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[shagrat]

Exactly. We need ED to model the 29A and S to face mirage and F18 for example.

 

Mirage is great fun but no real opponent.

 

I stop here. Don't want to hijack the thread

Jepp, going of topic here. Though the M2000C and F-14 vs. 70ies MiG-29 and MiG-21bis sounds promising...

Edited May 27, 2016 by shagrat
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[mattebubben]

I dont really understand why so many ppl complain about the Mirage 2000s performance in MP...

 

I actually do very well with it against the FC3 fighters.

 

I avg at least 2 kills a sortie and my KD is usually around 3-1.

 

The Mirage is very deadly up close and so if you get to the merge the enemy will be in a world of hurt.

 

Sure its not perfect but even in the state it is today you can take on any Fighter in the game.

 

You just have to do it on your terms.

 

You cant just do a Head-on attack from 40 miles out at 20k+ Feet and expect to win against a F-15 etc.

 

Personally i use alot of terrain to get close and i try to sneak up on ppl or engage someone who is focused on something else.

 

If a enemy fighter goes head on with me i generally turn to make him chase then use terrain to pop up on him when he does not expect it.

 

If a enemy fighter is not engaging you push but if he is try to use terrain to get the edge on him instead of attempting a head on slugging match that you are unlikely to win against a enemy that has more missiles.

 

When flying an aircraft you need to adapt you tactics to that aircraft.

 

You cant fly all fighters the same and expect good results.

 

And if you use the Mirages strengths you will do good.

 

And you will do even better once all the problems get ironed out.

(as they are being fixed at a very rapid pace)

[TomCatMucDe]

I dont really understand why so many ppl complain about the Mirage 2000s performance in MP...

 

I actually do very well with it against the FC3 fighters.

 

I avg at least 2 kills a sortie and my KD is usually around 3-1.

 

The Mirage is very deadly up close and so if you get to the merge the enemy will be in a world of hurt.

 

Sure its not perfect but even in the state it is today you can take on any Fighter in the game.

 

You just have to do it on your terms.

 

You cant just do a Head-on attack from 40 miles out at 20k+ Feet and expect to win against a F-15 etc.

 

Personally i use alot of terrain to get close and i try to sneak up on ppl or engage someone who is focused on something else.

 

If a enemy fighter goes head on with me i generally turn to make him chase then use terrain to pop up on him when he does not expect it.

 

If a enemy fighter is not engaging you push but if he is try to use terrain to get the edge on him instead of attempting a head on slugging match that you are unlikely to win against a enemy that has more missiles.

 

When flying an aircraft you need to adapt you tactics to that aircraft.

 

You cant fly all fighters the same and expect good results.

 

And if you use the Mirages strengths you will do good.

 

And you will do even better once all the problems get ironed out.

(as they are being fixed at a very rapid pace)

 

 

 

I got 5 kills today in Blueflag 2 against Eagles, 1 Huey and 2 mirages. Got shot only once by a SAM and I was idiot about it.

[shagrat]

I dont really understand why so many ppl complain about the Mirage 2000s performance in MP...

 

I actually do very well with it against the FC3 fighters.

 

I avg at least 2 kills a sortie and my KD is usually around 3-1.

 

The Mirage is very deadly up close and so if you get to the merge the enemy will be in a world of hurt.

 

Sure its not perfect but even in the state it is today you can take on any Fighter in the game.

 

You just have to do it on your terms.

 

You cant just do a Head-on attack from 40 miles out at 20k+ Feet and expect to win against a F-15 etc.

 

Personally i use alot of terrain to get close and i try to sneak up on ppl or engage someone who is focused on something else.

 

If a enemy fighter goes head on with me i generally turn to make him chase then use terrain to pop up on him when he does not expect it.

 

If a enemy fighter is not engaging you push but if he is try to use terrain to get the edge on him instead of attempting a head on slugging match that you are unlikely to win against a enemy that has more missiles.

 

When flying an aircraft you need to adapt you tactics to that aircraft.

 

You cant fly all fighters the same and expect good results.

 

And if you use the Mirages strengths you will do good.

 

And you will do even better once all the problems get ironed out.

(as they are being fixed at a very rapid pace)

^this. And if the F-15 is limited to AIM-7s for long range, it is a good match... still better BVR performance, sure, but without AIM-120 the advantage is not so dramatic.

[TomCatMucDe]

M-2000C Pending Update Fix List

 

Zeus, could you please update the Mirage symbol on RWR? It's still UK when it's correctly shown on the A10! :)

[DonJosh]

again no update this week fot DCS World 2 Alpha from ED since 29.4.

