agentkgb Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hi, As the title says, tested on the ground and in the air. If two Mig-21 planes are in a close proximity (within around 10 meters or closer), the fps drops a huge amount. With my specs (i5-3550/16GB/NV970) the fps drops from a stable 80-110 to 5-10 fps. As the two planes are moving away and the distance increases the fps comes back. Thanks, - KGB - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarres Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Same here. 5 mig-21 in ramp at Groom Lake. FPS drops to 5-7. FPS at their normal values (60 locked) when distance augment to +100 meters (maybe middle distance LOD?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunski34 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 same for me Yes, same problem when 2 mig 21b closed to each other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kurr Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Same problem here, albeit a bit more extreme. With two MiG-21s sitting on the tarmac at Nellis, I went from 40 FPS to roughly 40 SPF (Seconds Per Frame). When the other MiG-21 despawned (player chose another aircraft) the frame rate slowly went up again, and after a minute or two was back to 40 FPS. Dutch Flanker Display Team | LLTM 2010 Tiger Spirit Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) This one is going to be difficult to replicate and investigate I think. I just did a few test flights - two MiGs (me and AI), generic Polish AF skins, air start 5000 m over southern part of the map, a couple of km away. With icons on (for distance measurement) and off, model enlargement to "medium" and off I was closing in on my wingman, down to single digit numbers, monitoring fps all the time. Never got below 50-few. My specs are: i5 4670 OC'ed do 4.2, a single GTX780 (359.00 drivers), 8 gigs of RAM, Win 7x64. In-game gfx settings mostly on high with object shadows on medium, terrain shadows flat and somewhat medium preload radius, trees and clutter. Edit: my mission below. Try it out and see what performance you get on Your PC. Also, why not posting your missions, so I can test it on my PC.MiGx2.miz Edited December 29, 2015 by Art-J Adding attachment. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtWorm Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This one is going to be difficult to replicate and investigate I think. I just did a few test flights - two MiGs (me and AI), generic Polish AF skins, air start 5000 m over southern part of the map, a couple of km away. With icons on (for distance measurement) and off, model enlargement to "medium" and off I was closing in on my wingman, down to single digit numbers, monitoring fps all the time. Never got below 50-few. My specs are: i5 4670 OC'ed do 4.2, a single GTX780 (359.00 drivers), 8 gigs of RAM, Win 7x64. In-game gfx settings mostly on high with object shadows on medium, terrain shadows flat and somewhat medium preload radius, trees and clutter. Edit: my mission below. Try it out and see what performance you get on Your PC. Also, why not posting your missions, so I can test it on my PC. Did you try you and a friend in multiplayer? I found it always happens then but could not replicate with with AI. Is it trying to render the other cockpit in multi? I flew with a mate for a couple of hours last night happened all the time. So we just stayed 2 plane lengths away from each other on the ground and all was fine. If we came any closer massive fps drop as others observe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Cannot confirm, as I'm offline player only. Looks like it's online-related problem then. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't have such drastic performance drop, but flying close formation with the AI MiG causes the FPS to drop from solid 60 (enforced by vsync) to 30-40. i5 4460, GTX970, 16GB, SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbysieger Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Same Problem here. I get a slideshow in 2.0.1 if there is another MiG-21Bis in close proximity to me. CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | Mobo: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro | RAM: 64GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill TridentZ | GPU: Palit RTX3080 Ti 12GB | SSDs: 2xSabrent Rocket 1TB M.2 | Samsung Pro 256GB | Samsung EVO 850 500GB | Samsung QVO 1TB Peripherals: Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | MFG Crosswinds | 3xTM Cougar MFDs | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook47 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 You got to be kidding me.... well this is wonderful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upupandaway Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Can confirm this problem for MP. As soon as a MiG-21 spawned next to me on the server, I went from stable FPS to a still image and DCS crashed yout 30sec later. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Its present both on SP and MP. Massive frame drop in DCS 2.0.1 with more than one Mig-21. In my case from 60 FPS to 25 with only one Mig-21 by my side. In the initial DCS 2.0 Nevada release this drop never existed. Edited February 7, 2016 by Esac_mirmidon " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarres Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Reported in the bugtracker. https://leatherneck-sim.mantishub.com/m/issue_page.php?id=35 It seems that it is not possible to fix it. They recommend lower the graphical settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Weird. This is only related to the Mig-21. And only with recent updates. With the initial Nevada version no drop at all. With any other plane i dont have such massive frame drop. And i´m trying with shadows OFF and flat shadows on. Same drop. The most strange thing is that the drop isn´t related to looking directly at the Fishbed, is like a bubble effect all around. You can look at the opposite direction and the drop is still there. Edited February 7, 2016 by Esac_mirmidon " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook47 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Reported in the bugtracker. https://leatherneck-sim.mantishub.com/m/issue_page.php?id=35 It seems that it is not possible to fix it. They recommend lower the graphical settings WHAT? :doh: If it isn't possible to fix it, how have I not had the issue in prior versions? LNS please be Jonny on the spot with getting this corrected. I can live with waiting years for the SPS 141 to get fixed I guess, but this is going to make it impossible for myself and friends to fly this plane together and probably get it yanked from servers (again) Edited February 7, 2016 by Hook47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) WHAT? :doh: If it isn't possible to fix it, how have I not had the issue in prior versions? LNS please be Jonny on the spot with getting this corrected. I can live with waiting years for the SPS 141 to get fixed I guess, but this is going to make it impossible for myself and friends to fly this plane together and probably get it yanked from servers (again) Right now the cause is unknown. We will know more with time. Edited February 7, 2016 by Cobra847 Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Weird. This is only related to the Mig-21. And only with recent updates. With the initial Nevada version no drop at all. With any other plane i dont have such massive frame drop. And i´m trying with shadows OFF and flat shadows on. Same drop. The most strange thing is that the drop isn´t related to looking directly at the Fishbed, is like a bubble effect all around. You can look at the opposite direction and the drop is still there. Thanks for the detail. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Your welcome Cobra. Thanks for taking time with this issue. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook47 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Right now the cause is unknown. We will know more with time. I figured that must be the case, the other guys remark about it "not bring fixable" had me reeling... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 +1 found it. Very odd. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 It seems now with the latest 2.0.1 update the issue is less dramatic. Before i went from 60 playing alone to 30 FPS with other Mig-21 next to me. Now i´m around 45 when another near me and when he moves around 50 meters ahead i recover my 60 solid FPS. Taking in count that in 1.5.3 i have around 50 with another Mig-21 next to me it´s almost the same right now except that in 1.5.3 i have FPS drop ONLY when i´m looking at the other MIg-21. In 2.0.1 the drop is all around, no matter where i´m looking. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para_Bellum Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 We just did a training flight and, having not flown the Mig-21 on the NTTR map for some time, encountered this problem for the 1st time: in cockpit view in a single Mig: 80 FPS. Another player joins in a Mig next to mine, FPS drop to 20s, for him even lower (single digits). Win10, core i5 2500k@4GHz, 16 Gig RAM, GTX 760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitabutch Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 WHAT? :doh: If it isn't possible to fix it, how have I not had the issue in prior versions? It has been with Mig for ages. When Migs are close to each other you will get a massive fps drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 It´s fixed for me in the last 2.0 update. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuba Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) It happens to us in the current update, in Vegas. Not so much in Caucasus. Edited June 19, 2017 by Juuba Sometimes I Amaze even Myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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