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Yeah the Lancer would be awesome, but an even more iconic plane would be the B52, it's been in service so long its practically a dinosaur among planes and yet it still flies missions today. Additionally I feel that it would be easier to model, also as a result of being in service so long especially some of the older versions.

 

As for the WWII birds, a B17 or B29 would fit the upcoming Normandy map perfectly. You can't miss with either. They would need to include at least one airfield in England though for it to make sense though. Historically I don't think those birds flew from anywhere directly on the continent right?

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I am personally not that huge of a F-16 fan. But if it has to be a Falcon, which I understand is a very popular aircraft, I would like to make the case for the F-16A instead of F-16C. Why would anyone like to have a lesser F-16 if he can have the latest and greatest you ask? For the same reason anyone would like to have a Bf 109 G-6 instead of Bf 109 K-4: The F-16A is a historically significant aircraft. It scored the vast majority of F-16 air-air kills (probably around 80%), it did the Osirak reactor raid and it served as backbone of NATO tactical aviation in Europe during the 1980s.

 

I agree COMPLETELY

We already have the non-nameable three letter word (which i've been enjoying the shit out of sice it was put on gog for $10) for the 15M-52D, I want a more pure experience for DCS at first since, lets face it, someone will just mod the 52D out of the bug and go from there, if someone isn't working on a charlie viper already.

I don't want no pussy-ass lantirn, no 80 mile+ radar, and no slammers. I want a SMS to my left, Radar by my crotch, I want the most sophisticated munition to be the Mav and the 97, I want it as light weight as possible, and I want a ****ing gold leafed canopy.

 

Basically, I want a Block 15 OCU, ADF optional. And you want it too, you just don't know it yet.

 

 

 

 

 

Though a Corsair II would be bitchin'...

 

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While I understand the significance and lasting appeal of the Falcon, I'm one of those who would prefer we get something else from Razbam next.

 

Why has no one attempted a heavy bomber in DCS yet? We are missing a flyable jet in this role in this sim. This is what I would like to see. Something with preferably two or more engines, and something that can bring a lot of ordnance to the party.

 

It would also add another dimension to air to air combat in multiplayer as it would give the upcoming interceptors (like the Mirage) as well as the existing jet planes something to destroy/escort.

 

While I'm certain there will be some people who fill find strat bombers enjoyable, I have some kind of integration or global appeal-ability concern. They have WAAAAAY to big payloads for anything we can come up with in DCS and they, remember, are the opposite of nimble and can't maneuver their way out of trouble. I have a gut feeling (and my gut is more often than not correct) that if a flanker, eagle, or even (in fact particularly) mig driver sees a bogey at way further than they should see, they will assume it's a bomber and immediately go after it, ignoring any sort of escort they may have as one bomber can and will win the match for the entire team and just loosing off every slammer, IR alamo, or adder they can, and rely on their buddies to do the same. Last I checked there isn't enough chaff in the world to spoof 6 adders for such a big target. While it would give the fishbed a new lease on life, the fishbed play their true purpose in life, and it COULD make for incredible air to air engagements, they'd just be focused down to the point that it's basically unplayable in PvP.

 

I'd more prefer an advanced tactical bomber like the Su-24, Su-34, A-6 TRAM, and/or F-111 (Strike Eagle too but we'll have to wait until the multirole framework is in place). They are more familiar to pounders, fighter jocks, and F-B guys like myself which comprise the DCS community as of current, and they still haul vastly superior loads in both explosive mass and number of bombs to anything we have currently. They are more flexible in the kinds of missions they can perform than a big plane like the Tu-22 or B-1, as they are smaller, faster, and more maneuverable, and in the scale and type of combat we see in DCS they'll honestly be more applicable. The big guys are meant to go across continents to bomb the crap out of factories, bridges, dams, cities, you know, strategic targets. We don't have much if any of that, while we have craploads of tank columns, FOBs, and pockets of resistance in cities. And since they'd have a reasonable chance of defending themselves they could prolong air-air engagements of the kind I/we are thinking of, allowing for actual incredible furballs, and since they aren't just slaughter meat, there will be more impetus to protect them since they can survive if you help them out.

 

I kind of wish i could elaborate as much on the Black 15 as i can on this, I want a Block 15 so bad :(


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Strategic Bombers would be of limited use in DCS. For starters, our maps are simply too small. Unless there is a plan to model Europe and base the bombers in England...

 

No...by far the F-16 has the greatest support and utility in DCS World and the kind of missions being flown. Also, if you look at it from a programing point of view, the F-16C shares many features that could be used to model the F-16 such as TGP, Weapons etc. I think the sticking point is ground mapping radar which might be coming soon.

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While I understand the significance and lasting appeal of the Falcon, I'm one of those who would prefer we get something else from Razbam next.

 

Why has no one attempted a heavy bomber in DCS yet? We are missing a flyable jet in this role in this sim. This is what I would like to see. Something with preferably two or more engines, and something that can bring a lot of ordnance to the party.

 

It would also add another dimension to air to air combat in multiplayer as it would give the upcoming interceptors (like the Mirage) as well as the existing jet planes something to destroy/escort.

 

Strategic Bombers would be of limited use in DCS. For starters, our maps are simply too small. Unless there is a plan to model Europe and base the bombers in England...

