I'm a beginner. Can any one teach me avoid missile?

[Red Hammer]

After I upgrade lock on to the v1.02.

I found it is hard to avoid missile, and it is hard to successfully use missile attack enemys. :helpsmilie:

[RedAssAg05]

can't help much on the avoiding missiles...still practicing that myself...

 

...regarding the USE of missiles, what is your missile effectiveness slider set at? anything other than 50 or 100 is pretty shaky...read that here on the board, and also experienced it first hand.

 

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[D-Scythe]

Well, here's a few things I learned from experience...

 

One, decoys are your friends. Often times, just releasing them on their own is good enough to let you squeak through a missile barrage, even if you can't get a visual on the incoming missile(s). Quick fact: the resistence rates for the most lethal radar missiles in LOMAC, the AIM-120 and R-77 is about 7% at the default missile slider setting. So always try to pump at least 10 chaff shots off - programming your joystick (or whatever) to shoot 10 off all at once is even better. Heat seekers are even better. Usually, 3 pairs of flares released quickly together is enough to decoy any incoming heat seeking missile. Releasing flares before the enemy shoots at you also is immensely effective.

 

Another thing about decoys...don't worry about them running out. It's better for you to dodge the current volley of incoming missiles bearing down at you by using lotsa chaff and flares then getting killed now just because you wanted to save your decoys just in case you need it later. No point in saving them if you're not going to use them - cause your dead.

 

The next point - watch the training tracks provided by the game on how to dodge missiles, before trying out the moves yourself. They help IMMENSELY. Once your done with those tracks, head over to Ironhand's website and download his training tracks/videos.

[S77th-GOYA]

Which plane are you flying, Hammer?

[Megile]

Online? Around mach .8 fly straight at the missle and roll as fast as you can with full rudder. This causes the aircraft to warp to the server and the missile will miss.

[Groove]

I think Ironhand have some very good demos / movies about avoiding / dodging missiles. Check his site at

 

http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/index.html

 

Regards

[Prophet_169th]

Online? Around mach .8 fly straight at the missle and roll as fast as you can with full rudder. This causes the aircraft to warp to the server and the missile will miss.

 

Only if you are on dial-up.

[GGTharos]

Online? Around mach .8 fly straight at the missle and roll as fast as you can with full rudder. This causes the aircraft to warp to the server and the missile will miss.

 

It has nothing to do with warping, and everything to do with LOMAC's 'guidance constant' ... you can do it easily off-line, too.

[mikoyan]

thas is why im getting killed all the time :cry: didn't know those tricks :doh:

[volk-19]

So always try to pump at least 10 chaff shots off - programming your joystick (or whatever) to shoot 10 off all at once is even better.

 

 

how can u program your joystick to shoot 10 off all at once...????

 

is it posible in lockon..??

[Kenan]

After I upgrade lock on to the v1.02.

I found it is hard to avoid missile, and it is hard to successfully use missile attack enemys. :helpsmilie:

 

Well, my padawan, avoiding missiles is a difficult task that requires both skill, charm and negotiating tactics with the opposing pilot who has you locked.

 

First, if you're locked ie. spiked, the first thing you should do is kiss the picture of your mom placed on the top left corner of the cockpit and say goodbye to her just in case you don't make it and they burry your left hand pinky finger (as it's most likely the only peace of your body they will recover after the crash).

 

Second, you should look at your RWR and see where the spike/launch is coming from. If it's coming from your 12 o'clock, then you should hit full afterburner (by pulling back the throttle as shown in the Top Gun movie) and fly directly towards the missile trying to confuse it.

 

That's right. Confuse it. Today's missiles are very much enhanced, filled with electronics and very, very smart.

 

Such missiles would expect you to crash your jet into the hill trying to do a desperate evasive manouver, or say, do an A-pole, F-Pole or 60m inverted 4G pole photoshoot (you fly above the missile, inverted and take a cool picture of it, as seen in the Top Gun movie).

 

BUT, in this case, the missile will just get freaked out, presuming you're suicidal and WANT to get hit, calculating possible reasons behind your irrational behaviour and it's Windows-based system will crash due to an overextensive CPU use / calculations.

 

The other way is try to talk to opposing pilot offering him free porn links on the global chat, while you're typing the links and he's reading it, you should use his diverted attention to do a sudden barrel roll combined with loop, get on his 6' clock and wait for the launch signal!

