King_Hrothgar Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Title says it all, I previously had my brake axis assigned to both left and right toe brakes on my CH pedals, but they no longer work for the MiG-21. They still work fine for all other modules, including those with the same style braking system (MiG-15, Ka-50...). I checked controls and they are properly assigned and respond in the axis configuration. They just don't do anything in the actual plane. Edit: Issue resolved itself without further input from me after playing with some other aircraft. But I've also had my stick randomly stop working in MP at the start of a new mission, It would then start working again upon disconnecting and reconnecting (no client restart). Edited October 2, 2015 by King_Hrothgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 It works after rebind... at least for me. But my left pedal that I use in 1.2.16 I cannot set in 1.5... I had to set the left one. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Brake axis is not working properly for me too. I have it set up to the CH throttle mini joystick :D. Sometimes if I fiddle with the setup it starts working, but stops again after mission restart. It was working fine before. The workaround I found is to bind the brake to additional axis, on the stick (so I have the brakes bound to two axis - not ideal). After I move the second axis, the first one starts working too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Does it work like an 'axis' on the real MiG-21 too? Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Hrothgar Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 In the real plane, it's a hand lever similar to a bicycle or motorcycle's front brake. The harder you squeeze, the harder the brake pads grip. So yes, it's an axis. For me the problem sort of went away. What I've found is if I push the right toe brake, then the left and then the right again, both toe brakes will activate the MiG-21's brakes. But the first couple presses won't do anything. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 In the real plane, it's a hand lever similar to a bicycle or motorcycle's front brake. The harder you squeeze, the harder the brake pads grip. So yes, it's an axis. For me the problem sort of went away. What I've found is if I push the right toe brake, then the left and then the right again, both toe brakes will activate the MiG-21's brakes. But the first couple presses won't do anything. Very strange. So you have 2 axes assigned to the wheel brake? Hrm, what should DCS/Mig do if one axis says 100% and the other 0%? (i.e. I am not surprised that some syncing issues arise in this case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So you have 2 axes assigned to the wheel brake? Hrm, what should DCS/Mig do if one axis says 100% and the other 0%? (i.e. I am not surprised that some syncing issues arise in this case) You're right, wierd things can hapen when two axes try to do the same thing. I would only use my second axis once, to activate the main one. Anyway, my "solution" caused my throttle to stop working because of another bug (thrust turns red and can't be bound). Back to square one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 For me the first press of the pedal does nothing but the sound sometimes but after the second push it starts working... mostly without sound. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harle Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 For me the brake axis starts working only after pushing the axis controller (right toe brake) to its limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Same issue, sometimes the axis work, but most of time no. BTW- Work OK in Mig-15. So, Mig-21 wheel brakes set for joy' trigger (+"switches"). ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Look's that this Mig-21 wheel brake axis issue was solved with the today update. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I don't think so. Also, still has problems with the chute release air supply that is consumed after first second in fact) press of brake axis. The only thing fixed was the typos in default.lua from keyboard settings so the game will not crash doe to RSBN channel changing. The change log doesn't say anything about Mig21... http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2512282&postcount=7 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 After the last update I test with two different controllers and Mig-21 wheel brakes work OK with axis. Just don't try assign two axis like people above use - no toe brakes there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 After the last update I test with two different controllers and Mig-21 wheel brakes work OK with axis. Just don't try assign two axis like people above use - no toe brakes there. Does not work for me. Single axis :D, CH pro throttle. The same setup works fine in 1.2 MiG-21, and with L-39 in 1.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Make sure you can go with the brake to maximum. Edit the axis if necessary. After a first press to maximum it will work but... you will lose air and eventually your brake chute will not open... prepare for long landing run and emergency braking if necesary [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Make sure you can go with the brake to maximum. Edit the axis if necessary. After a first press to maximum it will work but... you will lose air and eventually your brake chute will not open... prepare for long landing run and emergency braking if necesary It still doesn't work :(. I tried to tune the axis, and it goes all the way to the maximum, but the in the cockpit it doesn't move at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It seems we must wait for a patch to get it working back to where it was... maybe even better... cough cough... differential braking. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Mig-21 has ability do do "differential braking", or brake only one wheel (in British/Russia way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I know... but our DCS Mig21 has it... ruined? for playability... Mig15 and L39 have them correctly but our beloved Mig21 still has "game" features forced in sim mode... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 For me the brake axis starts working only after pushing the axis controller (right toe brake) to its limit. Same here. It also leads to the air leak problem which prevents the chute from working. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Play with deadzone and saturation adjusts, seems that your brake are partially pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) This is how my brake axis is set up. The same setup works in 1.2, a slightly modified works with Albatros (1.5 beta). It also worked intermittently with MiG-21 in beta before one of the hotfix, can't remember which one. edit: I'm pulling my axis almost to the breaking point :) so i'm pretty sure it goes all the way to the limit. It's not slider axis, thus the strange looking curve. Edited October 16, 2015 by grunf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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