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Didnt knew that there was a such technical book available, :thumbup:

 

 

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May i ask where you got it from?

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I'd be more impressed if they had screenshots of code to be honest alongside this. A 3D texture can do little without the code behind it, and there specifically is the problem. Whilst its a lovely wallpaper, it is just that, a wallpaper without the coding resource behind it.

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Given that it will not have any kind of AI WSO and that you can't fly combat without a WSO, I don't plan on buying it. I would be okay with no AI if there are shortcuts that I can trigger from the front seat to perform critical WSO tasks. But if I have to put the aircraft on autopilot and switch to the backseat or have to play in multiplayer and find a WSO, then there is no way I will fly this aircraft very often and therefore can't justify buying it.

 

The Jester AI in the F-14B may not be perfect, but I have been able to operate the aircraft successfully in combat with the AI responding to my voice commands using VAICOM Pro. It is immersive until VAICOM fails to recognize a command or the AI proves to be an incompetent radar operator. But overall, I enjoy flying the F-14B from the front seat despite having to rely on AI and voice recognition. If the F-14B didn't have Jester, it would be very difficult to use it effectively in single player. I flew the F-14B in multiplayer for weeks. Never once had a RIO or anyone ask to be my RIO. So, it would have been equally useless there without Jester.

 

If you want my money and you choose to produce a 2-seat aircraft, there better be an effective way to employ the aircraft without another person being in the 2nd seat.

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Given that it will not have any kind of AI WSO and that you can't fly combat without a WSO, I don't plan on buying it. I would be okay with no AI if there are shortcuts that I can trigger from the front seat to perform critical WSO tasks. But if I have to put the aircraft on autopilot and switch to the backseat or have to play in multiplayer and find a WSO, then there is no way I will fly this aircraft very often and therefore can't justify buying it.

 

The Jester AI in the F-14B may not be perfect, but I have been able to operate the aircraft successfully in combat with the AI responding to my voice commands using VAICOM Pro. It is immersive until VAICOM fails to recognize a command or the AI proves to be an incompetent radar operator. But overall, I enjoy flying the F-14B from the front seat despite having to rely on AI and voice recognition. If the F-14B didn't have Jester, it would be very difficult to use it effectively in single player. I flew the F-14B in multiplayer for weeks. Never once had a RIO or anyone ask to be my RIO. So, it would have been equally useless there without Jester.

 

If you want my money and you choose to produce a 2-seat aircraft, there better be an effective way to employ the aircraft without another person being in the 2nd seat.

 

You can fly combat perfectly fine without a WSO, I'm sure they'll implement a way around the 3 switches that the WSO exclusively has. The F-15E is not the F-14 both crewmembers can operate all the systems and the WSO has flight controls even, so I don't quite get what the problem would be to fly solo from the front cockpit.


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You can fly combat perfectly fine without a WSO, I'm sure they'll implement a way around the 3 switches that the WSO exclusively has. The F-15E is not the F-14 both crewmembers can operate all the systems and the WSO has flight controls even, so I don't quite get what the problem would be to fly solo from the front cockpit.

 

 

100% and with how well (or not well) Jester works, I'd rather not have their dev efforts put into an AI. I'd rather they fully focus on the module itself.

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I honestly can't understand all the hype given the near-VEAO state of their Harrier...

If anything this will be yet another forum section filled with bug reports falling on deaf ears :(

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I honestly can't understand all the hype given the near-VEAO state of their Harrier...

If anything this will be yet another forum section filled with bug reports falling on deaf ears :(

 

 

 

Strange...their Harrier seems in pretty good state right now..

Yes it still has some issues, but comparing it to VEAO modules seems pretty unfair to me.

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I honestly can't understand all the hype given the near-VEAO state of their Harrier...

