcat" it will be acepted a lot easier than the mig as practically nobody knows what a real tomcat is.

 

How many with a tomcat? 712 units all together which maxes around 30 000 people max.

 

30 000 people, "practically nobody". Yup.

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With the mig I bought:

"Years in the making, our advanced flight modelling is the foundation upon which the DCS: MiG-21 is built. Comprised of over 100 simulation components and designed by an active duty MiG-21 pilot , it ensure the most authentic MiG-21 experience ever created."

It seems that an active mig-21 pilot cannot decide after month of coding that the mig can or cannot stall, when the engine overruns or not (and this is a one engine tube vith a delta wing). The tomcat has variable geometry and double the engine :)

"Accurately reconstructed systems and avionics" no word to describe the ASP for example how much inaccuratelly reconstructed, wich is a post war technology analogue computer. I am not familiar with the tomcats system but what I am sure is that it is far more comlicated than a mig ASP.

It is obvious that whatever LN comes up with as "tomcat" it will be acepted a lot easier than the mig as practically nobody knows what a real tomcat is. The mig was a hard choice because this bird is something generations of aviation professionals and enthusiasts grew up with, and many know what a real mig is.

I wont buy it, no matter how much I want it because if a plane I know is that far from the real one what will be be with a plane I have no idea about? I could be sold a tie fighter as an f-14 believing that I sit in a real one. Not to mention that I have a bad feeling that this products were never ment to be finished at all, it will be sold as beta something again and stays as beta until an other sexy beta plane comes about and will be forgotten... capitalism :(

Just lamenting....

 

Like Sithspawn said, no one can better decide what product is a good purchase for themselves than themselves. To boycott a product line is a choice that is your to make. I just wouldn't expect others to agree with your stance when what is released so far is far better than it's closest alternative. When I purchase a beta anything I expect flaws to exist. A beta is an unfinished product. Perhaps you should have waited until the MiG was out of beta to purchase it. It is still a work in progress and still supported by Leatherneck Simulations. It seems not everyone has the patience to deal with the issues involved with beta releases which is what seems to be the case in this instance. Honestly, I cannot think of another Sim that models the MiG-21 better than this module... can you?


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The guy on the box seems a little too happy that he just ejected from a $50 million plane.

 

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I really want to know if leatherneck is going to release the F-14 in a package or as individual modules.

 

Like say if I only wanted the A and didn't want to pay for the A+/B. (I'll buy all but ya know ;) )

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I think the best way to get this thread firmly back on track would be a Mid March update:thumbup::music_whistling:

 

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Paramount doesn't give a rats ass about "customer base" size. Dangle a large enough contract out in front of them, and they'll let you stick a TOP GUN logo on a line of sex toys to reenact Quentin Tarantino's wet dreams between Maverick, Goose, Slider, and Iceman, akin to that Shiny Vampire Fanfiction movie out now.

 

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If, unfortunately Paramount is very large and the work of ED and colleagues is very small next to that film producer.

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30 000 people, "practically nobody". Yup.

Yep, true. There is quite a bit of people that know tons of stuff. People that made it, people that worked on it, people that flew it.....

There is even some published things that are quite informative even in the "casual" department :)

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What are you going to use to make the contract 'large'?

 

Your own fronted licensing dollars. If you're willing to pay Paramount substantially up front, and issue them a piece of any additional income taken from the product, they'll talk to you.

 

The point isn't that ED has a "small" customer base- it's that they don't have that sort of income to spend on such ancillary licensing. No IP holder is ever going to refuse money if it functions in parallel with their aims and operations, so long as it doesn't intentionally act to degrade the value of said IP.

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Slapping anything even remotely related to Top Gun on DCS: F-14 would be a mistake. No sense sending money off to Paramount Pictures for no reason. Their logo certainly won't attract any new customers and might even put a lot of them off. Words can't describe just how annoyed I would be to have the Top Gun logo slapped on the background image on the DCS menu screen. Terrible movie and not because it's unrealistic. It's the bad acting, bad story and being little more than a homoerotic navy recruitment video that puts me off of it.

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Slapping anything even remotely related to Top Gun on DCS: F-14 would be a mistake. No sense sending money off to Paramount Pictures for no reason. Their logo certainly won't attract any new customers and might even put a lot of them off. Words can't describe just how annoyed I would be to have the Top Gun logo slapped on the background image on the DCS menu screen. Terrible movie and not because it's unrealistic. It's the bad acting, bad story and being little more than a homoerotic navy recruitment video that puts me off of it.

