33rd_bratpfanne. Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060622143710.html S! Brati "Helicopters can't fly; they're just so ugly the earth repels them." (THX Rich :thumbup: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth_HR Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Reverse HyperThreading. So simple, yet SO effective. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 This is good stuff. Worth waiting for since LockOn is not dual-core ready. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 This is exactly what LockOn needs, when this becomes available i'll be upgrading for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I already suspected that the fuss in the market lately would make an upgrade a bad idea right now. If this technology wroksa as advertized it should blow everything else out of the water. Ill have to wait another year for this though. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewber19 Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Well, I already got an X2 4400 so I'll be updating drivers etc when they're available....I currently use procaff to put LOMAC on one CPU...which still gives me 20-50fps online and 35-50fps offline (I run at 1024x768 cos I use a projector, 2QxAA and 16xAF). I'll be happy with any boosts in performance I can get...and for free ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 487th Helicopter Attack Regiment, of the VVS504 Red Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 And it iwll not work on socket 939? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamocl Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Doesnt mention 939 does it. I know they are stopping production on 939 soon, so I would imagine that the feature will not be on 939, unfortunatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth_HR Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 And it iwll not work on socket 939? Socket 939 was the first platform which supported X2 CPUs - it stands to reason they might give us 2-to-1 support as well. :smilewink: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Real men fly ground attack :pilotfly: where EVERYTHING wants a piece of you :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman G Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Unfortunately this is just rumor with no detail whatsoever how it would work. I will believe it once I see it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TucksonSonny Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060622143710.html S! Brati If this theory works already for 40% then this AMD 4x4 platform will boost up lockon like a rocket. But how about an IBM processor of 1000 Ghz: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/19843.wss :ufo: DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Socket 939 was the first platform which supported X2 CPUs - it stands to reason they might give us 2-to-1 support as well. :smilewink:I hope AMD is not panicking about Core Duo and forgetting about socket 939 customers. Core Duo is good, however, for me to go to Core Duo, I will need new motherboard, memory and CPU. So, AMD could keep me as their customer if Anti Hyper Threading will work on socket 939 dual core processors. If not, I might just go for Intel. I don’t really care for brand name. I look for performance and value. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Any idea when AMD is likely to announce this officially? Intel Conroe is due for release in 2 weeks....... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I don't think they will announce this officially before Conroe comes out. They'll wait and see what Conroe is all about, and then prepare the best marketing strategy for this new technology. We'll have to wait and hope... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice, OC to 2,66 GHz), MSI K8N Neo Platinum (nForce 3 250 Gb), 1,5 GB Corsair PC-3200 RAM, GeForce 7800GS 256 MB VGA (G71, OC to 535/1550 MHz, ForceWare 84.21), 2 x 300 GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 SATA HDD (RAID 0), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 480W Thermaltake PurePower TWV PSU, Win XP SP2, MS SideWinder Precision 2, Belkin Nostromo n52 SpeedPad, HP L1902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qrazi Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I do not believe AMD is actually putting Reverse Hyper Threading in its core logic. The core pictures of socket 939 and am2 just don´t diver enough to contain reverse hyper threading stuff. Besides that, with the current, and actually very quick, move to dual/multiple cores, software developers are already adapting their software to parallel processing. AMD did release a little piece of software to fix some issues that some games have with dual core CPU´s. MSI 870A-G54, AMD Phenom II X2 555 @Phenom II X4 B55 BE, 3.2 GHz quad-core, Asus EAH4870 DK/HTDI/512MD5, OCZ Gold Edition DDR3 1333MHz 4GB Kit Low-Voltage. Budget = Cheap = Good :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman G Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Does anybody know how this magic reverse hyperthreading buzzword works ? I am programmer, 95% of code I write is multithreaded, but I really cannot imagine how two cores can process a single threaded program faster than a single core (apart from some asynchronous stuff - but asynchronous processing is essentially not a single-threaded program) ... I am affraid a lot of people on this thread are putting their faith in a rumor ... I would like to be proven wrong, but I am quite confident that in this case I wont ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TucksonSonny Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Does anybody know how this magic reverse hyperthreading buzzword works ? I am programmer, 95% of code I write is multithreaded, but I really cannot imagine how two cores can process a single threaded program faster than a single core (apart from some asynchronous stuff - but asynchronous processing is essentially not a single-threaded program) ... I am affraid a lot of people on this thread are putting their faith in a rumor ... I would like to be proven wrong, but I am quite confident that in this case I wont ... The AMD trick is rather shutting down core 2 programmatically while overclock the first core. (2 cores can’t run on max OC because of heat) Programmatically core 2 starts up again if necessary and core 1 will run again on a lower OC speed. I don’t know what kind of programs that you write but except for launching a print-job or an export (another thread can do the job while the main program don’t have to wait for this) of data but I can’t see why 1 single business application needs multithreads for. With a game/sim it is another story. 2 multithreaded modules using the same memory without blocking each other is a hard job for the programmer (for example an AI logic module running on 2 threads). DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman G Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I don’t know what kind of programs that you write but except for launching a print-job or an export (another thread can do the job while the main program don’t have to wait for this) of data but I can’t see why 1 single business application needs multithreads for. [/font] Just to enlight you, Sonny, each web server runs many threads (tens of them). Each web request is handled by separate threads. So if you are writing any web applications (which I am not) you in fact need to be aware of threads (unless you are doing something really simple like static pages). Each meaningful web browser runs multiple threads. That way it can download images separately from web page text. Each meaningful database engine is running multiple threads. Otherwise your database query would have to wait until my database query ends. Even simple slideshow viewers run multiple threads. While one thread handles user input and displays images, other threads are prefetching next images so when you hit the "next image" button the already pre-loaded image is displayed instantly. The list goes on and on ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyRomeo Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060714052807.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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