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Ha ha, very funny all your sarcastic replies. But FYI, I did find one awesome solution!

 

Can't post the link, but just Google "BF109 K-4 Audio Production 2.0 LOF"

 

Not the flaps buzzer blends in nicely.

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Whatever, bug or not, with smalls flap deployment you had no sound last time I flew. If it's buzzing you are clearly deploying too much flaps while flying. And I seriously doubt it helps you in combat.

 

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Whatever, bug or not, with smalls flap deployment you had no sound last time I flew. If it's buzzing you are clearly deploying too much flaps while flying. And I seriously doubt it helps you in combat.

 

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I'll ask about it as well, I generally dont deploy flaps in combat myself, and what a pain it must have been to anyways if that was common practice...

 

My initial thoughts are it is a little loud, but probably operating as it should.


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It is not a sound of flaps, it is a siren scream that tells you (don't fly too fast or you will loose your flaps).
Negative mate, it's a buzzer telling that you lowered flaps and cut throttle (like while landing) and forgot gear down :smilewink:. Nothing to do with speed.

 

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Negative mate, it's a buzzer telling that you lowered flaps and cut throttle (like while landing) and forgot gear down :smilewink:. Nothing to do with speed.

 

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It is still a siren/buzzer. So it is not purely mechanical and it was suppose to be loud.

 

I always thought it is there because the flaps are manual and so pilot needs to retract them earlier before speeding up, so it helps remember about them, to have time to retract them. Well... whatever the purpose, the way it works is the same. Thx for correction.

 

It does a loud 'beep' and it should not be tuned down.:book:

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It is not a sound of flaps, it is a siren scream that tells you (don't fly too fast or you will loose your flaps).

 

I think most people understood it was a warning buzzer/siren lol.... That said, it could be argued how well you would hear it in a noisy cockpit, although based on a G2 manual that states it only sounded when the engine was at an idle, flaps where down and gear was up. It should probably be tuned for an idle throttle if/when ED corrects its function.

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Hello. Did not find the answer anywhere. Is there any way to shut up the "flaps extended" sound? It it really annoying in a dogfight...

 

In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm.

Edited: page 20 in PDF file (page number -13- , point 8. )

""" 8. Signalhorn ertönt, wenn das Fahrwerk nicht mehr eingerastet ist und gleichzeitig die Landeklappen angestellt sind.

Das Horn ist nur bei Leerlauf gut zu hören.""" (thanks to golani79 for his help)

 

 

The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted.


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In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm.

 

The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted.

 

I have "Checkflight Gustav" cd and there's onboard recording from "black six" (G2) and during take-off you can clearly hear that horn sound until pilot have take flaps up, with take-off power. IIRC it's same way in one of the EADS "rote 7" onboard videos.

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I have "Checkflight Gustav" cd and there's onboard recording from "black six" (G2) and during take-off you can clearly hear that horn sound until pilot have take flaps up, with take-off power. IIRC it's same way in one of the EADS "rote 7" onboard videos.

 

Interesting, that does contradict the manual that is out there...

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I have "Checkflight Gustav" cd and there's onboard recording from "black six" (G2) and during take-off you can clearly hear that horn sound until pilot have take flaps up, with take-off power. IIRC it's same way in one of the EADS "rote 7" onboard videos.

 

 

I can confirm this as well

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Interesting, that does contradict the manual that is out there...
Indeed, but they are modern and valuable aircraft with pilots not crazy enough to lower flaps in combat lol.gif so it can be logical they set that way as a warning. The problem with warbirds like those (even they aren't German Meserschmitt...) is a detail like that says anything about the real deal :(.

 

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In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm.

 

The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted.

 

Thanks for the manual. But your german is slightly imprecise.

 

Interesting, that does contradict the manual that is out there...

 

The manual states:

 

The signalhorn sounds when the landing gear is not locked anymore and simultaneously the flaps are extended(not mentioned if partially or completely extended).

The signalhorn is only good to hear at idle.

 

 

So to fix our problem, the engine needs to be louder if not at idle setting...

 

 

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Ah so horn should sound even as gear descends? I think it shuts off in the sim as soon as gear starts to move down doesnt it?

And you are saying the manual states that the signal horn is only good to hear at engine idle? And has nothing to do with the position of the throttle?

 

I only saw the English translation, can you post the full German text about this with your translation if you dont mind?

 

 

Thanks for the manual. But your german is slightly imprecise.

 

 

 

The manual states:

 

The signalhorn sounds when the landing gear is not locked anymore and simultaneously the flaps are extended(not mentioned if partially or completely extended).

The signalhorn is only good to hear at idle.

 

 

So to fix our problem, the engine needs to be louder if not at idle setting...

 

 

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In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm.

 

The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted.

 

Just to get that correctly:

the manual says the horn sounds if landing gear is not locked and simultaneously flaps are deflected. Only when the engine is idling the sound is to be heard clearly.

When engine is revving higher, the horn is still sounding, but may be over-heard due to the loud engine.

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Just to get that correctly:

the manual says the horn sounds if landing gear is not locked and simultaneously flaps are deflected. Only when the engine is idling the sound is to be heard clearly.

When engine is revving higher, the horn is still sounding, but may be over-heard due to the loud engine.

 

Good stuff guys, thanks!

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Just to get that correctly:

the manual says the horn sounds if landing gear is not locked and simultaneously flaps are deflected. Only when the engine is idling the sound is to be heard clearly.

When engine is revving higher, the horn is still sounding, but may be over-heard due to the loud engine.

 

Well .. Then wrong modeling too, .. because the horn should sound less than the engine noise when revolutionized, and now it does not.

 

Falke, as you say the engine has to sound higher than the horn, in normal running. Now it is the other way.


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Well .. Then wrong modeling too, .. because the horn should sound less than the engine noise when revolutionized, and now it does not.

 

Falke, as you say the engine has to sound higher than the horn, in normal running. Now it is the other way.

 

Wouldn't call it wrong modelling, more like a tweaking of volumes... no need to be so down on everything.

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I only saw the English translation, can you post the full German text about this [...]

 

This is to be found on page 13 (page number of the scanned document) in the linked manual from above:

 

8. Signalhorn ertönt, wenn das Fahrwerk nicht mehr eingerastet ist und gleichzeitig die Landeklappen angestellt sind.

Das Horn ist nur bei Leerlauf gut zu hören.

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