 

No...by far the F-16 has the greatest support and utility in DCS World and the kind of missions being flown. Also, if you look at it from a programing point of view, the F-16C shares many features that could be used to model the F-16 such as TGP, Weapons etc. I think the sticking point is ground mapping radar which might be coming soon.

 

Block 15 had ground mapping radar, and the OCU in the late 80's just in time for Iraq round 1 added mavericks, which was the 10A's TGP for decades :). Also I just made a case for stuff like the 24, 34, TRAM, and 111 above. I can wait for a F-16C until the end of time. I'd rather have an OCU block 15, less is more. Also it would keep the hog and frog playerbase intact and the unique "each guy does one thing" dynamic we see in DCS now. It would also keep people from getting JDAM lazy and practice proper bombing skills. I could talk for ages on why I'd rather have the early F-16 first, especially since we might not have it after a C module

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I'd more prefer an advanced tactical bomber like the Su-24, Su-34, A-6 TRAM, and/or F-111 (Strike Eagle too but we'll have to wait until the multirole framework is in place).

 

Don't forget we are getting the Viggen. Alhough I'd still like an SU-24.

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Strategic Bombers would be of limited use in DCS. For starters, our maps are simply too small. Unless there is a plan to model Europe and base the bombers in England...

 

No...by far the F-16 has the greatest support and utility in DCS World and the kind of missions being flown. Also, if you look at it from a programing point of view, the F-16C shares many features that could be used to model the F-16 such as TGP, Weapons etc. I think the sticking point is ground mapping radar which might be coming soon.

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Strategic Bombers would be of limited use in DCS. For starters, our maps are simply too small. Unless there is a plan to model Europe and base the bombers in England...

 

No...by far the F-16 has the greatest support and utility in DCS World and the kind of missions being flown. Also, if you look at it from a programing point of view, the F-16C shares many features that could be used to model the F-16 such as TGP, Weapons etc. I think the sticking point is ground mapping radar which might be coming soon.

 

Sure, but personally i have had enough of f-16, f-15 etc.. give me som new exiting planes that we have not played yet! love the mirage, and im really happy leatherneck chose the viggen.

 

I feel like a su-24 or something would not be too useless in dcs, but that's my opinion anyways..

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Sure, but personally i have had enough of f-16, f-15 etc.. give me som new exiting planes that we have not played yet! love the mirage, and im really happy leatherneck chose the viggen.

 

I feel like a su-24 or something would not be too useless in dcs, but that's my opinion anyways..

su-24 is cool, would be the first bomber to make it into DCS, and be playable!

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Bit late but I think we'd be limited to 70s-80s a/c anyway due to secrecy right? Having said that, PLEASE RAZBAM think of something that complements the current list of a/c before you decide to develop another one.

 

Having said that, there's a few a/c I've listed below which I'd love to see which would complement the current a/c lists:

 

WW2

- A6M Zero

- B25

- Beaufighter

- F4U Corsair (works for Korean War as well)

 

Korea

- F4U Corsair (as above)

- Douglas B26

- Lockheed F-80C Shooting Star

 

Vietnam

- F4 Phantom II

- A4 Skyhawk

- A6 Intruder

- F105 (esp this bird...does A2G and SEAD)

 

Gulf War I

- F111 Aardvark

- SEPECAT Jaguar (RAF, France)

- F16 (yes please - I reckon this would have the most success esp due to BMS)

- F15E

- Tornado

- F117 (probably too Top Secret)

- FA/18 (being done by ED)

 

I know there's a lot of suggestions and a/c to choose from however my main suggestion is that it COMPLEMENTS what we have, and not establishes a new 'vein' so to speak.

 

However if I had one choice, it would be a General Dynamics F-16 Falcon. This bird does:

 

- A2A

- A2G

- SEAD (we need a dedicated SEAD a/c to complement current a/c)


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Bit late but I think we'd be limited to 70s-80s a/c anyway due to secrecy right? Having said that, PLEASE RAZBAM think of something that complements the current list of a/c before you decide to develop another one.

 

Having said that, there's a few a/c I've listed below which I'd love to see which would complement the current a/c lists:

 

WW2

- A6M Zero

- B25

- Beaufighter

- F4U Corsair (works for Korean War as well)

 

Korea

- F4U Corsair (as above)

- Douglas B26

- Lockheed F-80C Shooting Star

 

Vietnam

- F4 Phantom II

- A4 Skyhawk

- A6 Intruder

- F105 (esp this bird...does A2G and SEAD)

 

Gulf War I

- F111 Aardvark

- SEPECAT Jaguar (RAF, France)

- F16 (yes please - I reckon this would have the most success esp due to BMS)

- F15E

- Tornado

- F117 (probably too Top Secret)

- FA/18 (being done by ED)

 

I know there's a lot of suggestions and a/c to choose from however my main suggestion is that it COMPLEMENTS what we have, and not establishes a new 'vein' so to speak.

 

However if I had one choice, it would be a General Dynamics F-16 Falcon. This bird does:

 

- A2A

- A2G

- SEAD (we need a dedicated SEAD a/c to complement current a/c)

 

 

Good point on the SEAD. I did see a quote somewhere by a Falcon Pilot who performed SEAD Missions saying that he wasn't sure if the missiles eliminated a SAM Site or an Iraqi on a cell phone. It'd be cool to have access to a plane that employs the HARM though. However, I think the F-18 can employ it also. In fact I think there is some record of them deploying 20 of them in a Libya raid.

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