If anything this will be yet another forum section filled with bug reports falling on deaf ears :(

You still playing the 2018 version of DCS? My Harrier is in a way more complete state than what you are describing, it is closer to the Hornet in level of functionality

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Given that it will not have any kind of AI WSO and that you can't fly combat without a WSO, I don't plan on buying it. I would be okay with no AI if there are shortcuts that I can trigger from the front seat to perform critical WSO tasks. But if I have to put the aircraft on autopilot and switch to the backseat or have to play in multiplayer and find a WSO, then there is no way I will fly this aircraft very often and therefore can't justify buying it.

 

The Jester AI in the F-14B may not be perfect, but I have been able to operate the aircraft successfully in combat with the AI responding to my voice commands using VAICOM Pro. It is immersive until VAICOM fails to recognize a command or the AI proves to be an incompetent radar operator. But overall, I enjoy flying the F-14B from the front seat despite having to rely on AI and voice recognition. If the F-14B didn't have Jester, it would be very difficult to use it effectively in single player. I flew the F-14B in multiplayer for weeks. Never once had a RIO or anyone ask to be my RIO. So, it would have been equally useless there without Jester.

 

If you want my money and you choose to produce a 2-seat aircraft, there better be an effective way to employ the aircraft without another person being in the 2nd seat.

 

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I would still love to have a rudimentary Backseat AI even if everything can be done from the front seat. For example to call out missile launches and position of bogey in a dogfight. Will make it feel like it’s a two person plane even if there is no one there.

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Well I hope it's the F-15E right after the Mirage :)

 

It's a lot more versatile that a tadpole looking A-6 haha

 

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I would still love to have a rudimentary Backseat AI even if everything can be done from the front seat. For example to call out missile launches and position of bogey in a dogfight. Will make it feel like it’s a two person plane even if there is no one there.

 

I dont want to sound harsh to devs. but after the F14 and jester, any AI plane with 2 seats, whether hind or F15E... If theres no AI its a no go for me and I suspect A LOT of ppl now. theres no going back

in hindsight it was insane to expect players to jump between seats *IN COMBAT* to begin with

an F15E without a WSO is almost insane and Id expect a jester level AI *AT LEAST* same with the hind.

Yes its fun to shoot, not so much when youre being shot at and need to hop seats etc.

nothings stopping you from doing it, but a lot of us would like an AI that can do basic sh*T while we fly or handle whatever.

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after launch, 5 years to complete.

 

 

This team is not comparable in size and budget to what a company like Microsoft can allocate to a similar task.

 

So, in view of the amount of work needed to get where they are, 5 years doesn't look too bad...

 

 

 

 

I dont want to sound harsh to devs. but after the F14 and jester, any AI plane with 2 seats, whether hind or F15E... If theres no AI its a no go for me and I suspect A LOT of ppl now. theres no going back

in hindsight it was insane to expect players to jump between seats *IN COMBAT* to begin with

an F15E without a WSO is almost insane and Id expect a jester level AI *AT LEAST* same with the hind.

Yes its fun to shoot, not so much when youre being shot at and need to hop seats etc.

nothings stopping you from doing it, but a lot of us would like an AI that can do basic sh*T while we fly or handle whatever.

 

People should consider getting Voice Attack to simplify task, even more so in the case of a two seater...

 

 

 

https://voiceattack.com/

 

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I dont want to sound harsh to devs. but after the F14 and jester, any AI plane with 2 seats, whether hind or F15E... If theres no AI its a no go for me and I suspect A LOT of ppl now. theres no going back

in hindsight it was insane to expect players to jump between seats *IN COMBAT* to begin with

an F15E without a WSO is almost insane and Id expect a jester level AI *AT LEAST* same with the hind.

Yes its fun to shoot, not so much when youre being shot at and need to hop seats etc.

nothings stopping you from doing it, but a lot of us would like an AI that can do basic sh*T while we fly or handle whatever.

 

Why? Because the F-16 and every other single seat fighter is impossible to fly without a second guy in it? You need to jump seats because you are being shot at? Why? Your thoughts seem completely unfounded from a reality standpoint.

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