 

Hello RAZBAM-Team,

 

it's possible to upload a separate update for the Mirage for DCS World 2?

I love to fly the mirage, but i only fly it on the NTTP Map.

So it would be nice to fly an updated mirage in DCS2.

 

or did you only update your mirage with the offical ED-update every friday?!

[Flagrum]

again no update this week fot DCS World 2 Alpha from ED since 29.4.

 

Hello RAZBAM-Team,

 

it's possible to upload a separate update for the Mirage for DCS World 2?

I love to fly the mirage, but i only fly it on the NTTP Map.

So it would be nice to fly an updated mirage in DCS2.

 

or did you only update your mirage with the offical ED-update every friday?!

They said somewhere else that they had not prepared anything for todays update because they want to finish some work first so that the next update is more complete.

 

And afaik, Razbam uploads their changes for all DCS:W versions (release, OB and OA) at once anyways. But then it is in ED's responsibility to decide and roll out the update for a specific variant. So we got today an update for DCS:W release branch and any changes for 2.0 that some 3rd party dev might have uploaded will be of no help right now anyways. That is, until 2.0 gets updated by ED.

[DonJosh]

They said somewhere else that they had not prepared anything for todays update because they want to finish some work first so that the next update is more complete.

 

And afaik, Razbam uploads their changes for all DCS:W versions (release, OB and OA) at once anyways. But then it is in ED's responsibility to decide and roll out the update for a specific variant. So we got today an update for DCS:W release branch and any changes for 2.0 that some 3rd party dev might have uploaded will be of no help right now anyways. That is, until 2.0 gets updated by ED.

 

thank you! so i must and will wait :music_whistling:

[jojo]

I don't really understand why so many ppl complain about the Mirage 2000s performance in MP...

 

I actually do very well with it against the FC3 fighters.

 

I avg at least 2 kills a sortie and my KD is usually around 3-1.

 

The Mirage is very deadly up close and so if you get to the merge the enemy will be in a world of hurt.

 

Sure its not perfect but even in the state it is today you can take on any Fighter in the game.

 

You just have to do it on your terms.

 

You cant just do a Head-on attack from 40 miles out at 20k+ Feet and expect to win against a F-15 etc.

 

Personally i use a lot of terrain to get close and i try to sneak up on ppl or engage someone who is focused on something else.

 

If a enemy fighter goes head on with me i generally turn to make him chase then use terrain to pop up on him when he does not expect it.

 

If a enemy fighter is not engaging you push but if he is try to use terrain to get the edge on him instead of attempting a head on slugging match that you are unlikely to win against a enemy that has more missiles.

 

When flying an aircraft you need to adapt you tactics to that aircraft.

 

You cant fly all fighters the same and expect good results.

 

And if you use the Mirages strengths you will do good.

 

And you will do even better once all the problems get ironed out.

(as they are being fixed at a very rapid pace)

 

I might be wrong, but the discussion seems to be a lot on 1 Vs 1 fights. (not especially you but in general)

 

If you want to fight Fox 1 BVR you have to play at least with a wingman, so a pair of Mirage 2000 can give a bad day to a lone F-15 or Su 27. The Mirage is especially good between FL200 to FL400, and you have plenty of chaffs to spoof R-27ER.

2 Vs 1 ratio (at least locally) is a realistic tactic for Fox 1 interceptors...

 

So even if it's effective, fighting low isn't the only option IMHO.

[OldE24]

I might be wrong, but the discussion seems to be a lot on 1 Vs 1 fights. (not especially you but in general)

 

If you want to fight Fox 1 BVR you have to play at least with a wingman, so a pair of Mirage 2000 can give a bad day to a lone F-15 or Su 27. The Mirage is especially good between FL200 to FL400, and you have plenty of chaffs to spoof R-27ER.

2 Vs 1 ratio (at least locally) is a realistic tactic for Fox 1 interceptors...

 

So even if it's effective, fighting low isn't the only option IMHO.

 

i dont know where you play but you show up high in a mirage on say the 104th or any F-15 server and your a dead man unless the guy is blind SA.

[Davee]

i dont know where you play but you show up high in a mirage on say the 104th or any F-15 server and your a dead man unless the guy is blind SA.

 

I did yesterday at FL350 against an Su-27. All BVR missiles on both sides spoofed and ended up low in a turning fight in the mountains. SU-27 could not shake me. Lots of fun. Nothing is guaranteed. :)

[jaguara5]

Perhaps razbam could also include the sounds for the throttle (idle clutch, afterburner etc. )

See the videos here

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMF5YHk6JeYTo7tC6pF2GzsdjWKi7FVRapcoElfm4jIbK1iihsu5wkQPtYdbeLvcA?key=SHZ3czJNYVNaRnRZOHBYcWFwN0NEZUFWQm40eVl3

 

Also, i don't know if it's possible to create for trackir users an (optional) head movement restriction for heavy g load's.

