TAW_Impalor Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Hello. Did not find the answer anywhere. Is there any way to shut up the "flaps extended" sound? It it really annoying in a dogfight... 12900KF@5.4, 32GB DDR4@4000cl14g1, 4090, M.2, W10 Pro, Warthog HOTAS, ButtKicker, Reverb G2/OpenXR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanK Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Yes dont use Flaps in a Dog fight :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Extend the landing gear. ;) Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orava Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 turn off your speakers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAW_Impalor Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Ha ha, very funny all your sarcastic replies. But FYI, I did find one awesome solution! Can't post the link, but just Google "BF109 K-4 Audio Production 2.0 LOF" Not the flaps buzzer blends in nicely. 12900KF@5.4, 32GB DDR4@4000cl14g1, 4090, M.2, W10 Pro, Warthog HOTAS, ButtKicker, Reverb G2/OpenXR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Whatever, bug or not, with smalls flap deployment you had no sound last time I flew. If it's buzzing you are clearly deploying too much flaps while flying. And I seriously doubt it helps you in combat. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 22, 2015 ED Team Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Whatever, bug or not, with smalls flap deployment you had no sound last time I flew. If it's buzzing you are clearly deploying too much flaps while flying. And I seriously doubt it helps you in combat. S! I'll ask about it as well, I generally dont deploy flaps in combat myself, and what a pain it must have been to anyways if that was common practice... My initial thoughts are it is a little loud, but probably operating as it should. Edited March 22, 2015 by NineLine Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav IRL Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The flaps audio could be louder i my view. 4.8 I7, 1080, TMW&T, SSD, VKB MK.IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solty Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It is not a sound of flaps, it is a siren scream that tells you (don't fly too fast or you will loose your flaps). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It is not a sound of flaps, it is a siren scream that tells you (don't fly too fast or you will loose your flaps).Negative mate, it's a buzzer telling that you lowered flaps and cut throttle (like while landing) and forgot gear down :smilewink:. Nothing to do with speed. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solty Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Negative mate, it's a buzzer telling that you lowered flaps and cut throttle (like while landing) and forgot gear down :smilewink:. Nothing to do with speed. S! It is still a siren/buzzer. So it is not purely mechanical and it was suppose to be loud. I always thought it is there because the flaps are manual and so pilot needs to retract them earlier before speeding up, so it helps remember about them, to have time to retract them. Well... whatever the purpose, the way it works is the same. Thx for correction. It does a loud 'beep' and it should not be tuned down.:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 23, 2015 ED Team Share Posted March 23, 2015 It is not a sound of flaps, it is a siren scream that tells you (don't fly too fast or you will loose your flaps). I think most people understood it was a warning buzzer/siren lol.... That said, it could be argued how well you would hear it in a noisy cockpit, although based on a G2 manual that states it only sounded when the engine was at an idle, flaps where down and gear was up. It should probably be tuned for an idle throttle if/when ED corrects its function. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIIJG52_Otto_ Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Hello. Did not find the answer anywhere. Is there any way to shut up the "flaps extended" sound? It it really annoying in a dogfight... In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm. Edited: page 20 in PDF file (page number -13- , point 8. ) """ 8. Signalhorn ertönt, wenn das Fahrwerk nicht mehr eingerastet ist und gleichzeitig die Landeklappen angestellt sind. Das Horn ist nur bei Leerlauf gut zu hören.""" (thanks to golani79 for his help) The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted. Edited March 23, 2015 by III/JG52_Otto_+ http://www.jagdgeschwader52.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm. The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted. I have "Checkflight Gustav" cd and there's onboard recording from "black six" (G2) and during take-off you can clearly hear that horn sound until pilot have take flaps up, with take-off power. IIRC it's same way in one of the EADS "rote 7" onboard videos. CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 23, 2015 ED Team Share Posted March 23, 2015 I have "Checkflight Gustav" cd and there's onboard recording from "black six" (G2) and during take-off you can clearly hear that horn sound until pilot have take flaps up, with take-off power. IIRC it's same way in one of the EADS "rote 7" onboard videos. Interesting, that does contradict the manual that is out there... