AV-8B Harrier Thread

[NeilWillis]

And you still haven't seen the SP content.

 

Yeah, making single player missions is SOOOO hard! Unless RAZBAM do it no one else could possibly write a single player mission for themselves could they! :music_whistling:

[QuiGon]

Our plans are for an early access by Q1 2017

Sometimes (as with the M2000C) we don't show it all until we have to..

As for gauges not working and the lack of a HUD, we are currently squashing bugs in the M2000C, but we got all the info ready, in fact, i'm pretty sure the cockpit will be ready before the external shape actually is!

 

:shocking:

 

Well, looks like I really underestimated you guys. :music_whistling:

Hats off to your awesome work! :thumbup:

 

Was still worth it, because now we have a date :D

(And yes, I'm aware that this is no guarantee and can change of course :))

Edited November 25, 2016 by QuiGon

[zerO_crash]

Yeah, making single player missions is SOOOO hard! Unless RAZBAM do it no one else could possibly write a single player mission for themselves could they! :music_whistling:

 

Or fly in a coordinated clan/multiplayer setting :music_whistling: ;)

[hughesj2]

RAZBAM Team,

Some fantastic looking progress shots so far, can't wait for this one, especially as I'm loving the M2C much more than I thought I would.

Any word on how the DCS flight model is coping with the V/STOL challenges with the Harrier vs FSX? The short videos you posted looked good from what I could see so I'm hoping it's going to be pretty accurate?

Cheers

James

[Gliptal]

Yeah, making single player missions is SOOOO hard! Unless RAZBAM do it no one else could possibly write a single player mission for themselves could they! :music_whistling:

 

Or fly in a coordinated clan/multiplayer setting :music_whistling: ;)

Because everyone has flawless internet connections, access to a dozen of voice actors, a number of beta testers, hundreds of hours to put in creating a working campaign, training missions, and documentation.

 

Look at all the SP content and campaigns modules like the F-5E and the MiG-21 have. Oh wait, they don't or they don't work. This is not to say those are great modules, it's just that RAZBAM is the first one that is releasing a module with a good SP component behind it, instead of relying on the community to create content. But I guess that's beneath you.

 

Ok.

Edited November 25, 2016 by Gliptal

[zerO_crash]

Because everyone has flawless internet connections, access to a dozen of voice actors, a number of beta testers, hundreds of hours to put in creating a working campaign, training missions, and documentation.

 

Look at all the SP content and campaigns modules like the F-5E and the MiG-21 have. Oh wait, they don't or they don't work. This is not to say those are great modules, it's just that RAZBAM is the first one that is releasing a module with a good SP component behind it, instead of relying on the community to create content. But I guess that's beneath you.

 

Ok.

 

Completely wrong mate, on every level. MiG-21Bis campaign has worked for me upon release, and when I flew it last time somewhere in early 2016. Worked like a charm. (Not sure why you are having problems, report it?). In addition to the standard campaign that came with the module, you also got the pretty good one Guardians of Caucasus.

 

F-5E i haven`t flown, but then it`s got released just recently, give them time.

 

As for missions overall, well, if you cannot create, don`t want to download other`s mission, or can`t do MP (some better servers), then well, what can you do? You are kind of locking yourself away. Sorry mate, nothing I can do about. Change your attitude, and things will work out.

[Einherjer]

I don't think we will see much free sp missions for the new planes in the future ... there will be more maps and so more possibilities. And you can make some money with selling a good campaign as dlc (I think this is fair , it speeds up releasing schedules for planes and gives some creative mission makers a chance )

 

What we will see are bundles of plane+map+campaign like it was done with the A-10c+NTTR+red flag, or what leatherneck plans to do.

 

But enough of it - this thread is about the Tool not the job ;)

[Gliptal]

Completely wrong mate, on every level. MiG-21Bis campaign has worked for me upon release, and when I flew it last time somewhere in early 2016. Worked like a charm. (Not sure why you are having problems, report it?). In addition to the standard campaign that came with the module, you also got the pretty good one Guardians of Caucasus.

 

F-5E i haven`t flown, but then it`s got released just recently, give them time.

 

As for missions overall, well, if you cannot create, don`t want to download other`s mission, or can`t do MP (some better servers), then well, what can you do? You are kind of locking yourself away. Sorry mate, nothing I can do about. Change your attitude, and things will work out.

Well I'm sorry about the MiG-21, last time I checked it wasn't working.

 

What I meant is that the campaign is very good and immediately caters to SP players, instead of pushing the module with future plans of adding campaigns, or waiting for the community to create content.