Edited May 28, 2016 by jaguara5

[WARJUNIOR]

Hey just wanted you to know we've got this fixed in development so you should see a permanent solution in the next update.

 

in Mods/M-2000C/ForceFeedback.lua just edit the gain values that you desire.

 

Ok thanks alot. You guys are awesome :thumbup:

[DonJosh]

is the canopyglass final? because i think the glass is to milky. at the release the mirage the glas was much better in my opinion

[Zeus67]

Perhaps razbam could also include the sounds for the throttle (idle clutch, afterburner etc. )

See the videos here

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMF5YHk6JeYTo7tC6pF2GzsdjWKi7FVRapcoElfm4jIbK1iihsu5wkQPtYdbeLvcA?key=SHZ3czJNYVNaRnRZOHBYcWFwN0NEZUFWQm40eVl3

 

Also, i don't know if it's possible to create for trackir users an (optional) head movement restriction for heavy g load's.

 

ED gave us a custom sound control, a sounder, for the M-2000C. So in our developer version, we are using our custom sounds. We are not happy how the sounds, well sound in-game at this time. Unfortunately we cannot edit and test the sounder directly. We make our edits and send them to ED and then ED send us an update in which then we test how it sounds now.

 

Why we need this back and forth between ED and us? Because the M-2000C sounder is an integral part of DCS so AI versions of the M-2000C can use the same sounds as the player version.

 

This indirect way of editing and testing makes the job difficult and slow. But we will get there eventually.

[Darkbrotherhood7]

ED gave us a custom sound control, a sounder, for the M-2000C. So in our developer version, we are using our custom sounds. We are not happy how the sounds, well sound in-game at this time. Unfortunately we cannot edit and test the sounder directly. We make our edits and send them to ED and then ED send us an update in which then we test how it sounds now.

 

Why we need this back and forth between ED and us? Because the M-2000C sounder is an integral part of DCS so AI versions of the M-2000C can use the same sounds as the player version.

 

This indirect way of editing and testing makes the job difficult and slow. But we will get there eventually.

 

Very nice!:thumbup:

[nomdeplume]

is the canopyglass final? because i think the glass is to milky. at the release the mirage the glas was much better in my opinion

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167567

 

We have this in our tray, but right now our modeler is busy with the Belougas and BAP-100 bombs.

[DonJosh]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167567

 

 

thank you!

[Wicaeed]

Are we ever going to get a definitive RWR symbology dictionary?

[Kartoffel]

Are we ever going to get a definitive RWR symbology dictionary?

 

You could ask for one! :music_whistling:

[Lockheed7]

Hello to all.

 

I`m not sure if this is the right thread to post but just download the Mirage 2000 and i have a problem to start the engine.

 

I follow all the procedures from manual but nothing happens when pressing the start button.

Throttle is defiantly full close pressing the small red button in cockpit but with no any success.

 

Any help will be fully appreciated.

 

Thank you.

[Sverre]

Have you made sure to close the fuel shut-off valve? It's located below the G/D pump switches. (see page 24 in the manual).

[OldE24]

Did you happen to ALSO check 12 threads down on the first page you know that one that is titled the exact question you have?

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166706

[TomCatMucDe]

Zeus, Captain Smiley,

 

could you please do a very tiny favor to me and to others who like to export their VTB on a second display.

 

in VTB_init.lua, could you write :

try_find_assigned_viewport("VTB","RIGHT_MFCD")

instead of

try_find_assigned_viewport("RIGHT_MFCD")

 

This will allow to use custom location of the VTB on the Monitor Setup Lua file, it doesnt have to necessarily be the Right MFD. Currently I have to re write this line after every update :(

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited May 30, 2016 by TomCatMucDe

[Zeus67]

Zeus, Captain Smiley,

 

could you please do a very tiny favor to me and to others who like to export their VTB on a second display.

 

in VTB_init.lua, could you write :

try_find_assigned_viewport("VTB","RIGHT_MFCD")

instead of

try_find_assigned_viewport("RIGHT_MFCD")

 

This will allow to use custom location of the VTB on the Monitor Setup Lua file, it doesnt have to necessarily be the Right MFD. Currently I have to re write this line after every update :(

 

Thanks in advance.

 

No problem. I'll do and test.