DCS Pirate F14 Squadron

[AG-51_Razor]

We'll be doing VF-51 :thumbup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJYBK6FCvE

[Destroyer37]

Now we have Pirates and Mercenaries....http://www.dcs-mercenaries.enjin.com Hope to see you scallywags in the air, best of luck to you with the squadron building!

Edited October 7, 2015 by Destroyer37

[Woogey]

 

My personal vote would to follow in the foot-steps of groups like virtual VFA-113. Or create a virtual air wing (CVW...???) to offer more platforms.

 

 

Best,

 

Nick

 

Hello Nick, I like the airwing idea. In fact I vote for CVW-15. It is an airwing that was decommissioned in 1995 I believe. I am in the same camp as you with regards to authentic liveries and paying tribute to the legacy of those who served to create the heritage and ritual that is the U.S. Navy.

 

CVW-15 last served aboard the USS KittyHawk with such squadrons as: The Sundowners, Screaming Eagles, Royal Maces, the Warhawks, the KnightRiders, Hormel Hawgs, Dragonfires, Garudas, etc..... If that isn't a mixed bag I don't know what is? That covers, F-14's, A-7's or F/A-18's, A-6's, E-2C's, S-3's, and EA-6B's respectively. As the airwing transitioned from A-7's to F/A-18's it also transitioned Helos from the venerable SH-3 to the H-60 series.

 

Now, we will probably never get an S-3 or a E-2 as full modules, but Razbam is doing an A-6 eventually. If you are a naval aviation fan, no doubt you will buy all of these modules. Why not have a dedicated group of like minded individuals to fly with? -Woog

[BlackLion213]

Hello Nick, I like the airwing idea. In fact I vote for CVW-15. It is an airwing that was decommissioned in 1995 I believe. I am in the same camp as you with regards to authentic liveries and paying tribute to the legacy of those who served to create the heritage and ritual that is the U.S. Navy.

 

CVW-15 last served aboard the USS KittyHawk with such squadrons as: The Sundowners, Screaming Eagles, Royal Maces, the Warhawks, the KnightRiders, Hormel Hawgs, Dragonfires, Garudas, etc..... If that isn't a mixed bag I don't know what is? That covers, F-14's, A-7's or F/A-18's, A-6's, E-2C's, S-3's, and EA-6B's respectively. As the airwing transitioned from A-7's to F/A-18's it also transitioned Helos from the venerable SH-3 to the H-60 series.

 

Now, we will probably never get an S-3 or a E-2 as full modules, but Razbam is doing an A-6 eventually. If you are a naval aviation fan, no doubt you will buy all of these modules. Why not have a dedicated group of like minded individuals to fly with? -Woog

 

+1!

 

I think that virtual CVW-15 would be awesome. Like you mentioned, would allow for the Tomcat, A-7 (if Razbam continues with it), and F/A-18C. VF-51 and VF-111 are two of my favorites (just after VF-213 and VF-114 of CVW-11 ;)).

 

I certainly would vote for a CVW-15 organization.

 

-Nick

[Woogey]

We'll be doing VF-51 :thumbup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJYBK6FCvE

 

Cool Razor, I am a diehard VF-111 guy, so there is two of the Air Wing 15 Squadrons already!

 

Now here are some secondary benefits to an airwing. You could share server costs across multiple Virtual Squadrons. Different squadrons could have different schedules or time zones. All squadrons could share one website, with the webmaster serving as the "CAG." As an airwing, you potentially have a large group of people, that are familiar with similar operational procedures, thereby making Topgun style competitions much easier to implement. A standard set of scenery and object mods could be instituted as a group. In a private setting, unofficial mods and or Maps could be created by members for development and testing.

 

These are just a few that immediately came to mind. For those that are more casually available, a reserve squadron could be implemented as well. -Woog

Edited October 8, 2015 by Woogey

[steel_tiger1]

Vote for virtual air wing. Limitless possibilities.

[Frisco1522]

Vote for virtual air wing. Limitless possibilities.

 

Oh boy, smells like we need a poll!

