Next aircraft speculation

[draconus]

Surprise everyone and make F-15C

Another icon, low hanging fruit, A2A only, weapons already done, shorter dev time, easy money.

[TLTeo]

As ever, Draken or riot

[kseremak]

8 hours ago, draconus said:

Surprise everyone and make F-15C

Another icon, low hanging fruit, A2A only, weapons already done, shorter dev time, easy money.

 

Full fidelity fighter variant F-15A or C "not a single pound for air to ground" would be great, but i don't think it would be wise to have three different variants made by 3 different teams, FC3 F-15C by ED, F-15E by RAZBAM and F-15A or C by Heatblur. They would result in repeating each other's work, wasting the time and finally presenting inconsistent modules.

Our best hope for fighter F-15 will be RAZBAM F-15A/C derived from F-15E or ED upgrading existing F-15C to the full fidelity standard.

 

All aircrafts people propose here for Heatblur looks fantastic F-111, F-4, Draken, Tornado

 

 

 

When i think about what HB said, A-6 has been revealed earlier than they wanted due to some guys guessed they wouldn't be making A-6 only to make an AI aircraft... This strongy suggest J35 Draken may be one of the two non revealed modules. Oh yeah!

 

[Leviathan667]

Whatever  aircraft modules HB is going to release, I'd suggest they start by releasing the early variants first (the opposite of what they did with the F-14B being released before the -A).

[Max Thunder]

Due to the fact fact that they merged with TG the Tornado and the F4 could be possible. Personally I would like to see the Phantom, but both would be a day one purchase. 

[Hummingbird]

Gripen C could also be a possibility, seeing as it's soon replaced by the Gripen E. Likely won't be several years before HB make their next aircraft anyway. 

[ustio]

3 hours ago, Hummingbird said:

Gripen C could also be a possibility, seeing as it's soon replaced by the Gripen E. Likely won't be several years before HB make their next aircraft anyway. 

eehh wasn't the reason why HB made the AJS version instead of the JA was because some the of the system from the JA is still being used on the Gripen?

[QuiGon]

4 hours ago, Hummingbird said:

Gripen C could also be a possibility, seeing as it's soon replaced by the Gripen E. Likely won't be several years before HB make their next aircraft anyway. 

 

Heatblur is definitely interested in that as they tried to get in contact with Saab for a Gripen a while ago:

 

 

Who knows, maybe this worked out and they're already busy with a Gripen for DCS

[Northstar98]

On 7/25/2021 at 1:31 PM, ustio said:

eehh wasn't the reason why HB made the AJS version instead of the JA was because some the of the system from the JA is still being used on the Gripen?

 

That's what I thought. And this was probably going to be a Gripen A, the problem was that some of the systems were used/derived from the JA 37 mod. D, which was also classified (the mod. D being an early 2000s variant of the JA 37).

 

As for what the modules could be, here's what I'm hoping for:

• F-4S Phantom II (which is probably the most appropriate version for the Forrestal HB are offering (which is at least an early 80s fit).
• F-111F circa 1981-1991.
• Tornado IDS (preferably an 80s RAF GR.1, but I'll take any IDS from the same period).

Edited July 28, 2021 by Northstar98

[Hummingbird]

11 hours ago, QuiGon said:

 

Heatblur is definitely interested in that as they tried to get in contact with Saab for a Gripen a while ago:

 

 

Who knows, maybe this worked out and they're already busy with a Gripen for DCS

 

Yeah I'm really hoping for that. A Gripen C in DCS would be amazing.

[bies]

On 7/23/2021 at 3:06 PM, draconus said:

Surprise everyone and make F-15C

Another icon, low hanging fruit, A2A only, weapons already done, shorter dev time, easy money.

 

Imagine Heatblur's F-15 as an F-14 counterpart:

 

Analog F-15A from mid 1970s Israeli-Arab wars,

Semi-analog F-15C from 1979,

Digital F-15C MSIPII from 1985, with all it's electronic gizmos and the Desert Storm

 

But what other guys said it wouldn't be wise making different F-15s by different developers. Even if Heatblur is arguably the best 3rd party.

Edited July 28, 2021 by bies

[Snappy]

On 7/25/2021 at 3:08 PM, Northstar98 said:

 

That's what I thought. And this was probably going to be a Gripen A, the problem was that some of the systems were used/derived from the JA 37 mod. D, which was also classified (the mod. D being an early 2000s variant of the JA 37).

