WelshZeCorgi Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I tried out one of the more crazier toys of the hog, the CBU 97 and man that thing is like the creative mad scientist/Rube Goldberg machine of bombs. Widely destructive yet intensively precise, when you manage to get that thing in the middle of a convoy or a motor pool it feels like it's moving heaven and earth. But that's the problem, isn't it? Actually getting that thing on target. And even when you do, a strong persistent wind will carry the parachutes way off target, even when the bomb itself is planted perfectly where you wanted it. The single mission "target practice" is a prime example, lots of clustered up targets yet a strong gale that always pushes the bomblet's off course when they are in the parachute stage. Even the WCMD armed 105 version also seems to suffer from strong winds. Am I doing something wrong? Any advice on getting these things on target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd1000 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I tried out one of the more crazier toys of the hog, the CBU 97 and man that thing is like the creative mad scientist/Rube Goldberg machine of bombs. Widely destructive yet intensively precise, when you manage to get that thing in the middle of a convoy or a motor pool it feels like it's moving heaven and earth. But that's the problem, isn't it? Actually getting that thing on target. And even when you do, a strong persistent wind will carry the parachutes way off target, even when the bomb itself is planted perfectly where you wanted it. The single mission "target practice" is a prime example, lots of clustered up targets yet a strong gale that always pushes the bomblet's off course when they are in the parachute stage. Even the WCMD armed 105 version also seems to suffer from strong winds. Am I doing something wrong? Any advice on getting these things on target? Aim at a position upwind of the target so that the wind carries the bomblets onto the target area. It would be helpful to know how long it takes for the bomblets to get to the ground after release- then knowing wind speed and direction you could estimate where to aim with a decent level of accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Aim at a position upwind of the target so that the wind carries the bomblets onto the target area. It would be helpful to know how long it takes for the bomblets to get to the ground after release- then knowing wind speed and direction you could estimate where to aim with a decent level of accuracy. Easier said than done, it's what I've been doing the past few days, been using the first bomb like a spotting round than trying to correct the difference on the second. What usually happens is that a few get caught by the skeets, maybe 2 or 3 out of the 14-20 targets and when that happens the survivors scatter and makes it even harder to get them on the second pass. Any A10C pilots out there that can share their experiences with this munition and what they did on frustratingly windy days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blech Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Hi, Perhaps usefull DCS: A-10C Improving CBU Accuracy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixen Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 You can program wind correction in the CDU right? Doesn't it also calculate the drift on the parachutes and correct the drop position for it? I don't personally know If it also calculates parachute drift and how to do it. I think I saw it in some YouTube video but then for mk82 bombs and not cbu-105 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awjudge Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yeah, have a read up on Wind Correction using LASTE in the CDU, that should sort you out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFunk1606688187 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Has anyone demonstrated that LASTE wind should have any effect in compensating for the parachute submunition drift? 1 Warning: Nothing I say is automatically correct, even if I think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohgr Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Set your HOF to 500 and try it ;) Less time for the parachute bomblets to fall resulting in better accuracy. 1 V/R, Ohgr VCVW-11 "Vapor" USN AE 2001-2015 Heatblur Tomcat Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the help! I'll try it out once I get home... Then I'll become unstoppable!! Edited September 17, 2015 by WelshZeCorgi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohgr Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 This may help as well. 1 V/R, Ohgr VCVW-11 "Vapor" USN AE 2001-2015 Heatblur Tomcat Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 you don't need to aim upwind with CCIP , IF LASTE wind correction has been made. AFAIK, 97's are bugged to not drop where you want them. This is evident when you look from 14000 feet on smoke markers denoting where canister "kill circle" will be. Also I noticed bomblet munitions hit the ground, then bounce, then sort of zap the target. This is unrealistic considering all vids I saw for 97's. In reality, they just exit canister, the chutes remain up, then detach when puck detects a heat signal. If you see Mack's video (Future Weapons), you'll see what I want to say. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFPROT Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 No, LASTE wind correction option only helps you for general bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 WCMD itself do has a wind correction function. Dunno if RL A-10C have this. Ref: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=144282 EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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