 

Besides, the amount of work required to create good 10+ missions long, fully voiced and documented campaigns isn't approachable by normal users, not if you want it coming free with the module itself. Most high-production value campaigns are additional payed DLCs.

 

If you're content in MP and single unrelated SP missions fine, but the fact that RAZBAM is coming out of the box with such content shouldn't be understated. And again, not "everyone" can create high-quality missions, let alone entire campaigns, unless your idea of a high-quality mission is throwing a bunch of air units and spawning the player in an airport with no guidance or story.

 

Different views, but you not being interested in well done out of the box officially supported SP does not make it irrelevant in the purchase decisions of others.

[zerO_crash]

Well I'm sorry about the MiG-21, last time I checked it wasn't working.

 

What I meant is that the campaign is very good and immediately caters to SP players, instead of pushing the module with future plans of adding campaigns, or waiting for the community to create content.

 

Besides, the amount of work required to create good 10+ missions long, fully voiced and documented campaigns isn't approachable by normal users, not if you want it coming free with the module itself. Most high-production value campaigns are additional payed DLCs.

 

If you're content in MP and single unrelated SP missions fine, but the fact that RAZBAM is coming out of the box with such content shouldn't be understated. And again, not "everyone" can create high-quality missions, let alone entire campaigns, unless your idea of a high-quality mission is throwing a bunch of air units and spawning the player in an airport with no guidance or story.

 

Different views, but you not being interested in well done out of the box officially supported SP does not make it irrelevant in the purchase decisions of others.

 

Where did I exactly state that I`m not interested in dev-made SP campaigns?

 

I mentioned what options you had, among which was creating missions. Pointless if you are alone, as creating a mission makes you so acquainted with it that you`ll know it before you even take off. If you want missions on a basic level, use the random mission generator. Simple, and little briefing, but grants random events, as well as opposition. Those you don`t have to create yourself, and it`s simple and fast.

 

As for the rest, it`s just how sims are made. You cannot make big missions by yourself in 5 minutes. There really is not much to do about. There is a possibility of a random Campaign generator (like BMS has), but reality is here and now. And as of know, I already told you what options you got. Like it or not, doesn`t change anything.

 

I`m out. Have fun

[Gliptal]

I'm probably not explaining myself correctly, I apologize for that.

[BIGNEWY]

lets put this back on topic

 

" AV-8B Harrier Thread "

 

thanks

[Spacehamster]

razbam uploaded new screenshots of cockpit at facebook again.

it looks nice... i decided to buy it ASAP.

 

 

but... his all instruments is not working.

it is evidence that development AV-8B will take many time. :(

 

 

 

That is not good enough. Substandard compared to fully priced ED products. Look at the canopy parts. I can count the polies on the cylinder. this has to be WAY rounder. Look at the F86 for example how it is done correctly.f

[myHelljumper]

I will say 3 things :

1. have you ever been happy of something ?

2. Do you know that is a 1st render in the sim of the cockpit and that it is subject to change and it will surely change ?

3. Are you just trolling ?

[Spacehamster]

If they sell something for 60$ they got to deliver something far better

[myHelljumper]

I'm sure they will, as I said this screenshot is the FIRST integration of the model in the game, it's subject to change.

 

You don't have to be that harsh with the devs, they have feelings you know....

[razo+r]

If they sell something for 60$ they got to deliver something far better

 

Wait, who said anything of the price? Source?

[myHelljumper]

He comes from space, he know things :lol:

[BIGNEWY]

Some people can be over critical about w.i.p images, I try to ignore them as best I can and focus on the positive and the great work being done.

 

I am looking forward to the harrier, it will be one of my most used modules when released :)

[joey45]

 

I am looking forward to the harrier, it will be one of my most used modules when released :)

 

Yup...:thumbup:

[Raven68]

Some people can be over critical about w.i.p images, I try to ignore them as best I can and focus on the positive and the great work being done.

 

Some people don't know what W.I.P. means...

[Britchot]

With this coming out, has anyone heard of an AI KC-130 being added to DCS anywhere?

[BIGNEWY]

Topic is AV-8B Harrier Thread

 

stick to it

[Spacehamster]

Why did you delete my whole post? Half of it was about the Harrier. My point still stands, that cockpit is a low-poly mess not worthy of the DCS standard or its price tag.

[BIGNEWY]

Why did you delete my whole post? Half of it was about the Harrier.

 

That is why, and I sent you a PM if you wish to discuss it please reply to my PM not here

 

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[jmijnen]

Hope they simulate the coolant tank supply which allows you to hover without the pegasus borking up :)