performance expectation on NEVADA

[JABO2009]

Guys, what FPS performance is to be expected with the soon available Nevada Map ?

 

Im running the "old" caucasian map with quite good FPS , also over Cities and with med to high quality settings.

 

1. Can anyone pls lead me to the thread where performace issues on the new map has already been discussed ? (couldnt find one)

 

2. I guess Nevada map will still be running under old Sim engine and changed only after DCS 2.0 is relaesed ?

 

Pls excuse my a bit nooby questions , but its been a while since I was active here, now coming more and more back with excitement cause of the upcoming relaeses :)

 

Hoping I'll be able to play on the Nevada map as well - as my system (CPU + GPU) are far from being up to date....

 

Cheers

Jabo

 

Intel I5-2400

ATI Sapphire HD 6850 1 GB RAM

Edited September 26, 2015 by JABO2009

[boedha68]

Guys, what FPS performance is to be expected with the soon available Nevada Map ?

 

Im running the "old" caucasian map with quite good FPS , also over Cities and with med to high quality settings.

 

1. Can anyone pls lead me to the thread where performace issues on the new map has already been discussed ? (couldnt find one)

 

2. I guess Nevada map will still be running under old Sim engine and changed only after DCS 2.0 is relaesed ?

 

Pls excuse my a bit nooby questions , but its been a while since I was active here, now coming more and more back with excitement cause of the upcoming relaeses :)

 

Hoping I'll be able to play on the Nevada map as well - as my system (CPU + GPU) are far from being up to date....

 

Cheers

Jabo

 

Intel I5-2500K

ATI Sapphire HD 6850 1 GB RAM

http://ark.intel.com/products/52210/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

 

Matt says that the fps would better in dcs 1.5/2.0. I think you must upgrade your videocard to gtx 960 or better.

[Aginor]

1.

Wags mentioned it in some videos, and there were also others who were allowed to do a small preview. I can post links shortly.

The overall consensus seems to be that DCS 1.5/2.0 is running much faster than current one, at least on decent hardware.

2. AFAIK Nevada requires the new engine, so no.

 

I think you must upgrade your videocard to gtx 960 or better.

unlikely. I expect it to run just fine on a 770. Dunno about ATI though, in the past the DCSW engine had problems with ATI cards (or the other way round)
Edited September 15, 2015 by Aginor

[Corvus]

New engine- EDGE is coming out with the 1.5 version (running old map). 2.0 will have additional tweaks and features (main one being ability to use multiple maps). So you can have EDGE without Nevada but you can't have Nevada without EDGE:)

[Pikey]

Probably worth mentioning that anyone that can answer this quesiton with authority wouldn't do so as they are still under a non disclosure agreement.

 

So we have Matt's word for it and some guesstimation. The key thing that's been repeated is that the new 3D engine makes use of the types of things modern graphics cards can do without putting additional burden on the CPU.

 

I'd say modern hardware should do better, but even that's a guess and quite honestly I'm just up for waiting to find out very soon.

[Aginor]

Probably worth mentioning that anyone that can answer this quesiton with authority wouldn't do so as they are still under a non disclosure agreement.

That's not completely true. Performance is mentioned in this article for example:

http://www.mudspike.com/dcs-world-2-preview-wwii-air-combat/

 

Otherwise I agree. Newer hardware is most likely better than older one, duh. :D

[boedha68]

1.

Wags mentioned it in some videos, and there were also others who were allowed to do a small preview. I can post links shortly.

The overall consensus seems to be that DCS 1.5/2.0 is running much faster than current one, at least on decent hardware.

