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the DCS: Ka-50 BS 2 is one of my favourite modules. In reality the Ka-50 is able of firing Iglas (air to air IR missiles). I wonder why such a cool thing was never featured. I don't think it's classified... I think using those is like one way of tracking the enemy using the HMS (Helmet Mounted Sight :geek:) in the Su-27. Since the HMS is installed into the Ka-50 as well, then it shouldn't be a problem, I guess...

 

Please post any references regarding the missing of this feature or just share your thoughts.

 

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so why is it not featured in the BS2.0? :D Just kidding :)

that is the 1001 time..

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the DCS: Ka-50 BS 2 is one of my favourite modules. In reality the Ka-50 is able of firing Iglas (air to air IR missiles).

You are wrong.

Ka-50s (all built aircraft) do not able firing of any AA missile in reality.

Ka-52 can do it but not Ka-50.


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I don't get it. Why do people always get this misconception that the Ka-50 can fire AA missles?

 

Because there are photos of the KA-50 with A2A missles on it's wings.

 

Bit like the 33 and the antiship missle.

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Because there are photos of the KA-50 with A2A missles on it's wings.

 

And an A2A switch on the joystick :) (IIRC)

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I don't get it. Why do people always get this misconception that the Ka-50 can fire AA missles?

 

Well:

- It was advertised as being able to carry two types of air-to-air missiles

- It has been filmed carrying the R-73

- Anyone more than twenty years old first heard it described by Western analysts as a strange single-seat 'helicopter killer' helicopter. Some type of queer escort and interception helicopter rather than a tank-killer.

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Well:

- It was advertised as being able to carry two types of air-to-air missiles

- It has been filmed carrying the R-73

- Anyone more than twenty years old first heard it described by Western analysts as a strange single-seat 'helicopter killer' helicopter. Some type of queer escort and interception helicopter rather than a tank-killer.

 

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AND?

 

Gentlemen, who believes the Russians created a helicopter , unable to fight in combat without air air missiles ?

 

Let's use your brain , not look only on the historical facts of this helicopter

 

I'm sure in classified operations , the helicopter KA50 , use air air missiles

 

Let's be smart....hopefully once users are heard and not just those who are aligned with the creators

 

Perhaps , if we charged money for every missile we use , they would put missiles, air to air combat in the helicopter KA50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The 4-way on the Collective has a setting for A2A (Not used) along with inner, outer, both stations. And one button for slingload also, not in use. And as Devrim says. It's on the collective..

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it's quite sad they didn't do it, but i guess it was for good reasons... Anyway, last monday i shot down a F-15 with Vikhr :D

 

Why to do simple when you can do hard ? :megalol:

 

Anyway i'm not sure that any army would buy a kamov-50 in the version we have on DCS...


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Unless you can produce actual documentation that the KA-50 can/did operate any A2A missile then please produce it.. Excluding random photos and wikipedia.

 

The version that we have in DCS is one of 12? prototypes that were made.

 

The version that the Russians would export will be the KA-52...

 

Which by the way model in game is an eyesore:D

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Unless you can produce actual documentation that the KA-50 can/did operate any A2A missile then please produce it.. Excluding random photos and wikipedia.

 

The version that we have in DCS is one of 12? prototypes that were made.

 

The version that the Russians would export will be the KA-52...

 

Which by the way model in game is an eyesore:D

 

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Hardpoints: 4 (6 on Ka-52) under-wing hardpoints, plus 2 on wingtips for countermeasures or air-to-air missiles with a capacity of 2,000 kg and provisions to carry combinations of:

Rockets: 80 x 80 mm S-8 rockets and 20 x 122 mm S-13 rocket,

 

Missiles: 2 x APU-6 Missile racks, able to accommodate a total of 12 9K121 Vikhr anti-tank missiles, Vympel R-73 (NATO: AA-11 Archer) air-to-air missiles, Kh-25 semi-active laser guided tactical air-to-ground missiles

 

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"have appeared on test aircraft."

 

Also, I'm fairly certain the Ka-50 can't use the Kh-25MP (AS-12 Kegler), just the Kh-25ML (AS-10 Karen), but I could be wrong. Also, the AT-9 is the Ataka, if I recall correctly, and the Vikhr is technically an AT-16, although even the DCS:BS flight manual gets this wrong.

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