 

Frisco1522

[Tirak]

Well since you asked, I'm heavily against taking the name of an old squadron. Like i said before, their victories, are not your victories. I think the squadron would have far more meaning if its accomplishments and culture were formed by the members, and not by trying to fit into the box of what real pilots did during real conflict. If I were to join a DCS tomcat squadron, I'd probably steer clear of any group that deliberately named and modeled themselves after a real world squadron, because it would tell me their culture is focused on living up to the past, and not blazing their name on the future.

[BlackLion213]

Well since you asked, I'm heavily against taking the name of an old squadron. Like i said before, their victories, are not your victories. I think the squadron would have far more meaning if its accomplishments and culture were formed by the members, and not by trying to fit into the box of what real pilots did during real conflict. If I were to join a DCS tomcat squadron, I'd probably steer clear of any group that deliberately named and modeled themselves after a real world squadron, because it would tell me their culture is focused on living up to the past, and not blazing their name on the future.

 

OK, thank you for the input. :)

 

Fortunately, it looks as though there will be options to suit different preferences on the matter.

 

I don't think those who prefer the name of a former squadron are trying to rest on the accomplishments of the past. But the Tomcat is the past....

 

Speaking for myself, I don't play DCS for the accomplishment. It's a game to take my mind off the stresses of work and such, luckily it's quite good at that (plus quick and easy in the evenings compared to some of my other interests/hobbies). But the prospect of sharing that enthusiasm with others sounds good, plus a chance for everyone to get better at flying - more minds and perspectives breeds better performance. I don't think the name would change that...but who knows.

 

-Nick

[Woogey]

There are definitely two different trains of thought on this subject. There are very valid points to consider on both sides of the fence. I know which side of the fence I am on, and here is why: Machines of war are made for one purpose, kicking your opponents ass better than he can kick yours. The machines themselves are direct reflections of a countries ingenuity and industrial might.

 

Fantasy paints can fall into a few categories, and Really I am not a fan of any of them. I think they are cheesy. One exception to this opinion of mine relates to movie paints. Yes Maverick's version of VF-1 was not real, I will sport his Livery, Same goes for Iceman's. In fact, you could create a fake virtual squadron based on either one of these and I would except them. I guess the main point here is, I will not have any of the purely fantasy paints loaded into my SIM. Therefore visibility will not be present unless accepted by the developer as an official livery.

 

To each there own, I happen to know that real world pilots enjoy DCS as well as us ARM chair jet jockies. Not everyone is riding on the coat tails of the real world fighter pilots, some are those pilots. You just never know. -Woog

Edited October 8, 2015 by Woogey

[pered]

Virtual air wing is a great idea, but differs from what I intended, a F14 squadron that is super professional, just like the real thing, but in DCS. There's plenty of air wings already, and our F14 Squad would have non pro members too, non representative of the squad.

 

On a side note, VF303 "Turkeys" sounds pretty good to me.

[Cool Breeze]

If I may add a vote, the VF-18 Griffins would be excellent name for the Tomcat squadron! It seems to me a good mythical creature for a virtual squadron!

If at a later date the organization of a composite support squadron of folks flying the more ground attack oriented aircraft, A-7, A-6, and F/A-18 is brought into being I would be very interested!

[Flycat]

Don't forget only the Persian boys have the ace of tomcat and one shoot with 4 kill record, US cat's had been destroy by the Excavator and only 4 air combat victory during service.

Just like the ace of eagle is in Israel, XDDD

[pered]

Poll to be posted soon. Sorry guys, I'll be sticking to the idea of an F14 specialised squadron only, for now. That only implies a select people of the community will fly the F14 with our squadron name, and the title ACE on. These select people will be chosen from a joint decision of the staff. Squadron names will be assigned after 1 month of serving the squadron. The names you might get will depend on you, and the active members. The other members will be free to fly whatever they wish, just without the ACE designation.

 

Pere

Edited October 8, 2015 by pered

[captain_dalan]

Good call on the poll.

 

BTW, how would we train if we flew F-14's only? Would we have a sister adversary squadron?