2. AFAIK Nevada requires the new engine, so no.

 

unlikely. I expect it to run just fine on a 770. Dunno about ATI though, in the past the DCSW engine had problems with ATI cards (or the other way round)

 

in the specs i read that the videocard must be at minimum 2GB. Yours is 1 GB:music_whistling:

 

DCS: NEVADA Test and Training Range Map

DCS: NEVADA Test and Training Range Map

Pre-purchase

The Nevada Test and Training Range (NTTR) has the largest contiguous air and ground space available for peacetime military operations in the free world. The NTTR land area includes simulated air defense systems, mock airbases, and several target ranges. The NTTR was also used for nuclear testing. Today, it is home to RED FLAG and other military exercises that include countries from around the world. The NTTR map for DCS World 2 includes Nellis AFB, Creech AFB and the infamous Groom Lake AFB (aka Area 51). This map also includes the city of Las Vegas, McCarran International Airport, and Hoover Dam.

 

Note: Customers that purchased DCS: A-10C Warthog while it was in beta (prior to February 21st, 2011) will be provided this map FOR FREE! Key will be available in the your personal section on the DCS site soon.

 

The open alpha version of DCS: NEVADA Test and Training Range Map will be available by the end of November 2015.

 

$49.99

$39.99

Bonus: $10

 

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PRE-PURCHASE

Minimum system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i3; RAM: 8 GB; Free hard disk space: 30 GB; Video: 2 GB RAM card, DirectX11 - compatible; requires internet activation.

 

Recommended system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+; RAM: 16GB; Hard disk space: 30 GB; Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX780 / ATI R9 290 DirectX11 or better; Joystick; requires internet activation.

Edited September 15, 2015 by boedha68

[BIGNEWY]

everyone's experience will be different as there are so many different set-ups.

 

As long as you take the minimum and recommended specification into account you will have no issues.

 

Minimum system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i3; RAM: 8 GB; Free hard disk space: 30 GB; Video: 2 GB RAM card, DirectX11 - compatible; requires internet activation.

 

Recommended system requirements: OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+; RAM: 16GB; Hard disk space: 30 GB; Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX780 / ATI R9 290 DirectX11 or better; Joystick; requires internet activation.

[OnlyforDCS]

Came here to post requirements from the DCS product pages, got sniped by Bignewy :thumbup:

[JABO2009]

thx for the numerous replies guys, very much appreciated !

Edited September 23, 2015 by JABO2009

[golani79]

in the specs i read that the videocard must be at minimum 2GB. Yours is 1 GB:music_whistling:

 

There are also GTX 770 with more than 1GB ;)

[Aginor]

in the specs i read that the videocard must be at minimum 2GB. Yours is 1 GB:music_whistling:

Pardon? Most 770 cards have 2GB, My own 770 card has 3GB IIRC, and there are even ones with 4.

 

EDIT: sniped by golani79 :D

[kobac]

Can I combine my old ASUS NVIDIA GF GTX 460 with Gigabyte GTX660 3GB GDDR5 OC or it might be better with Asus GTX660 2GB GDDR5 OC because it is from the same manufacturer?

[BIGNEWY]

Can I combine my old ASUS NVIDIA GF GTX 460 with Gigabyte GTX660 3GB GDDR5 OC or it might be better with Asus GTX660 2GB GDDR5 OC because it is from the same manufacturer?

 

no I believe only the same version numbers can be combined so x2 660's or x2 980's

mixing a brand is no problem zotac with asus for example.

[joey45]

Upgrade you GFX card. Also what is your RAM?

[joebloggs]

I think a Geforce 970 GTX is cheap for anyone wanting to PC game today. I think anything less and you're going to be left behind. You can pick up a Geforce 680 GTX on ebay dirt cheap, but I wouldn't recommend anything less then that today.

[Uther]

My GTX670 is still working fine for DCS. If it struggles with 2.0, then I will upgrade to a 970 or similar.

OP I think you will struggle with your 6850 1gb card.

[Vivoune]

Indeed, the current sweet spot in terms of bang for bucks is definitly the GTX 970. Try to get one on the second hand market.

 

One good graphic card is always better than to SLI two average cards. A lot of games aren't coded to take full adventage of SLI or Xfire, it'll consume much more power than a single more powerful card, SLI or Xfire can often raise configuration issues.

