emg Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I wonder if it really is popular though. I'm not sure I'd even heard of it prior to the giant speculation thread. It quickly became clear to me and many others that it was the most likely "modern" plane, but that isn't the same as being highly desired. I could go either way on it tbh. The plane itself is a footnote in military aviation, but it might be fun on 104th regardless. We heard you people the first time around, and we don't really need to see 100 of these badly disguised posts saying "why you make swedish plane, please make my favorite famous plane instead." Edited December 7, 2015 by emg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisse Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Swedes are going to buy it, thats for sure. As for the rest, I think the same thing that happened to the MiG-21bis will happen to the Viggen. I remember seeing a lot of posts on the forum on how boring the MiG-21bis was going (ignorance?) to be, but when people got to try it they fell in love :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 We heard you people the first time around, and we don't really need to see 100 of these badly disguised posts saying "stop making swedish plane, make my favorite famous plane instead." At this point, Leatherneck's performance with Fishbed might off set how obscure something is. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emg Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) At this point, Leatherneck's performance with Fishbed might off set how obscure something is. Business wise, even the C-101 sold well enough that Aviodev decided to start on the Mirage F1. Its external model and cockpit quality is top notch, and I guess it shows the community is open to less known planes from new developers - when the quality is that high. Edited December 7, 2015 by emg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solty Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Watch it be Harrier and people flipping their tables saying "I knew it" even though they scream Vigen!! :3 Speculation heh :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VEPR 12 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Im gonna repost something i posted in the Speculation Thread. Its the IRL Armament Options for the AJS-37 and what pylons can use what. Ofc we have to wait and see wich of these things we will get. Thanks for reposting! excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VEPR 12 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 So that's how the Viggen has grown so popular amongst westerners? You got it. ;) So we can get this skin!? YESSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlander Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I for once, like that we are getting some less familiar planes. Id be less hyped about a new f-16, f-15 etc.. They are just too common, you hear about them every single day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VEPR 12 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 I for once, like that we are getting some less familiar planes. Id be less hyped about a new f-16, f-15 etc.. They are just too common, you hear about them every single day.. Agree! I am very excited for this unique and awesome machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Breeze Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It's an impressive feat. Simple enough. I do, however, worry that we won't be able to utilize that capability with the Viggen to its fullest And, this is something out of LNS' hands, I'd imagine. DCS Ground handling is pretty naff at times and we, currently, can't start on a highway. I'm hoping this is changed or any Scandinavian map that is included with the Viggen (if it's included in the plan of releasing a theatre with aircraft) has some form of workaround for this. Being able to operate from a highway would be so great. I'm with you on this Fishbed! I wonder if the map we are waiting for the Viggen is coming with the Tomcat. The clues leaded me to a north sea map, parts of Scandinavia with the Baltic Sea. I have another wishlist aircraft that would greatly benefit from highway landing strips and forward operating bases! Since the AJS is mainly a mud fighter, mixing it up with fighters is going to get fun with only heat-seekers.:thumbup: "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OziRekt Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Is it true the AJS radar has some sort of air-to-air capability? Wikipedia seems to think so. "We carried out many trials to try to find the answer to the fast, low-level intruder, but there is no adequate defense." — Air Vice-Marshal J. E. 'Johnnie' Johnson, RAF Can't charge us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayo2017 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm with you on this Fishbed! I wonder if the map we are waiting for the Viggen is coming with the Tomcat. The clues leaded me to a north sea map, parts of Scandinavia with the Baltic Sea. I have another wishlist aircraft that would greatly benefit from highway landing strips and forward operating bases! Since the AJS is mainly a mud fighter, mixing it up with fighters is going to get fun with only heat-seekers.:thumbup: The possibility of a Viggen (which I love in its own right) leading to the possibility of a Baltic Sea map made me scream internally in sheer excitement at the mere idea. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 So glimit is 7G? i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cletust8 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 When I was little it was a die cast metal Viggen that started my interest in aviation. I cant wait to get my hands on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 "RING RAIDERS" rofl I too am excited about the Viggen I made a scale model of one as a boy, fortunately not the, ah.....ring raider. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Viggen is love Viggen is life Viggen is eternal Viggen is--wait what Stop it, Rutan. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamscanner Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I already have a 2001 SAAB 9-3 Viggen.. But now I feel obligated to buy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skjold Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm very happy, my favourite plane of all time will be made for DCS. I saw it in the skies all the time growing up, so i am ofcourse biased but read below if you're unsure about it. I really do think that even if the plane is an obscure, unknown plane for most people it will grow in popularity as they realise it's a quite neat airframe with some neat capabilities. Especially if the BK-90 is included, but thats ofcourse a big if. Reasons? It's bound to be the first in DCS in all these areas. First dedicated supersonic strike aircraft. First supersonic maverick user. First aircraft with ground mapping radar. First aircraft with anti-ship missile capability. First aircraft with stand-off weaponry, if BK-90 is included. First aircraft with STOL capability. "Fast & Low" design philosophy, built to perform well on low altitude. Also it is a proper enemy for the MiG-21Bis, they flew in the same areas during the same eras intercepting eachother a lot! The Baltic Sea during the cold war was an extremly active intercept zone. It also has similar air-to-air capabilities to it despite being an strike aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknetinium Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I'm very happy, my favourite plane of all time will be made for DCS. I saw it in the skies all the time growing up, so i am ofcourse biased but read below if you're unsure about it. I really do think that even if the plane is an obscure, unknown plane for most people it will grow in popularity as they realise it's a quite neat airframe with some neat capabilities. Especially if the BK-90 is included, but thats ofcourse a big if. Reasons? It's bound to be the first in DCS in all these areas. First dedicated supersonic strike aircraft. First supersonic maverick user. First aircraft with ground mapping radar. First aircraft with anti-ship missile capability. First aircraft with stand-off weaponry, if BK-90 is included. First aircraft with STOL capability. "Fast & Low" design philosophy, built to perform well on low altitude. Also it is a proper enemy for the MiG-21Bis, they flew in the same areas during the same eras intercepting eachother a lot! The Baltic Sea during the cold war was an extremly active intercept zone. It also has similar air-to-air capabilities to it despite being an strike aircraft. the proper enemy is Mig-23 an Mig-27. But Im sure there were situations where Mig-21 Bis was involved. Great news, cant wait to get my hands on this lovely aircraft. Would like the Fighter version as well. Lets hope leatherneck dose two versions as for the F-14, I would not mind if you had to pay for different version. Edited December 7, 2015 by Teknetinium 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skjold Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) the proper enemy is Mig-23 an Mig-27. But Im sure there were situations where Mig-21 Bis was involved I would agree that the MiG-23 is just as good an enemy as the MiG-21Bis, but i'm going off the fact that alot of bases in present day Baltic States, Kalinigrad, E. Germany and Poland used MiG-21Bis and other MiG-21 airframes like MiG-21PFM in the timeframe where the AJ 37, SH 37 and JA 37 were in service. In pure capability i'd say the JA 37 and the MiG-23 is the perfect match, MiG-23 would have an advantage over an AJ or SH 37. Just in pure encountering chance, Viggen pilots were much more likely to see a MiG-21 then a MiG-23 over the Baltic. :pilotfly: Edited December 7, 2015 by Skjold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Breeze Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Sorry couldn't resist! Ring Raiders "Ring of Fire" part 1 [ame] [/ame] Ring Raiders "Ring of Fire" part 2 [ame] [/ame] Ring Raiders Commercial [ame] [/ame] "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I'm very happy, my favourite plane of all time will be made for DCS. I saw it in the skies all the time growing up, so i am ofcourse biased but read below if you're unsure about it. • First dedicated supersonic strike aircraft. First supersonic maverick user. First aircraft with ground mapping radar. First aircraft with anti-ship missile capability. First aircraft with stand-off weaponry, if BK-90 is included. First aircraft with STOL capability. "Fast & Low" design philosophy, built to perform well on low altitude. +1000 :thumbup: I'm so glad we are getting the Viggen, it's a dream come true ;) Can't wait to get my hands on it! Edited December 7, 2015 by CoBlue i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomOnSteam Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Any kind of SEAD capability? or is the Viggen mostly designed for anti-ship? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahlbeck Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Nope. It's anti-ship and old school dumb bomb and rockets ground attack. Plus Maverick. That said, it's no CAS aircraft. That wasn't really a task for the Swedish Airforce back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipp Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 What free map is coming with Viggen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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