 

As for what the modules could be, here's what I'm hoping for:

• F-4S Phantom II (which is probably the most appropriate version for the Forrestal HB are offering (which is at least an early 80s fit).
• F-111F circa 1981-1991.
• Tornado IDS (preferably an 80s RAF GR.1, but I'll take any IDS from the same period).

 

Didn’t they state somewhere in connection with their development map, that the 2 other modules would be „Fighter-type“ aircraft?

Granted that definition can be somewhat interpreted broadly , but then again I‘m almost sure they would’ve said „attack“ , „strike“ or „bomber“ or nothing at all if that applied .

But that’s all guessing. 
 

regards,

 

 Snappy 

[Northstar98]

Just now, Snappy said:

Didn’t they state somewhere in connection with their development map, that the 2 other modules would be „Fighter-type“ aircraft?

Granted that definition can be somewhat interpreted broadly , but then again I‘m almost sure they would’ve said „attack“ , „strike“ or „bomber“ or nothing at all if that applied .

But that’s all guessing. 
 

regards,

 

 Snappy 

 

Do you have a source? I don't remember them specifiying what type of aircraft was on the table.

[Snappy]

Hi @Northstar98

Think it was this quote from IronMike from page 2 of the sticky development roadmap thread: 

 

 

Lastly: "Next Gen" means next generation of Heatblur module, rather then a next generation of fighter jet. I can see how this wording is a bit misleading. They will be fighters though, that is all we will admit for now. 
 

sorry,not sure why his smiley got supersized.It was part of his original post, it’s not meant to annoy you Northstar.

 

kind regards,

 Snappy 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Snappy

[Northstar98]

21 hours ago, Snappy said:

Hi @Northstar98

Think it was this quote from IronMike from page 2 of the sticky development roadmap thread: 

 

 

Lastly: "Next Gen" means next generation of Heatblur module, rather then a next generation of fighter jet. I can see how this wording is a bit misleading. They will be fighters though, that is all we will admit for now. 
 

sorry,not sure why his smiley got supersized.It was part of his original post, it’s not meant to annoy you Northstar.

 

kind regards,

 Snappy 

 

 

Thanks!

 

The only thing I will say though is that it's hard to tell whether or not they were referring to fighter jet as being the next module, or whether they were just referring to fighter jet generations.

Edited July 30, 2021 by Northstar98

[Lurker]

I'm confused, isn't their "secret" next module now officially the Typhoon?

[Northstar98]

1 hour ago, Lurker said:

I'm confused, isn't their "secret" next module now officially the Typhoon?

 

They supposedly had 2 secret modules beside the Typhoon and the A-6E.

 

Though the roadmap now only mentions 1 secret module.

[Baco]

I beg Heatblur to go backwards. enough of ultra modern fantasy-educated guess uber weapons.. You excel with tho 70s aircraft Vigen and Tomcat.. keep it real, keep it in the early cold war, keep it where we have data and bras balls pilots that by the way are diming fast...get the first hand accounts of the golde years pilots. Give us a Phantom or two

 

[Spurts]

An F-104A with the big -19 motor

[Thunder_]

I’ve got some on off info that the F15E won’t be multi crew or a “jester” scenario but would b good to see that thought after this last 5 years of work in progress pics , so my personal choice is the mudhen , but would b also cool to the other ideas here

[Lurker]

2 hours ago, Bozo_ said:

I’ve got some on off info that the F15E won’t be multi crew or a “jester” scenario but would b good to see that thought after this last 5 years of work in progress pics , so my personal choice is the mudhen , but would b also cool to the other ideas here

 

Razbam is currently developing the Mudhen. 

[Thunder_]

Yes they r hope we can see the results soon, looking forward to it 

[Hummingbird]

My 3 best bets:

 

- J-35F2 Draken

- JA-37 Viggen 

- JAS-39 Gripen C

 

 

Edited August 6, 2021 by Hummingbird

[Evoman]

On 7/23/2021 at 8:54 PM, Leviathan667 said:

Whatever  aircraft modules HB is going to release, I'd suggest they start by releasing the early variants first (the opposite of what they did with the F-14B being released before the -A).

From what I have read the F-14B was done first because that's the variant they had most data on and it had a larger community of former Tomcat pilots/RIOs available to help as consultants on the project. It is interesting to know that DCS always tries to consult with former pilots to get their input to make the module as realistic as possible.

Which makes me a little more concerned about doing older aircraft because their respective communities of former pilots dwindle as time passes.

[Furiz]

I wish for Rafale F2.