Pikey Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Examples of complexity include e.g. Ground Radar, AI Systems, and more. The statement says there is new technology being developed, not needed by the Mig-21. It then says that the technology is complex. An example of how complex is given. It doesn't say what the technology is, just how complex. Ground radar cannot be confirmed or denied from the wording, that is all. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolga Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 On their website on the mig-21 page if you scroll down to the bottom on the left is what appears to be a f-4! But they also have pictures of a bunch of other aircraft all over the website. I had a dream the other night that cobra told me that one of the other aircraft was going to be a thunderchief! It was kinda funny "Long life It is a waste not to notice that it is not noticed that it is milk in the title." Amazon.co.jp review for milk translated from Japanese "Amidst the blue skies, A link from past to future. The sheltering wings of the protector..." - ACE COMBAT 4 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight"-Psalm 144:1 KJV i5-4430 at 3.00GHz, 8GB RAM, GTX 1060 FE, Windows 7 x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 On their website on the mig-21 page if you scroll down to the bottom on the left is what appears to be a f-4! But they also have pictures of a bunch of other aircraft all over the website. I had a dream the other night that cobra told me that one of the other aircraft was going to be a thunderchief! It was kinda funny If they were working on a Thud or an A-6, I would petition them to just outright take over ED. At that point, they've won at DCS Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleRabbit Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If they were working on a Thud or an A-6, I would petition them to just outright take over ED. At that point, they've won at DCS Hahah I would sign that petition :-D Member of Combined-Ops-Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 505 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I am pretty sure these are the next two aircraft being released by LNS. Every hint points to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentGun Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 ^^ when have they ever mentioned stealth? Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawal2 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I am pretty sure these are the next two aircraft being released by LNS. Every hint points to them. Ummm... NO :doh: "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fer_Fer Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Ill still bet on a Japanese Modern Jet, Either the F4J Kai, or the F1, which seem to be the most logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoSeungWan Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I am pretty sure these are the next two aircraft being released by LNS. Every hint points to them. If we had a B2 I don't think anyone would bother to make any more modules, they'd just be background noise. :megalol: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudRat02 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Mirage III or F-105 would be fantastic. Imagine the six day war, or launching from Thailand for down town Hanoi in the thud. Probably too epic. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 505 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 YOUR KILLIN ME SMALLS!!!!!! It was a joke. I really hope its the A-6 and the F-4U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 YOUR KILLIN ME SMALLS!!!!!! It was a joke. I really hope its the A-6 and the F-4U. You play DCS like a GIRL! Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooch Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I'd say they're probably working on a su-24. We've had an upgraded detailed 3d model for dcs world recently, plus su-24 is similar to the f-14 in terms of general aircraft configuration (two engines, variable geometry wings, two crew members...) so it would be easier for them to develop. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I'd like an F-8 Crusader... would be an excellent match up for the MiG-21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooch Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I'd like an F-8 Crusader... would be an excellent match up for the MiG-21. Yep! A Crusader has to come one day! It's one of the main aircrafts from the Vietnam conflict. And it looks appart, I mean I find this plane quite original :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Hrothgar Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 People keep bringing that up but the MiG-21Bis was never used in the Vietnam war. Not that I'd mind an F-8, but an F-5E or F-4E would be a better match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 505 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 You dont know the Great Bambino? He was the GREATEST pilot to ever!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 People keep bringing that up but the MiG-21Bis was never used in the Vietnam war. Not that I'd mind an F-8, but an F-5E or F-4E would be a better match. Why would an F-5E or F-4E be a better match? I don't see it...:huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Hrothgar Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 F-5E is the direct western equivalent of the MiG-21Bis. They are both low cost, simple to maintain light fighters built exclusively for WVR combat at a time when medium ranged BVR missiles were common. They also have similar introduction dates, both being in the early/mid 1970's. The F-8's in USN service were retired from service at about the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 F-5E is the direct western equivalent of the MiG-21Bis. They are both low cost, simple to maintain light fighters built exclusively for WVR combat at a time when medium ranged BVR missiles were common. They also have similar introduction dates, both being in the early/mid 1970's. The F-8's in USN service were retired from service at about the same time. Being built exclusively for WVR isn't true for the F-5E, but it would be for the F-5A. F-5E's were given BVR capabilities with Sparrows and, eventually for some operators, AMRAAMs. The Crusader, Mirage 3, and Draken would be better fits. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Hrothgar Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The F-5E couldn't use Sparrows and had a radar range of 20-30km. There were upgrades made for it later on that added a better radar, AIM-7's and AIM-120's, but the basic F-5E from the factory was limited to AIM-9's and the guns for air to air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 F-5E is the direct western equivalent of the MiG-21Bis. They are both low cost, simple to maintain light fighters built exclusively for WVR combat at a time when medium ranged BVR missiles were common. They also have similar introduction dates, both being in the early/mid 1970's. The F-8's in USN service were retired from service at about the same time. I disagree, the F-8 is a much better match IMO, also being designed primarily as a WVR fighter with its 4x 20mm cannons and limited missile capability. Furthermore the F-8 was introduced in 1957, a mere two years ahead of the MiG-21 which came on the scene in 1959. As such their introduction dates are very similar as well. The F-8 didn't end its frontline fighter career with the USN until 1976. Finally the Crusader would claim the best kill ratio of any American type in the Vietnam War, 19:3. Of the 19 aircraft claimed during aerial combat, 16 were MiG-17s and three were MiG-21s. I vote F-8 Crusader all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawal2 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Considering the fact that none of these are WW2 birds and none of them have ground radar... They can't be the next 2 planes.. How about we get back on topic? "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The F-5E couldn't use Sparrows and had a radar range of 20-30km. There were upgrades made for it later on that added a better radar, AIM-7's and AIM-120's, but the basic F-5E from the factory was limited to AIM-9's and the guns for air to air. And you reckon the 21bis isn't an upgrade of some form? :music_whistling: Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsb47 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 And you reckon the 21bis isn't an upgrade of some form? :music_whistling: He's not saying that it's not. He's saying the stock F-5E is a good match for the Mig 21bis. Besides, the F-5E is itself an upgrade of the F-5A. Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit | i7-4790K@4GHz | 8GB RAM | GTX970 347.52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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