[=4c=Nikola]

ED announced better performance for DCS 1.5/2.0. One would think that with a same hardware and a same graphic settings, performance would be if not better, then at least the same as in current version of DCS.

So in theory, if you have the same amount of draw calls, same texture resolution... but can process it more efficiently (as you claimed), you would expect better performance. I understand that new engine gives you opportunity to increase level of details, utilize modern hardware and deliver greater visual immersion, but I'm not talking about that.

 

Now, few days ago, they announced some crazy minimum requirements even most of AAA game titles released up to 1year ago do not require (I've done my research). Ok, I understand that they switched to Dx11, and naturally, Dx10 hardware cannot be utilized anymore, and that was expected like few years ago when DCS2 was announced.

 

Of course, it's entirely possible the minimum spec are not real minimums, and just a tool to reduce diversity of hardware available for troubleshooting, or maybe a deal with hardware manufacturers (not accusing ED, just pointing out the common practice in AAA world) to increase sales.

 

Anyway, we have to test, if they don't lock hardware below minimum published spec (again, some AAA publishers/devs tend to do that).

Edited September 17, 2015 by =4c=Nikola

[OnlyforDCS]

ED announced better performance for DCS 1.5/2.0. One would think that with a same hardware and a same graphic settings, performance would be if not better, then at least the same as in current version of DCS.

 

Yes this is true, a card that meets the new minimum requirements will perform the same or better in DCS 2.0 compared to DCS World 1.X.X.

 

You can't expect a new enigne to have the same minimum requirements as an engine created 5 years ago. (Or whenever DCS World 1.X got released), this is completely unrealistic not to mention a very entitled way of thinking.

[Jumbik]

Well maybe we can see improved performance on Black sea map with the same details settings. The new HW specs are mainly pointed at Nevada map which is quite a different beast on its own.

[NineLine]

no I believe only the same version numbers can be combined so x2 660's or x2 980's

mixing a brand is no problem zotac with asus for example.

 

Yup, I think that is right, basically what will happen is your faster card will slow down to match the speed of your slower card, atleadt I think thats how it works... dont quote me on that though :)

[NineLine]

ED announced better performance for DCS 1.5/2.0. One would think that with a same hardware and a same graphic settings, performance would be if not better, then at least the same as in current version of DCS.

 

Its a new engine, you really cant compare. With a new engine comes new specs. They want to have the engine be around for a while, so for sure it would push the specs up. I mean right out of the gates, DCS will no longer support Non DirectX11 cards, that should be your first clue that things might change.

[NineLine]

Guys, what FPS performance is to be expected with the soon available Nevada Map ?

 

Im running the "old" caucasian map with quite good FPS , also over Cities and with med to high quality settings.

 

1. Can anyone pls lead me to the thread where performace issues on the new map has already been discussed ? (couldnt find one)

 

2. I guess Nevada map will still be running under old Sim engine and changed only after DCS 2.0 is relaesed ?

 

Pls excuse my a bit nooby questions , but its been a while since I was active here, now coming more and more back with excitement cause of the upcoming relaeses :)

 

Hoping I'll be able to play on the Nevada map as well - as my system (CPU + GPU) are far from being up to date....

 

Cheers

Jabo

 

Intel I5-2500K

ATI Sapphire HD 6850 1 GB RAM

http://ark.intel.com/products/52210/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

 

You wont see much on the performance of the new map, even the specs may change as things progress, we need to wait till Open Beta of the map. that said, the specs they have listed are probably pretty close, and a good bar to aim for minimum or higher.

 

Looking at the specs of your machine you gave, you will probably not be able to run the new stuff, least not well.

[=4c=Nikola]

I mean right out of the gates, DCS will no longer support Non DirectX11 cards, that should be your first clue that things might change.

 

That's why I bought a DX11 card... oh wait...

 

So you (ED) are telling me that at the lowest texture quality, at the lowest view distance, w/o AA and AF, with the lowest display resolution possible, the game requires at least 2gb of vram? That's just ridiculous. :)