 

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....little more than a homoerotic navy recruitment video that puts me off of it.

 

Good grief, Tarantino really got his speech accepted with standing ovations on this one, didn't he? :huh:

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It's the bad acting, bad story and being little more than a homoerotic navy recruitment video that puts me off of it.

 

Navy recruitment video seems to be a reverse logic preconception based on the after effects of the movie, but is factually wrong as the movie was neither initiated by the Navy, nor they had any influence on the script or the scenes. Now, it's probably that the Secretary of the Navy which OK'd the filming to the producers thought of this potential when he did so, but that would be as far as that goes.

 

As far as homo-eroticism goes, I get the impression part of it is the sign of the times where today people are in fact more homophobic than before so all sorts of things which were considered relatively normal before are now considered totally gay. Although, same references get drawn to a lot of other movies from the same period so perhaps there was a 'sinister gay cabal' behind all this in the 80s movie industry. Some scenes do go over the top, but from the documentary it seems it was the director's fault since he didn't know what to do with those scenes from the script so he took them towards the absurd ("soft porn" as he calls it).

 

Good grief, Tarantino really got his speech accepted with standing ovations on this one, didn't he? :huh:

 

Apparently, this was written by the renowned female critic in the NewYorker after the movie's release: "Writing in The New Yorker, Pauline Kael said the film redefined masculinity as "how a young man looks with his clothes half off" and called the picture a gay recruiting poster for the Navy."


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As far as homo-eroticism goes, I get the impression part of it is the sign of the times where today people are in fact more homophobic than before so all sorts of things which were considered relatively normal before are now considered totally gay. Although, same references get drawn to a lot of other movies from the same period so perhaps there was a 'sinister gay cabal' behind all this in the 80s movie industry. Some scenes do go over the top, but from the documentary it seems it was the director's fault since he didn't know what to do with those scenes from the script so he took them towards the absurd ("soft porn" as he calls it).

 

Tottaly off topic but here goes. There is no way my society is more homophobic than before, dont know about anywhere else but Oz but just no way. Yes we are more likely to label something as gay, but at least in my circle of existence labeling something as gay is in no way homophobic (scared of homosexualism) or meant as a derogatory term, it's the opposite in many cases. Considering something "totally gay" does not implicitly mean it is a bad or fearful thing.

The movie was not bad because of any of that stuff, it;s just that most of the male characters were total tools, badly acted and with terrible dialog. That said it is great fun to watch with a bunch of mates and make fun of it.

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This is going to be an amazing release. It would be great if the Hawk magically develops a tail hook mod in preparation. My dad and I have been getting into the Mig-21 and really learning how to fly her. We have no idea how to use it in combat other than turning things on. Just flying her and landing is a huge milestone for any Mig-21 pilot. If this Kitty is half as good we will have a remarkable add on.

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I really want to know if leatherneck is going to release the F-14 in a package or as individual modules.

 

Like say if I only wanted the A and didn't want to pay for the A+/B. (I'll buy all but ya know ;) )

 

Could we stay on topic please? Otherwise pretty good questions like this one might get overlooked.

 

I too would like to know whether the A and the A+/B will be released as seperate modules or as some kind of combo?

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Could we stay on topic please? Otherwise pretty good questions like this one might get overlooked.

 

I too would like to know whether the A and the A+/B will be released as seperate modules or as some kind of combo?

 

The way i understand it, they announce it as a single module?

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The way i understand it, they announce it as a single module?

 

There is a bullet point in Cobra's OP:

 

Both -A and -B Model F-14's

 

So it appears we are getting two variants, I was just wondering whether they will be priced as a single module or seperately.


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most likely priced as one module... I mean, really, what do YOU think??

 

I would imagine he is thinking about the price, and Aviodev's justification of it, for the C-101.

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$60 is a fair price for the pair given the two are closely related variants and that they are two seaters.

 

don`t forget the free Theatre the bundle!

 

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don`t forget the free Theatre the bundle!

 

 

Yes but if you increase the cost of the module because of a free theatre, it's not really free is it? That said, I will pay whatever they ask for for this one!

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