 

Now, as shown in the Top Gun movie, you having medium and short range missiles, means squat since it will take at least 2 minutes for your advanced radar to acquire a lock (even if the bandit is well within visual range), so you should just do or say something dramatic just to make the time pass faster or ask your wingman to position himself between you and the chased bandit.

 

Hell, if you're lucky you could even end up in a jet wash and TOTALLY confuse the enemy pilot who is by now in sucha state of panic that it will just bug out.

 

There is also a third way of avoiding the enemy missile:

 

If it's a heat seeker ie. infra-red guided missile, and presumably you have some extra fuel tanks under your pylons, at the right moment you position yourself AHEAD of missile, fly low and fast, pull your stick hard as possible (but only if you're alone in room) and jettison the tanks.

 

The fuel tanks will, you see, hit the ground and make a huuge Hollywood explosion. The explosion will make the IR missiles change their path and go after the new heat source!

 

That would be it.

 

BTW, if you're flying SU33, before you land, make sure you do at least one 400 knts flybie over Kuznetsov, even if one of your engines is down, doesn't really matter as long as it looks cool.

 

I hope you will find this info useful, and if not, you can always rent the Top Gun movie and learn from it.

[GGTharos]

And remember, if you hit the brakes, Kenan will fly right by.

[phantom_fly85]

 

I hope you will find this info useful, and if not, you can always rent the Top Gun movie and learn from it.

 

Wow, learning from a Top Gun movie, that's a first. :helpsmilie:

 

Be entertained by Cruise, don't learn from him. Actually he makes me sick!

[cool_t]

Challenge your self

 

Set a mission with multiple sams, set up options for imortal and practice.

 

:music_whistling:

 

Cool t

 

ps. use your guns or the water mark for AA missles to smash sam sites. Ask the Panters group they put a new sam site with AAA to keep me away, I will get them all dont worry guys.:pilotfly:

[Red Hammer]

I'm flying Su-27.

S77th-GOYA

Any advice?

[Red Hammer]

:cry: Can any one help?

It takes me 2 to 3 missiles to kill a enemy aircraft.

But every time when enemy launch every missiles I have to crash 2 to 3 times.

[504Goon]

I can only repeat what Groove already said. Ironhand's tutorials are great, you should definetly have a look at them. Also go through the training tracks included in lockon. They should get you started..

 

I think Ironhand have some very good demos / movies about avoiding / dodging missiles. Check his site at

 

http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/index.html

 

Regards

[Guest Cali]

:cry: Can any one help?

It takes me 2 to 3 missiles to kill a enemy aircraft.

But every time when enemy launch every missiles I have to crash 2 to 3 times.

 

 

That's normal to use 2-3 missiles to get a kill sometimes. But it depends on how close you are to when you launch it.

[Red Hammer]

But I can't download Ironhand!!!!!!

[SuperKungFu]

Why not?

[VMFA-Blaze]

But I can't download Ironhand!!!!!!

 

What seems to be the problem, give us some feedback on what your doing...

 

There are some real simple downloads on the Ironhand site...

 

Are you at the air to air page? Clicking on the big grey arrow should start the download...

 

Some of the newer tutorials are very easy to watch as they playback on the Windows Media Player, its very uncomplicated.

 

Personally I recommend that you use these tutorials to help get you started.

 

This is how I finally learned after trial and error. I could have saved some time by going here first..

 

Good luck guy and enjoy the learning curve (LOL)

 

~S~

 

Blaze

[rlogue]

Online? Around mach .8 fly straight at the missle and roll as fast as you can with full rudder. This causes the aircraft to warp to the server and the missile will miss.

 

lol, I suspect that would rip the vertical stab off of the best of fighters in real world !

[rlogue]

Be careful which techniques you learn .. many of the people on the servers have figured out how to exploit weaknesses in the game ... if any changes are made to the missiles / radars / seekers in the future, these super fighters on the servers will likely see their scores go the other way and they will have to look for new weaknesses.

[Depede]

OFF-TOPIC

 

Be careful which techniques you learn .. many of the people on the servers have figured out how to exploit weaknesses in the game...

 

That sounds very interesting - I can't seem to find anything here on this forum regarding online exploits. Can you please tell me more?

 

There are some very, very skilled pilots online, who has used hours, days and months of training to get at their current level of überness.

 

I don't have that time, so I often get owned online, but I think it's more due to my lack of skills combined with their great skills than exploiting game flaws.

[ROE_Wedge]

Can someone explain to me why popping flares before an enemy shoots is a smart thing? What is the difference between chaff and flares and in what situations would i use one or the other? Sorry for the noobish question i usually avoid missiles fine but still just wondering.