 

P.S. Turkeys does have a nice non intrusive ring to it (as opposed to more "macho" oriented themes). Me likes :)

[pered]

We would separate the teams, aggressors vs defenders. We could also do sessions with very experienced squadrons, in the future, when we get the respect we shall deserve.

[captain_dalan]

But we would still need other types of planes for DACT and at least some of us would have to be proficient flying them.

 

EDIT-ed the multiple typos :P

Edited October 8, 2015 by captain_dalan

[BlackLion213]

But we would still need other types of planes for DACT and at least some of use would have to proficient flying them.

 

Absolutely! I think that DACT would be an essential part of building the right skill set. I already spend a lot of time in the MiG-21 and L-39. I also plan to learn the Mirage 2000, Hawk (when it gets it's EFM), and Hornet in addition to the Tomcat.

 

I think that such an organization would need their crew members to spend a lot of time in other types fighting against the Tomcat. It really gives you great insight into the Tomcat's strength and weaknesses (which will vary considerably by opponent).

 

Also, spending time learning basic stick and rudder skills would be important, even before the Tomcat is released. So, such a squadron could form and meet for BFM training well before the Tomcat is available. Once crew members are comfortable with a few different aircraft for basic flight and BFM, they can transition and start learning the very complicated and demanding F-14. Would help to avoid the uber steep learning curve that the aircraft might present (especially the F-14A with it's finicky engines).

 

At least, thats what I was thinking.

 

-Nick

[Stratos]

I vote for the Griffins, I like the idea. And I hope for a Belsimtek F-5 flyable so we can train ourselves.

[pered]

Absolutely! I think that DACT would be an essential part of building the right skill set. I already spend a lot of time in the MiG-21 and L-39. I also plan to learn the Mirage 2000, Hawk (when it gets it's EFM), and Hornet in addition to the Tomcat.

-Nick

 

I completely agree with you. Agressors would be a wide variety of planes, to polish/ improve pilot skills.

 

Something I was also thinking, for the ACE pilot training programme, we shall have pilots do the assigned tasks and then via livestream, analyse our buddy's mistakes and that way all of us will learn.

[pered]

I vote for the Griffins, I like the idea. And I hope for a Belsimtek F-5 flyable so we can train ourselves.

 

Please vote on our poll which is up here:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=149525

 

Pere

[captain_dalan]

Absolutely! I think that DACT would be an essential part of building the right skill set. I already spend a lot of time in the MiG-21 and L-39. I also plan to learn the Mirage 2000, Hawk (when it gets it's EFM), and Hornet in addition to the Tomcat.

 

I think that such an organization would need their crew members to spend a lot of time in other types fighting against the Tomcat. It really gives you great insight into the Tomcat's strength and weaknesses (which will vary considerably by opponent).

 

Also, spending time learning basic stick and rudder skills would be important, even before the Tomcat is released. So, such a squadron could form and meet for BFM training well before the Tomcat is available. Once crew members are comfortable with a few different aircraft for basic flight and BFM, they can transition and start learning the very complicated and demanding F-14. Would help to avoid the uber steep learning curve that the aircraft might present (especially the F-14A with it's finicky engines).

 

At least, thats what I was thinking.

 

-Nick

Aye, my thinking exactly (except for the fact that i wasn't thinking straight when typing that - ergo the multiple typos) :lol:

[Colorfulmoose]

I'm in!

Currently I play Arma 3 with Tactical Gaming, but a few of us over there are locked-and-loaded to leave and join a DCS group when the F-14 and/or F/A-18 come out...

 

Also, as far as liveries and names and such go, I'm also all-for the mentality of making our own name.

[pered]

This sounds great guys, the virtual Stingers would happily fly alongside you guys for the occasional joint mission if you wanted.

 

Plus please free to use any of our carrier training stuff to get the ball rolling.

 

The next few months will be spent preparing the squadron. We'll inform when it will open for applications. Thanks for the interest everybody!

 

Pere

[turkeydriver]

We will need to practice sound interceptor tactics, mostly based on defensive and offensive 2 ship maneuvers. Whenever we have a live RIO sitting, they will need to control the flight up to the merge. We'll need to practice who scans high, who scans low. I'm in if we can get this rolling.