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solty Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 NVM [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipBall Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I have "Checkflight Gustav" cd and there's onboard recording from "black six" (G2) and during take-off you can clearly hear that horn sound until pilot have take flaps up, with take-off power. IIRC it's same way in one of the EADS "rote 7" onboard videos. I can confirm this as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Interesting, that does contradict the manual that is out there...Indeed, but they are modern and valuable aircraft with pilots not crazy enough to lower flaps in combat so it can be logical they set that way as a warning. The problem with warbirds like those (even they aren't German Meserschmitt...) is a detail like that says anything about the real deal :(. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iFoxRomeo Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm. The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted. Thanks for the manual. But your german is slightly imprecise. Interesting, that does contradict the manual that is out there... The manual states: The signalhorn sounds when the landing gear is not locked anymore and simultaneously the flaps are extended(not mentioned if partially or completely extended). The signalhorn is only good to hear at idle. So to fix our problem, the engine needs to be louder if not at idle setting... Fox Spoiler PC Specs: Ryzen 9 5900X, 3080ti, 64GB RAM, Oculus Quest 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 23, 2015 ED Team Share Posted March 23, 2015 Ah so horn should sound even as gear descends? I think it shuts off in the sim as soon as gear starts to move down doesnt it? And you are saying the manual states that the signal horn is only good to hear at engine idle? And has nothing to do with the position of the throttle? I only saw the English translation, can you post the full German text about this with your translation if you dont mind? Thanks for the manual. But your german is slightly imprecise. The manual states: The signalhorn sounds when the landing gear is not locked anymore and simultaneously the flaps are extended(not mentioned if partially or completely extended). The signalhorn is only good to hear at idle. So to fix our problem, the engine needs to be louder if not at idle setting... Fox Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.ZG15_FALKE Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 In according with the Bf-109G2 manual, flaps horn sounded only when the engine is at idle rpm. The flaps horn was to warn of an abnormal landing configuration. This device sounded ONLY with the flaps deployed, engine idling, and undercarriage retracted. Just to get that correctly: the manual says the horn sounds if landing gear is not locked and simultaneously flaps are deflected. Only when the engine is idling the sound is to be heard clearly. When engine is revving higher, the horn is still sounding, but may be over-heard due to the loud engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 23, 2015 ED Team Share Posted March 23, 2015 Just to get that correctly: the manual says the horn sounds if landing gear is not locked and simultaneously flaps are deflected. Only when the engine is idling the sound is to be heard clearly. When engine is revving higher, the horn is still sounding, but may be over-heard due to the loud engine. Good stuff guys, thanks! Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIIJG52_Otto_ Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Just to get that correctly: the manual says the horn sounds if landing gear is not locked and simultaneously flaps are deflected. Only when the engine is idling the sound is to be heard clearly. When engine is revving higher, the horn is still sounding, but may be over-heard due to the loud engine. Well .. Then wrong modeling too, .. because the horn should sound less than the engine noise when revolutionized, and now it does not. Falke, as you say the engine has to sound higher than the horn, in normal running. Now it is the other way. Edited March 23, 2015 by III/JG52_Otto_+ 1 http://www.jagdgeschwader52.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 23, 2015 ED Team Share Posted March 23, 2015 Well .. Then wrong modeling too, .. because the horn should sound less than the engine noise when revolutionized, and now it does not. Falke, as you say the engine has to sound higher than the horn, in normal running. Now it is the other way. Wouldn't call it wrong modelling, more like a tweaking of volumes... no need to be so down on everything. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golani79 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I only saw the English translation, can you post the full German text about this [...] This is to be found on page 13 (page number of the scanned document) in the linked manual from above: 8. Signalhorn ertönt, wenn das Fahrwerk nicht mehr eingerastet ist und gleichzeitig die Landeklappen angestellt sind. Das Horn ist nur bei Leerlauf gut zu hören. >> DCS liveries by golani79 << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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